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ZUKIWORLD Model Specific Suzuki Forum => Suzuki Grand Vitara, Vitara, Chevy Tracker (Gen. 2 Platform) 1999-2005 => Topic started by: ShapeShifter on July 08, 2012, 05:25:55 PM
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Just plain awesome.
(http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/9338/webimg0175.jpg)
My Lockright does not make ANY noise. It is as if it is a spool. It does not slip at all, ever, in any condition and I am not sure why. So off road it is awesome. On road is fine if you don't mind the tires squealing as you make sharp right turns.
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Nice!
Cool pic too. 8)
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Nice!
Cool pic too. 8)
Thanks! I wish I had taken more pictures because we did some serious rock crawling. All you really need is a 2.5" lift, 29" tires, a locker, and some armor and you can go most anywhere. I dont do mud, though.
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I haven't seen, but do you have an auto? Most folks say that with a lockrite in an auto you don't hardly feel it, because you don't get the driveline movement you'd have with a manual.
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Yep, its an auto. I got AC too. I like to crawl in luxury..... ;)
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They are a blast and add a whole new dimension to driving around off road with these trucklets. I would never use the word "unstopable" because nothing is, but they are definitely much more capable with a locker or two.
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do they make spools for our rigs?
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do they make spools for our rigs?
Rocky Road sells one for $99. Only available up to 2000 year model though.
I found out that mine actually is a 2000, though it is registered as a 2001.
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Am I the only one perturbed by reports of the locker "not slipping, ever"?
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Not perturbed but concerned, sounds from his first post that it is not unlocking and is basically acting like a spool.
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huh, 2000 and up is different? i dint know that at all. id tought it would be the same all the way up to 2004
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Ian has a great parts cross references to prove/dis-prove actual differences. Personally, I still believe the manufacturers and venders are behind on their vehicle application references for their parts, particularly in the locker references.
I am currently running a Richmond Gear 1512-LR in my 2002 Tracker with a 2001 Tracker rear diff with the 1512-LR installed in it. I have over 10K miles plus on it since install. No problems and it works like a charm. If I had relied on the application charts... I wouldn't have a Lock Right in my Tracker right now.
Check these year and vehicle applications for Lock Right examples:
http://www.4wheelparts.com/Drivetrain-Differentials/Suzuki-6-9in-Lock-Right-Locker.aspx?t_c=12&t_s=237&t_pt=101501&t_pl=6748&t_pn=PTX1512-LR (http://www.4wheelparts.com/Drivetrain-Differentials/Suzuki-6-9in-Lock-Right-Locker.aspx?t_c=12&t_s=237&t_pt=101501&t_pl=6748&t_pn=PTX1512-LR)
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/PWT-1512-LR/ (http://www.summitracing.com/parts/PWT-1512-LR/)
http://paceperformance.com/i-6128109-lock-right-locker-powertrax-1512-lr.html (http://paceperformance.com/i-6128109-lock-right-locker-powertrax-1512-lr.html)
http://www.richmondgear.com/powertrax/suzukilr.pdf (http://www.richmondgear.com/powertrax/suzukilr.pdf)
http://www.catalograck.com/ImgVD/PWT/1000706MID.pdf (http://www.catalograck.com/ImgVD/PWT/1000706MID.pdf)
Also, our forum venders beat almost all the "BIG" aftermarket vender's pricing as well.
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And yes the Lock Right SHOULD be ratcheting in corners under no power (according to Richmond Gear)... but I don't personally have experience with a 2-door truck with an automatic tranny.
It MAY be that the truck is so much lighter and that the auto tranny keeps enough pressure on his drive train that his Lock Right doesn't lose enough torque in the drive train that it will free ratchet in turns. It may also be a problem with the actual install. Maybe the pins and springs were crossed up during the install. Maybe a shim issue. I don't know. Not enough info.
I do know when I installed mine I attempted to lean towards retaining as tight tolerance of the stock diff backlash as I could (I think the spec tolerance was between .008 in to .015 in) because I knew the Lock Right was going to add to the "play" in the drive shaft/axle/wheel movement. A very tiny movement at the diff can translate into inches out at the tires. I think mine was installed with around .010 to .012 back lash. At any rate, it does free ratchet and the diff operates without excessive heat or any gear noise while driving down the road.
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Not perturbed but concerned, sounds from his first post that it is not unlocking and is basically acting like a spool.
Perturbed/concerned - same difference - the back of these trucks are light and can be wayward in slippery conditions, without any assistance from "traction aids" ;)
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I'm concerned about it not ratcheting. My truck (1999 5sp Grand Vitara) with lockright has never ratcheted/differentiated correctly. I bought the entire 3rd member (Sidekick with 5.13 gears) from Trail Tough with locker pre-installed, and I just had a guy take it apart and reinstall it 3 times after an axle break (this guy does lockrights all the time).....and it CANNOT be made right. For some reason, it will ratchet on the bench, but acts like a spool when installed in the truck.
Be aware that this can eventually lead to axle failure. For my truck, it took several years. Eventually, the innermost 1 1/2 inches broke off on the driver side axle. Also, all of the pins of the locker broke and eventually scarred the diff after a big bang while backing up in a Lowes parking lot. Tire wear gets pretty excessive when it doesn't unlock. I was going through rear tires extremely fast. There appears to be no fix for this. If ANYBODY has a lockright functioning correctly in a Vitara, I would love to know what third member was used (exact year and model please), and what year Vitara/GV/Tracker/etc. it is in. Also, which part number for the locker. This has been a PITA for me. Diff work in these trucks is expensive and time consuming....
That said, I wish you all the best, and enjoy your newfound extreme traction....
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The Richmond Gear instructions don't direct you to do this and I can't quantify/prove how important it is... but after the Lock Right install I left my truck's rear suspension (axle) elevated, started my truck and let the rear axle "drive" for about 5 minutes (with no load) in 1st gear to allow the gear oil to totally permeate the entire assembly to ensure all the surfaces were coated with gear oil BEFORE I took it out for an actual test drive. The instructions direct you to coat the thrust washers, pin sockets and surfaces with gear grease to 'protect it during initial operation' UNTIL the gear oil gets inside to the parts to lube them... but it just makes sense (to me) to "break in" the lube thoroughly before putting full operating pressure on the diff assembly. Gear oil is like molasses, even on a hot day and the cross pins and thrust washers are buried inside an enclosed differential case with pretty tight tolerances. All else being equal, I thought i would mention this.