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Title: 5.83:1 ring and pinion Q's
Post by: ksa421 on March 02, 2004, 06:04:10 PM

I have heard that the 5.83 r&p are not very strong and that you should really try and stay away from them. THe reason behing this is the teeth on them are really small and break easily? Has anyone had this problem or toi anyone who is running them what do you think about them? Also is Calmini the only company that makes lower gear sets for the Sidekicks? Thanks




Jacob

Title: Re: 5.83:1 ring and pinion Q's
Post by: hcgalvin on March 02, 2004, 08:22:41 PM

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I have heard that the 5.83 r&p are not very strong and that you should really try and stay away from them. THe reason behing this is the teeth on them are really small and break easily? Has anyone had this problem or toi anyone who is running them what do you think about them? Also is Calmini the only company that makes lower gear sets for the Sidekicks? Thanks




Jacob

Know what? That's what Brent tells me... but I had absolutely NO problems with mine, as a matter of fact I consider them stronger, and I haven't heard in any forum about theirs breaking.

Maybe somebody else can share the light on this?

Title: Re: 5.83:1 ring and pinion Q's
Post by: Zukipilot on March 02, 2004, 09:26:41 PM

No troubles out of mine yet :)
Zig

Title: Re: 5.83:1 ring and pinion Q's
Post by: Rhinoman on March 02, 2004, 10:39:29 PM

Mine are still in the boxes which have Richmond Gears printed on them.

Title: Re: 5.83:1 ring and pinion Q's
Post by: Speedracer7c on March 03, 2004, 12:16:47 AM

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Mine are still in the boxes which have Richmond Gears printed on them.

Richmond makes the gears for Calmini

Title: Re: 5.83:1 ring and pinion Q's
Post by: Bobzooki on March 03, 2004, 04:34:05 AM

I have absolutely no complaints about mine.

Title: Re: 5.83:1 ring and pinion Q's
Post by: lucszuk on March 03, 2004, 09:14:59 AM

im getting some soon too.... hard to turn 34 with stock gears (ps no i never ended up getting 4:62 gears)

Title: Re: 5.83:1 ring and pinion Q's
Post by: HotRod on March 03, 2004, 10:04:09 AM

I'm happy with mine.

Title: Re: 5.83:1 ring and pinion Q's
Post by: TomKat on March 03, 2004, 10:50:55 AM

It is true the less teeth=a weaker gearset. But with the low power output of a Zuk engine it isn't bad. Proper tooth contact and ring gear backlash is crucial to a long gearset life. Improper installation is the culprit of failures, 99 times out of 100.

Title: Re: 5.83:1 ring and pinion Q's
Post by: Fredo on March 03, 2004, 12:59:30 PM

I have three questions...

1-Dou you can fit 5.83:1 gears in a gv or xl-7 steel 3rd member,with an locker(like ARB's)?

2-What is better, gv or xl-7 3rd member?

3-Do you can fit 5.83:1 gears in a 99 and up GV rear diff?

Thanx

Fredo

Title: Re: 5.83:1 ring and pinion Q's
Post by: Zukipilot on March 03, 2004, 09:12:02 PM

1- Yes, but you may need new side gears (see 2 )

2-Check out Kregs thread on the housings. I just posted links there to articles that will tell you the differences.

3- Beats me, anyone ???

Title: Re: 5.83:1 ring and pinion Q's
Post by: Fredo on March 03, 2004, 10:27:33 PM

Thank you very much!

Fredo

Title: Re: 5.83:1 ring and pinion Q's
Post by: Bobzooki on March 04, 2004, 01:39:27 AM

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I have three questions...

3-Do you can fit 5.83:1 gears in a 99 and up GV rear diff?

Well, from ARB's application guide:

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Grand Vitara rear requires conversion using Vitara third member assembly

So I'm guessing there's SOME kind of difference, if you need a Vitara rear carrier to install an ARB air locker.  But if you do, then obviously, the 5.83's would also work, and it MAY NOT be necessary to swap, if you're just doing the 5.83's.

Title: Re: 5.83:1 ring and pinion Q's
Post by: GRVIT on March 04, 2004, 03:21:30 AM

no problems with mine .I m very satisfied.
Also ,dont know if it helps, I have installed the 5,83:1 r&p s' in my 2001 model Vitara.No problems.

Title: Re: 5.83:1 ring and pinion Q's
Post by: lil_Truck on March 05, 2004, 06:50:13 AM

No problem here.  Calimini claims their 30% stronger than stock.

Even though their a higher raito, which usally means more and smaller teeth.  These have fewer teeth and the teeth are bigger in size if you compair the two.

Actual diameter of the pinion is smaller of course but like I said the teeth them selves are larger.

I also had someone tell in their opion they would break, but they never tried them and didn't know anyone who did.  I say go for it.