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Title: Coil Suspension
Post by: gems520 on February 09, 2004, 07:29:28 AM
I am thinking of purchasing a coil suspension from Rocky Road Outfitters.  I was wondering if anyone knew of another kit like this one?  also, does anyone have one of these kits on there sami? pros/cons?
Title: Re: Coil Suspension
Post by: ksa421 on February 09, 2004, 10:48:33 AM
http://shaffersoffroad.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=37_47&products_id=31

(http://campus.sou.edu/~shultzj/suzuki1.jpg)

Check that out, I heard it is a really good kit. Hope this helps




Jacob
Title: Re: Coil Suspension
Post by: TomKat on February 09, 2004, 12:24:33 PM
I know Zooky is running this setup on his Sammy with 35's and L/C axles. Maybe P/M him...
Title: Re: Coil Suspension
Post by: van7559 on February 09, 2004, 12:29:05 PM
hey did you trim the fenders at all on your red track? whatis the rim, and tire set up you run including backspacing? Your rig is just like I want mine to be not too wild, not too mild.
Title: Re: Coil Suspension
Post by: gems520 on February 10, 2004, 02:25:59 PM
Anyone have the RRO installed?
Title: Re: Coil Suspension
Post by: zooky on February 11, 2004, 10:03:30 AM
I have Shaffers kit, its like RRO's (kinda). Spent last summer working the bugs out. My last time out (october) it performed excellent but I rolled it and Im still putting it back together. I am doing some other mods which should keep me busy this summer working out those bugs. Take a look at Shaffers kit, its cheaper and "improved"
Title: Re: Coil Suspension
Post by: TomKat on February 11, 2004, 01:01:28 PM
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I have Shaffers kit, its like RRO's (kinda).  "
 Whoops, sorry Randy. I thought that was RR's kit ::)
Title: Re: Coil Suspension
Post by: NY_SIDEKICKER on February 14, 2004, 10:30:32 PM
THATS SOME NICE FLEXING  :o  THAT KIT LOOKS AFFORDABLE AND COMPLETE......HOW DOES IT HANDLE ON THE ROAD  ???     MATTY D.  8)
Title: Re: Coil Suspension
Post by: gems520 on February 16, 2004, 01:42:43 PM
Is anyone using the RRO setup?
Title: Re: Coil Suspension
Post by: shoyrtt on February 24, 2004, 05:06:13 PM
I have the Rocky Road coil setup on my 86. Glenn Wakefield (the owner) lists the item on E-bay and will allow you to add upgrades at discounted prices from the web site.
I am not at all a good welder so I took the kit to a professional. He reports the quality and craftmanship of the materials is excellent. His shop installs 4link and other high end offroad setups on full size trucks. His one gripe was the instructions were vague. RRO has a tech line but even the professional took more than the 2 days indicated in the instructions.
How does it perform? I dont know. It was just finished today ;Dand I still need to install the crawler gears and lockers. I hope to give you a report in a couple of weeks.
Title: Re: Coil Suspension
Post by: Wildweasel on February 25, 2004, 02:06:19 AM
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THATS SOME NICE FLEXING  :o  THAT KIT LOOKS AFFORDABLE AND COMPLETE......HOW DOES IT HANDLE ON THE ROAD  ???     MATTY D.  8)



With 175 pound springs and adjustable (or stiff shocks)
it should ride very nice and handle well as long as you pay attention to the castor angles and steering correction.
Title: Re: Coil Suspension
Post by: mrfuelish on February 25, 2004, 06:54:40 AM
Do you have to change from the stock steering box ? or just change the arm?
Title: Re: Coil Suspension
Post by: shoyrtt on March 01, 2004, 11:29:47 AM
Here is an update on the new coil suspension. The one thing that maybe a problem is the length of the front shocks. The professional who did the install thinks they are about 4 inches too long and will limit the amount of flex I should get.  If so, it should be a easy fix. You may want to order the kit w/o the shocks and install your own.
I have the 8" coils and the tire clearance with the 35s is good. I did need to trim some metal in the rear fender wells.
The steering is the stock setup (I bought the toyota power steering kit) using the stock box. I also have the pan hard steering which repaces the stock arm.  I will try to post some pictures if you want.
Title: Re: Coil Suspension
Post by: nc_zuk on March 01, 2004, 11:47:37 AM
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Is anyone using the RRO setup?

