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ZUKIWORLD Discussion Forum => Suzuki 4x4 Forum => Topic started by: crazyeight on February 26, 2004, 03:47:35 AM
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I need wheels for my XL7. I would like to fill in the wheel wells a little. What wheel/tire sizes will fit? Also, I can't find many aftermarket wheels. Any recommendations? Thanks.
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225/70/16 will work. Will also give a much bigger choice of tires to pick from. Also do you plan on lifting it. If so you may want to wait till after. . As for a recommendation need more info. off-road, snow.......ect
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Thanks, Blacknight. No, I won't be lifting. I'm not having a problem finding tires. I can't find wheels that are 5x139.7 with +25 offset or wheels that are advertised to fit an XL7. Is that you black XL7? Are those factory alloys?
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Thanks, Blacknight.  No, I won't be lifting.  I'm not having a problem finding tires.  I can't find wheels that are 5x139.7 with +25 offset or wheels that are advertised to  fit an XL7.  Is that you black XL7?  Are those factory alloys?
Oh, this is too funny.
Quick, convert 139.7 mm to inches...
Done yet?
Hurry up!
It's EXACTLY 5.5 inches!
The XL-7 runs 5 on 5.5 just like the rest of our rigs.
::) :o
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Boobzooki - I think everyone knows 139.7 and 5.5 are the same. I'm glad you found it funny. Do you have any info to help or do you just have nothing better to do?
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Hey guys, the 99+ is still 5x5.5 BUT the offset changed!
I'm have the same problem finding rims that will meet all the criteria for my 99 Tracker Conv. Rims that will fit on an old style Trackick won't fit on a 99+. The tire places around me tried a bunch of ones they thought might fit but no winners.(That I liked anyways)
Offset of +25 to (+40 I think)
Centerbore of 108
Spokes that are bent towards the outside of the car to clear the calipers.
I want 17's also but don't want an off-road style rim and also not chrome.
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The rims are 16x7 with JJ back spaceing what ever JJ is ???
The real issue is the front and clearing the brakes. You could put 15's on the back it just that dam front. You could go up to 17's or try emailing calmini and see where they got their rims from and what size the "show" GV and Xl-7 that they did are.
George
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Is that you black XL7? Are those factory alloys?
Yup thats me and yes they are factory rims.
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This topic was up a month or two ago and Im pretty sure that it ended up like this...
Aftermarket wheels rub on the outside of the caliper. A 1 inch wheelspacer will fix that but then the offset is way off.
Mike
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The rims are 16x7 with JJ back spaceing what ever JJ is ???
The real issue is the front and clearing the brakes.  You could put 15's on the back it just that dam front.  You could go up to 17's  or try emailing calmini and see where they got their rims from and what size  the "show" GV and Xl-7 that they did are.
George
The JJ is the Flange code, from what I'm told. The Vit is a J and the GV is a JJ. This defines the curve and shape of the flange. If you look at the GV, the flange is really deep compare to say that of the Sammy or Vit. There are some aftermarket alloys that will fit, but no steel.
Spare GV steel rims is the best solution. They pop up on Ebay now and then for cheap.
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My 2dr Tracker has 15x5.5 JJ stock steel rims with 205/75 tires.  :'( Wish they where atleast 15x6 or 15x8 would be great! I wanted wider tires but could only go up to 215's so it's not even worth it.
I want 17x8's!!!  >:( So I could get some nice 235's or 255's
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My 2dr Tracker has 15x5.5 JJ stock steel rims with 205/75 tires.   >:( So I could get some nice 235's or 255's
I had a tin top with 31x10.50's on stock 5.5" wide Sammy rims. They can fit, and little chance the bead with pop when aired down.
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I had a tin top with 31x10.50's on stock 5.5" wide Sammy rims. They can fit, and little chance the bead with pop when aired down.
How could a 10.50" wide tire fit on a 5.5" rim? Ain't it to big? I was told not to go over 215 maybe not even that.
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You can put almost any size tire on any size rim. Might not be easy though. I had 235's on my stock rims and they worked great.
Looked nice also.
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Does anyone have brand/model names of aftermarket rims that fit an XL7?
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Yankee Tim - you say some aftermarket alloys will fit over the calipers. Do you have specific brands/models? Thanks.
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Blacknight - nice XL7. Does it have 225/70-16's? Is it lifted? If not, do you have any rubbing or problems with spacing when compressed?
