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ZUKIWORLD Discussion Forum => Technical Discussion - Beginner / Repair => Topic started by: SIDEKICK65 on September 21, 2012, 12:04:25 AM

Title: What can i do for more power
Post by: SIDEKICK65 on September 21, 2012, 12:04:25 AM
I have a 98 sidekick on 33" bfg's.I was going to put a header and 2" exhaust on it.What else can i do for a little more power.It's my daily driver.the motor has maybe 10k on a rebuild.
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Post by: bentparts on September 22, 2012, 04:12:31 AM
Whats your trans and gearing situation?
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Post by: SIDEKICK65 on September 22, 2012, 11:31:02 AM
5 spd with 5;13.i think im going to buy the undertaker to help my gearing out.
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Post by: Flatlander on September 22, 2012, 04:06:51 PM
K & N cold air filter kit works well on mine.  and all those other mods youve been told about too
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Post by: SIDEKICK65 on September 22, 2012, 04:39:55 PM
I been thinking about just putting a toyota 2.7 motor in it.i just gotta find a write up if some one else has done one already.-
Title: Re: What can i do for more power
Post by: bentparts on September 23, 2012, 05:41:19 AM
Get a set of the 5.63 gears and you'll notice a real difference. Your tires are killin your power. If you could find the 5.83's ( unlikely) that would be better, but they're even rarer than the 5.63's now. There are a couple of sets for sale in the Classifieds here. That would help quite a bit.
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Post by: talonxracer on September 23, 2012, 06:28:33 AM
I would rather put the 1000+$ spent on used R&P's, towards a NEW "undertaker" and be able to run far stronger R&P's.
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Post by: BRD HNTR on September 23, 2012, 07:04:03 AM
I been thinking about just putting a toyota 2.7 motor in it.i just gotta find a write up if some one else has done one already.-
I have installed a 2.7 l Suzuki V6 in my 93 2door.  It is a tight squeeze and combining the wiring systems takes wiring knowledge.   I would recommend a 2.0 or 2.3 l 4 cylinder for an easier swap for the power gained.  You can check out my build thread but I can't link to it, I am on my phone.
If you have a two door, the driveling angle may be too much with the undertaker.
Title: Re: What can i do for more power
Post by: SIDEKICK65 on September 25, 2012, 02:08:24 PM
Does any one sell and adapter for my sidekick tranny to a toyota 22r or toyota 2.7 motor.Im just thinking about putting a toyota motor in it.
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Post by: Drone637 on September 25, 2012, 02:24:34 PM
Give Trail Tough a call, they sell a 1.6l to Toyota adapter, maybe you could hook it up in reverse.

http://www.trailtough.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=214&category_id=13&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=53 (http://www.trailtough.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=214&category_id=13&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=53)

In my view there isn't much reason to do a partial swap.  The 22r is 95hp, 130lb torque.  The 1.6l 8v is 85hp, 95lb torque, the 16v is 95hp, 99lb torque.  Not much of a gain for the extra weight your adding and you don't even get the advantage of running the Toyota t-case/transmission setup.  For the V6 I would want the larger transmission as well to handle the extra power, along with new axles. 
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Post by: SIDEKICK65 on September 25, 2012, 09:52:41 PM
I think i should just put the toyota 2.7 4-cyl in my sidekick.
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Post by: biker on September 26, 2012, 06:53:55 AM
I'm surprised no one has said it but if you are willing to go to all the trouble of swapping in a totally different motor why not just install a turbo and keep your fresh motor and enjoy a nice kick in the pants power boost. Both Bentparts and I have done it with great success as well as others. Food for thought
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Post by: SIDEKICK65 on September 26, 2012, 01:37:09 PM
Do they sell a bolt on kit?
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Post by: bentparts on September 26, 2012, 09:07:07 PM
I think you can buy a manifold now, but no kits I know of.
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Post by: biker on September 27, 2012, 06:31:25 AM
Check on ebay for the manifold, the rest is easy to piece together
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Post by: chadstichter on September 27, 2012, 04:43:29 PM
how many punds of boost are you guys running. does the turbo help alot? oh and what kind of milage are you getting with it?
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Post by: biker on September 27, 2012, 06:28:29 PM
I think this is the one I used http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Turbo-Exhaust-Manifold-SUZUKI-Solio-Swift-G13-T25-Flang-W-G-Hole-/130678036730?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item1e6d0498fa#ht_1045wt_952 (http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Turbo-Exhaust-Manifold-SUZUKI-Solio-Swift-G13-T25-Flang-W-G-Hole-/130678036730?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item1e6d0498fa#ht_1045wt_952)
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Post by: biker on September 27, 2012, 06:33:01 PM
If my guage is correct I'm running up to 9lbs if I keep my foot in it. I need to find a 7 lb spring for it so it doesn't get away from me. As for mileage it doesn't seem to have changed much if I keep my foot out of the turbo, but that's kinda hard to do for a big kid like me >:D :laugh:
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Post by: chadstichter on September 27, 2012, 08:13:25 PM
yeah i bet i looked at your build it would be hard especially with 36s haha
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Post by: bentparts on September 28, 2012, 05:13:48 AM
My turbo is limited to 6/7 lbs and I run it on a COMPLETELY stock engine, other than bigger injectors and alc/h20 injection. I'm running 32x11.5 BFG AT KO's through an auto trans with 5.12 final gearing. Pulls like a raped ape on boost, never a lack of power, and I can still average around 22/23 mpg, but I have to use premium. Now that it's all said and done there has been enough development of turbo setups for the 16V that knowledge of what and how is readily available. I built my own manifold and experimented with parts until I got a reliable setup. Now you can use our experience to almost bolt one together. IMO, you would still need to correct your final gearing though, either via the Undertaker or a couple of diff sets. If you make enough power to turn those 33's without the proper gearing, your probably making enough power to start breaking things. jmho.