Yes I do in fact have the RRO kit on my Sammi. Here are some pics:

(http://photos.zuwharrie.com/users/nc_zuk/P1030011.JPG)

(http://photos.zuwharrie.com/users/nc_zuk/P1030012.JPG)

(http://photos.zuwharrie.com/users/nc_zuk/rocky_mount_Art_3.jpg)

(http://www.samurai4x.com/samurai4x035.jpg)

(http://www.samurai4x.com/samurai4x059.jpg)

(http://www.samurai4x.com/pa040009.jpg)

(http://photos.zuwharrie.com/users/nc_zuk/P1090014.JPG)

(http://photos.zuwharrie.com/users/nc_zuk/P1090024.JPG)

(http://photos.zuwharrie.com/users/nc_zuk/P1030028.JPG)
Title: Re: Coil Suspension
Post by: Kreg on March 01, 2004, 11:49:16 AM
Wow!

Sweet rig bud.

I like!  ;D
Title: Re: Coil Suspension
Post by: nc_zuk on March 01, 2004, 11:54:42 AM
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Wow!

Sweet rig bud.

I like!  ;D

Thanks!! I kinda like it too!!!  ;D


Armor by http://www.shrockworks.com (bumpers, gas tank skid, sliders)

Cage by http://www.rock4xfabrication.com

Lift by http://www.rocky-road.com
Title: Re: Coil Suspension
Post by: NY_SIDEKICKER on March 01, 2004, 12:13:07 PM
SWEET SAMMY ........NICE FLEXING......MATTY D. ;D
Title: Re: Coil Suspension
Post by: nc_zuk on March 01, 2004, 08:55:59 PM
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Anyone have the RRO installed?



So what questions do you have? Fire away!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Coil Suspension
Post by: shoyrtt on March 03, 2004, 11:44:51 AM
To  nc_zuk:

What did you end up doing with the driveshafts? Did you run into any problems with the front shocks being too long? Are you running a skid plate for the t-case? Did you powder coat all of the control arms orange to match the rig? Any problems at full flex with the tires rubbing the body?
It sure looks like you have done it all! I hope mine looks (and works) as good as yours.
Thanks again for the advise. :)
Title: Re: Coil Suspension
Post by: nc_zuk on March 03, 2004, 12:26:43 PM
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To  nc_zuk:

What did you end up doing with the driveshafts? Did you run into any problems with the front shocks being too long? Are you running a skid plate for the t-case? Did you powder coat all of the control arms orange to match the rig? Any problems at full flex with the tires rubbing the body?
It sure looks like you have done it all! I hope mine looks (and works) as good as yours.
Thanks again for the advise. :)


I have the RRO KAD drive shafts and have never had a problem.

The front shocks work perfectly and I have had no problems with them. Same with the rear. I did recently break a rear upper shock mount bolt but I put in a new mount today.

I used cans of spray paint to paint all my control arms. That way I can touch them up every couple of months. With powder coat you can't do that.

I don't have a t-case skid but am currently building my own t-case bucket. I hope to have it done soon.  ;)

As for rub, I do have minor rubbing on the front fenders. I was in a serious bind one day and the bogger grabbed the plastic fender flare and flung it across the trail. No biggie, I put it back on today. I am going to figure a way to prevent that from happening again though  :-/

Anything else?
Title: Re: Coil Suspension
Post by: gems520 on March 03, 2004, 10:38:57 PM
NC ZUK,

Love the ZUKI!!!

You can tell it ride the trail good so how does it do on the road?  
Title: Re: Coil Suspension
Post by: Ronzuki on March 03, 2004, 11:27:18 PM
NC_ZUK

You have the larger flange KAD shafts, right?  (your grille looks like 94-95) How did the flange holes come through? Mine looked like they attempted to file out the smaller bolt pattern to match the larger post 1988 pattern. I'm just curious because I wasn't real happy about having to open up the holes properly just so I could mount the shafts.

Also, are your frnt shock towers stock or aftermarket?

Thanks, Ron
Title: Re: Coil Suspension
Post by: nc_zuk on March 04, 2004, 01:04:59 AM
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NC ZUK,

Love the ZUKI!!!

