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Title: 1983 Samurai
Post by: brace on February 23, 2004, 05:00:40 AM
I just warned someone who is selling a 1983 SJ410 that they were not selling a Samurai and they said it's on the title so it must be true.  
Title: Re: 1983 Samurai
Post by: NJONES on February 23, 2004, 09:11:55 AM
this might sound stupid, but how can you tell the difference? ???

Thanks,
Nathan
Title: Re: 1983 Samurai
Post by: zooky on February 23, 2004, 10:40:15 AM
they didnt make Samurais in '83, just the 410's
Title: Re: 1983 Samurai
Post by: NJONES on February 23, 2004, 10:42:53 AM
Did they make a SJ410 in '88?
Title: Re: 1983 Samurai
Post by: brace on February 23, 2004, 10:24:18 PM
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this might sound stupid, but how can you tell the difference? ???

After 85 they made the SJ413; in the States the Samurai was imported not the SJ's.
The big difference in the Samurai and the SJ410 is that the SJ410 has a 1.0 ltr engine instead of the 1.3 ltr.  Also, the SJ410 has a more desirable grill and SJ410 body tags if not removed.  Axle widths are shorter on the SJ's as well.  A lot of aftermarket parts for the Samurai don't fit the SJ410.   >:(
Title: Re: 1983 Samurai
Post by: ebewley on February 24, 2004, 12:56:40 AM
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I just warned someone who is selling a 1983 SJ410 that they were not selling a Samurai and they said it's on the title so it must be true.  


There is quite a bit of model information at our TECH SPEC section: http://www.zukiworld.com/main_departments_techspecs.htm

Good Luck, Eric
Title: Re: 1983 Samurai
Post by: TinTopper on March 05, 2004, 08:51:03 AM
Yes, some SJ410s are tagged as samurais. THis has been discussed on other forums, insurance companies and state governments and all that often tag them as Samurais because that is the "closest relation" that was imported or some other big-phooey like that. Just like how my Samurai is really tagged as an SJ413, and says samurai no where on the title.
Title: Re: 1983 Samurai
Post by: idaholwb on March 05, 2004, 01:45:38 PM
 Yes the SJ410 was made in 88, but not in North America. In the Santana plant in Spain made them into the 90s next to the SJ413/Samurai. In Canada, they had an SJ413 that was a narrow track Samurai. It had all the features of a sammy, but with SJ410 style axle width. Engine, tranny, diffs, springs, body, and most of the frame was identical to the sammy, with the exception of the spring location being under the frame instead of outboard. It's along the same lines as the sammy still being in existance as we know them here.....in South America, the Chevrolet Samurai! Available in both wheelbases, hard and soft top versions, gas and diesel, manual and automatic.
Pretty cool huh?
Title: Re: 1983 Samurai
Post by: Maiden Hell on March 05, 2004, 02:37:30 PM
People still think Sidekicks are Samurais around my neck of the woods...  ::)