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Blacknight - nice XL7. Does it have 225/70-16's? Is it lifted? If not, do you have any rubbing or problems with spacing when compressed?
Yup it lifted and Im running 225/75/16 for now ::) but 225/70/16 will fit stock with no rubbing.
George
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Don't know which makes. I think Weld had one, and and AR. I've seen aftermarket alloys on other Geevs and XLs on the street, and on ebay. They are out there.
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Blacknight - nice XL7.  Does it have 225/70-16's?  Is it lifted?  If not, do you have any rubbing or problems with spacing when compressed?
In my webshots, I've got pics of my X with 225/70's on stock suspension. Compressed and drooped in a couple.
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Does anyone have brand/model names of aftermarket rims that fit an XL7?
American Racing:
Teron
Dip:
D05
D21
there are more but I'm not too sure what you're looking for. I put A/R Teron 20x8.5s on my Tracker and they look pimp.
check out http://www.rimstop.com/softwheels.asp (takes a little bit to load) and take a look at what looks good onyour car. They mark the wheels that will fit.
If you are going to call your shop here is the info they need to verify with the vendor:
5 on 5.5" bolt pattern
8.5" max rim width
4.5" or more backside clearance (not sure what the +/- offset is, but this number is easier for them to work with)
~2" for the hub (4x4)
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has anyone tried sidekick sport wheels they are 16" can't remember the width maybe 6 or 7 inches
just a thought.
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Phu - Isn't the 4.5" backside for a Vitara/Tracker?
From what I gather the offset on Vitara/Trackers is about 25 mm and offset for GV/XL7 is 0. Anyone, is this right?
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Phu - Isn't the 4.5" backside for a Vitara/Tracker? ÂÂ
From what I gather the offset on Vitara/Trackers is about 25 mm and offset for GV/XL7 is 0.  Anyone, is this right?
Yeah, that's for the Tracker/Vitara. I'm not sure what clearance is needed for the XL-7 but you could easily call any tire company (America's tire, Big-O, Winston Tires, etc) and they'll tell you. If they don't then they suck and I wouldn't go back to them... :D
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Phu - Isn't the 4.5" backside for a Vitara/Tracker? ÂÂ
From what I gather the offset on Vitara/Trackers is about 25 mm and offset for GV/XL7 is 0.  Anyone, is this right?
I have an aluminum XL7 rim in the garage. I'll measure it tonight.
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I have an aluminum XL7 rim in the garage. I'll measure it tonight.
I used an English tape measure. The bs of the 16x7 XL7 aluminum wheel measures 4.25". The 'JJ' measures ~5.875". See pics in X Tech album.
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Any updates on sources for aftermarket rims for a 2003 XL7? I would like a set in the spring to put the original Bridgestone Duellers on. Currently running Pirrelli Winter Carvers on the steel rims that came stock.
I am located in Toronto.
Thanks,
Chris
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Holy thread archaeology batman! Dug this one up from the past, didn't we?
Figure out your backspacing, then go look around. You need at least a 16" wheel to clear the front brake calipers and a 4" centerhole width to clear the front hub assembly. Your factory wheels are 7" wide so that would be a good starting point. Bolt pattern is 5x5.5". You should have at least 4" of backspacing unless you want the tires to stick out from under the truck a lot. I don't like that as you end up with a lot of crap thrown up onto the sides of the truck as soon as it rains.
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I guess i could chime in and help. Seeing how i work for american racing. The xl7s and grand vitras are a hard fitment not just cause of offset but because of center bore. They use what in the industry is a stander 4.25 bore or 1/2 ton bore. common on bronco jeeps dodge ect. Now they also use a mid to high offset. Seeing how the only vehicle other then suzuki to use a 5x5.5 is a new dodge and they require the same offset and caliper clearance issues. BUt the problem is most of those wheels are hub centric to dodge and won't fit on the suzuki hub. So what a common fix is to have the wheel professionaly bored to fit the hub and use a standerd 4.25 cap or if its a coverd lugs use that cap. And yes a sidekick sport does have the same offset but won't work because of cailper issues in front. Offset by the way is determined by were the mounting pad sits. if it sits in middle of the wheel it has a zero offset if its moved outboard it has a postive and in board a negtive.
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Thanks for the quick responses AJMBLAZER and Suzuki1.8. Quite impressive, considering the thread has been asleep for a year and a half. I will continue looking for aftermarket rims, that conform to the additional info you provided.
Thanks again.