You can tell it ride the trail good so how does it do on the road?  


Believe it or not it is my daily driver. I drive it 20 miles each way to and from work. It sees about 250-300 miles a week. It does pretty well on the road but it does have a bit of body roll. I have grown accostumed to it though and have learned how to drive the lean  ;D I enjoy driving it a LOT!!!  ;)
Title: Re: Coil Suspension
Post by: nc_zuk on March 04, 2004, 01:07:02 AM
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NC_ZUK

You have the larger flange KAD shafts, right?  (your grille looks like 94-95)

Also, are your frnt shock towers stock or aftermarket?

Thanks, Ron


Actually it is an 87. I just got a later model Grille since they are so sexy  ;) I have the small flanges and didn't have any issues.

I use the RRO front shock towers along with the longest DT shock made. It flexes well to say the least
Title: Re: Coil Suspension
Post by: nc_zuk on March 04, 2004, 01:07:10 AM
Oh, The lower front shock mounts are built into the control arms as part of the kit
Title: Re: Coil Suspension
Post by: Ronzuki on March 04, 2004, 03:33:29 AM
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Oh, The lower front shock mounts are built into the control arms as part of the kit


Yeah I could see how that is setup on RROs websight pics.  You're the poster boy for that picture of the red sami w/ the RRO coil cnversion then?
Title: Re: Coil Suspension
Post by: Speedracer7c on March 04, 2004, 04:50:39 AM
Kick ass Sammi!! Makes me want to think twice about the kick.....
Title: Re: Coil Suspension
Post by: nc_zuk on March 04, 2004, 05:47:37 AM
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Yeah I could see how that is setup on RROs websight pics.  You're the poster boy for that picture of the red sami w/ the RRO coil cnversion then?



LOL, yea that was the very first day i had ever driven that thing. It got disassembled about a week later and then it was painted orange. I actually bought it out of a Junkyard and it took me 18 months to build it as I was deployed all aver the world shooting bad guys  ;D
Title: Re: Coil Suspension
Post by: nc_zuk on March 05, 2004, 11:52:31 AM
shoyrtt,
Hey, you got any pics of your rig on 35's? I am upgrading axles and want to run a 35 but need to see some pics first. Can you help a brother out?

Art
Title: Re: Coil Suspension
Post by: zooky on March 05, 2004, 01:27:44 PM
here is mine with coils, toy axles and 35's ;D

(http://bbs.off-road.com/ubbthreads/download.php?Number=1272900)
Title: Re: Coil Suspension
Post by: HotRod on March 05, 2004, 01:32:57 PM
Sweet ride. Trade ya for a tracker. hee hee


Seeing all those sweet sammy makes my want to change my mind.










Title: Re: Coil Suspension
Post by: nc_zuk on March 05, 2004, 10:24:47 PM
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here is mine with coils, toy axles and 35's ;D

([url]http://bbs.off-road.com/ubbthreads/download.php?Number=1272900[/url])



ZOOKY, Holy crap! It lives!! Man I have been waiting a whole year to see that thing. Is it running yet? Man that looks sweet!! I need more pics or I am gonna pass out. PICS! PICS! PICS!
Title: Re: Coil Suspension
Post by: zooky on March 05, 2004, 10:35:23 PM
that was the before pic, here is the after ;D:

(http://bbs.off-road.com/ubbthreads/download.php?Number=1272988)
Title: Re: Coil Suspension
Post by: zooky on March 05, 2004, 10:38:51 PM
during:

(http://www.fototime.com/8282947FA05E1A3/standard.jpg)
Title: Re: Coil Suspension
Post by: zooky on March 05, 2004, 10:56:21 PM
Art, I dont have many digital pictures. I didnt get it out much due to a locker problem and P/S pump problems (both of which are fixed now). I'll be out more this year. Looks like you are getting some good wheeling in, I keep seeing pictures everywhere. Its running great. I just put in an automatic so I am sure I will have more bugs to work out. You will like the toyota axles and 35's. Right after my roll I went right up a waterfall that has been kicking my a$$ for 5 years.
Title: Re: Coil Suspension
Post by: lucszuk on March 06, 2004, 03:19:51 AM
nc_zuk do u work at izook cuzz i think i saw ur truck in the shrockworks issue on the rocker panel thingy's was it yours??
Title: Re: Coil Suspension
Post by: nc_zuk on March 06, 2004, 05:40:29 AM
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nc_zuk do u work at izook cuzz i think i saw ur truck in the shrockworks issue on the rocker panel thingy's was it yours??



Yep! That's my Zuk. I don't work there but I do write articles for them from time to time.
Title: Re: Coil Suspension
Post by: lucszuk on March 07, 2004, 08:36:00 AM
hmm i see i see can ihave it????? ill give ya a nice shiny quarter!!
Title: Re: Coil Suspension
Post by: Mikerpm4x4 on March 07, 2004, 11:32:35 AM
Zooky, that looked like it hurt. Were you able to rebuild it?

Mike
Title: Re: Coil Suspension
Post by: friar on March 09, 2004, 05:17:27 AM
Had myself the 8" Kit from RRO. Since the car allready had been fitted with a 3" bodylift (to be removed soon) and 7.50/16 tyres, it was discribed as "difficult to climb in, dangerous to get off, hard to drive needs hands a headturner best next to a UFO.

It has taken part in a trial here in Athens Greece but withdrawn half way after a ruling disagreement.

No extreme photos yet, but here are some anyway
(http://www.to4x4.gr/gallery/albums/agones4x4/16Triar_1.jpg)

(http://www.to4x4.gr/gallery/albums/ourcars/PICT0888.sized.jpg)
Title: Re: Coil Suspension
Post by: zooky on March 09, 2004, 08:20:32 AM
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Zooky, that looked like it hurt. Were you able to rebuild it?

Mike

Yup, I am putting the finishing touches on it now. I also added a few more things while I was at it. It held up pretty good to the roll, I drove it the rest of the day and conqured a waterfall what kicked my butt for years. That cheered me up from the roll! I kinda like my new dents, they add character, I would get razzed because it was too clean (I would wax it before a run to keep mud from sticking and rusting it). Now it looks like I wheel it. Just waiting on a cage from Rockrat then its done
Title: Re: Coil Suspension
Post by: NY_SIDEKICKER on March 10, 2004, 01:16:52 PM
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ZOOKY, Holy crap! It lives!! Man I have been waiting a whole year to see that thing. Is it running yet? Man that looks sweet!! I need more pics or I am gonna pass out. PICS! PICS! PICS!

SWEET TRUCK
Title: Re: Coil Suspension
Post by: NY_SIDEKICKER on March 10, 2004, 01:17:18 PM
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that was the before pic, here is the after ;D:

([url]http://bbs.off-road.com/ubbthreads/download.php?Number=1272988[/url])

OUCH...........
Title: Re: Coil Suspension
Post by: NY_SIDEKICKER on March 10, 2004, 01:18:20 PM
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Had myself the 8" Kit from RRO. Since the car allready had been fitted with a 3" bodylift (to be removed soon) and 7.50/16 tyres, it was discribed as "difficult to climb in, dangerous to get off, hard to drive needs hands a headturner best next to a UFO.

It has taken part in a trial here in Athens Greece but withdrawn half way after a ruling disagreement.

No extreme photos yet, but here are some anyway
([url]http://www.to4x4.gr/gallery/albums/agones4x4/16Triar_1.jpg[/url])

([url]http://www.to4x4.gr/gallery/albums/ourcars/PICT0888.sized.jpg[/url])

NICE SAMMY WELCOME ABOARD........
Title: Re: Coil Suspension
Post by: shoyrtt on March 13, 2004, 05:23:22 PM
I finally figured out (with a lot of help :-[) how to post pictures. Here goes (with more to come)(http:// http://members.cardomain.com/shoyrtt )
Title: Re: Coil Suspension
Post by: shoyrtt on March 13, 2004, 05:31:43 PM
Ok Ok Ok. I need more help. The picture of my Sami is at cardomain.com under the username shoyrtt. Maybe someday I will figure it out. ???
Title: Re: Coil Suspension
Post by: shoyrtt on March 13, 2004, 05:55:21 PM
Thanks to NY-Sidekicker (he convinced me not to jump) here it is (it better work >:() (http://  http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/10/web/550000-550999/550431_1.jpg )
Title: Re: Coil Suspension
Post by: nc_zuk on March 14, 2004, 12:57:35 AM
shoyrtt

Hey, do you have a body lift on that thing?
Title: Re: Coil Suspension
Post by: shoyrtt on March 14, 2004, 06:50:43 PM
NC_ZUK:
All suspension my friend! A couple of things may make it look big. I removed the fender flares and trimmed the sheet metal that held the flares. A little more trimming at the bottom of the rear openings. Painted it black. The 35s are on 15x8 wheels with a 2" backspace. Here is a better picture (my twin daredevils are inspecting the lift!) (http://   http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/10/web/550000-550999/550431_2.jpg )  
Title: Re: Coil Suspension
Post by: nc_zuk on March 15, 2004, 12:07:34 AM
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NC_ZUK:
All suspension my friend! A couple of things may make it look big. I removed the fender flares and trimmed the sheet metal that held the flares. A little more trimming at the bottom of the rear openings. Painted it black. The 35s are on 15x8 wheels with a 2" backspace. Here is a better picture (my twin daredevils are inspecting the lift!) (http://   [url]http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/10/web/550000-550999/550431_2.jpg[/url] )  


Cool! I am a big fan of the "virtual" lift. I really want to add some clearance to mine and not grow bigger so I can stuff some 35 Baja Claws under there  ;D

Here is a pic of a friend of mines stock sammi spring SPOA on 38's. Serious virtual lift!! This thing is so awesome. When I drive behind him I just drool over his ground clearance. The thing is that it actually sits 2 inchs lower than mine does with 33's  >:(

(http://photos.zuwharrie.com/users/nc_zuk/PA180013.JPG)
(http://photos.zuwharrie.com/users/nc_zuk/PA180012.JPG)
(http://photos.zuwharrie.com/users/nc_zuk/PA180014.JPG)
Title: Re: Coil Suspension
Post by: NY_SIDEKICKER on March 18, 2004, 11:34:10 AM
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NC_ZUK:
All suspension my friend! A couple of things may make it look big. I removed the fender flares and trimmed the sheet metal that held the flares. A little more trimming at the bottom of the rear openings. Painted it black. The 35s are on 15x8 wheels with a 2" backspace. Here is a better picture (my twin daredevils are inspecting the lift!) (http://   [url]http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/10/web/550000-550999/550431_2.jpg[/url] )  

LOOKS GREAT ...GLAD YOU GOT IT WORKING ..I KNOW IT TOOK ME A LONG WHILE TO FIGURE IT OUT  ;D
Title: Re: Coil Suspension
Post by: friar on April 11, 2004, 07:03:11 PM
Hairy moment at the Evros Adventure Trophy
The ground fell off under our wheels
Managed to rescue it with no damage.
Must backspace them wheels urgently!!!


(http://www.to4x4.gr/gallery/albums/album09/Evros_Trophy_90.jpg)


(http://www.to4x4.gr/gallery/albums/album09/Evros_Trophy_91.jpg)


(http://www.to4x4.gr/gallery/albums/album09/Evros_Trophy_95.jpg)
Title: Re: Coil Suspension
Post by: HotRod on April 12, 2004, 12:02:06 PM
Atlest its small enough to hold up by hand. ;D
Title: Re: Coil Suspension
Post by: NY_SIDEKICKER on April 12, 2004, 03:31:48 PM
YA DIDN'T CHANGE THE COLOR OF YOUR SHORTS DID YA  ::)
Title: Re: Coil Suspension
Post by: friar on April 13, 2004, 02:04:42 AM
Actually if blood smelt of sewer I was definetely wounded... ;D
Here is a mild one from same event .
We have another trial, this time, this weekend and still haven't fixed a broken rear top shock mount.

(http://www.to4x4.gr/gallery/albums/album09/Image069.sized.jpg)

DIVE! DIVE! DIVE!!! :o

(http://www.to4x4.gr/gallery/albums/album09/Evros_Trophy_10.jpg)


(http://www.to4x4.gr/gallery/albums/album09/Evros_Trophy_12.jpg)
Title: Re: Coil Suspension
Post by: NY_SIDEKICKER on April 14, 2004, 11:13:31 AM
 ;D