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Title: Alternator
Post by: TonyBalgony on February 14, 2004, 11:47:21 AM
Have those with off-road lights and such upgraded the alternator, or does the stock one cut the mustard?
I see a brkt to install a GM alternator but am wondering if the gains justify the expense?
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: jonald on February 14, 2004, 12:02:38 PM
I upgraded because my stock alternator was failing and upgrading was cheaper than a stock replacement.  The upgrade is fairly painless as long as you have the right regulator in the GM alternator.

My advise is upgrade when you need to.

When you do, make sure you get a D10SE12 regulator.  This will make it a true one wire hookup.  You literally only need to connect to the output post of the alternator.  The idiot light connection is optional.

The alternator I got with my kit had a different regulator in it which killed my battery.  Once I knew what the problem was, the new regulator only cost me $4.00.
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: 87BlackSami on February 14, 2004, 01:51:11 PM
The stock alternator barely keeps up with the stock components so I upgraded to a GM style. What I did was went to PepBoys and tell them you need an alternator for an 85 Chevy suburban with the biggest engine they have a listing for and every option possible(4x4,A/C,power windows ect.) This will make it easier for you to get the higher 100amp instead of the 60amp. The reason I went this route was because of the lifetime warranty and it still only cost $70.00. Another nice thing with using this alternator is the wires are almost direct replacement after you change the plug.
ALTERNATOR Part #7-69035-20436

Now I have no problems running night ops with 2 100watt lights and sometimes a winch.
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: lil_Truck on February 15, 2004, 08:17:16 AM
Does someone make a kit to replace the alt. with a GM?  I'm about ready to do that and was going to make one.  But if one's available...
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: TonyBalgony on February 15, 2004, 03:24:23 PM
www.off-road.com/suzuki/reviews/petroalt.htm

check this out for the complete kit
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: Samurai_Hamster on February 15, 2004, 11:10:10 PM
If you want to sent your unit in, I think ACE alternator can build it up for you.
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: lil_Truck on February 16, 2004, 01:16:03 AM
It doesn't give any real information.  I think I might be better off getting an Auto Zone lifetime alt. and do it myself.
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: 87BlackSami on February 16, 2004, 07:38:33 AM
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It doesn't give any real information.  I think I might be better off getting an Auto Zone lifetime alt. and do it myself.


That was my point. The only thing that may help the install is if you buy the lower bracket already made from Petroworks or someone. One thing I forgot was while your at the store get the gm alt. plug to fit the alternator. The plug is white in color with 2 female spade terminals molded in. It will have a heavier 12ga. red wire and a 14ga. white wire. Also on my install I had to grind a little on the bottom edge of the stock top adjusting bracket.
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: lil_Truck on February 16, 2004, 07:43:59 AM
OK thanks.
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: Maiden Hell on February 16, 2004, 08:40:25 AM
I too am seriously considering a more powerful alternator.  Mine can't keep up with my stereo on louder volumes at night with all the lights on.  I also want to get a nice set of fog lights.  I'm going to do some research on the net and at the local parts stores and shops to see what I can come up with.
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: lil_Truck on February 16, 2004, 09:06:48 AM
The web sight above didn't give any details.  You might be able to give them a call and find them out.  The cost might be resonable.

I do a lot of mud and water and alt. don't have a long life living that way.  ;D So that's why the Auto Zone idea.

Also, I like to fab my own stuff when I can and this seems like an easy one.
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: Samurai_Hamster on February 16, 2004, 12:20:13 PM
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I too am seriously considering a more powerful alternator.  Mine can't keep up with my stereo on louder volumes at night with all the lights on.  I also want to get a nice set of fog lights.  I'm going to do some research on the net and at the local parts stores and shops to see what I can come up with.

inflames you're killing me.
Title: Alternator
Post by: Alaska101 on February 16, 2004, 01:11:39 PM
This is one of the thing that is on my to do list. I have already killed one batt. with the stock alt. I found this plain om the net can't remember where but who cares!!
Hope this helps!!!

(http://www.kielbassa.com/pictures/answeredelec1.gif)

P.s. if you use it tell me how it worked Thanx
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: Crow_Horse on February 16, 2004, 02:06:52 PM
There are several kits available for a GM alt upgrade.  Trail Tough, Roadless Gear and Petroworks are amoung a few vendors who carry them....
You can get a bit fancy and get creative with the top bracket, but usually the original one will do........

Here's a pic one of the first brackets I made from a go-Kart tie  rod....

(http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/5/web/389000-389999/389122_4_full.jpg)
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: Maiden Hell on February 17, 2004, 12:06:26 PM
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inflames you're killing me.


How so?  :)
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: Maiden Hell on February 17, 2004, 12:07:44 PM
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There are several kits available for a GM alt upgrade.  Trail Tough, Roadless Gear and Petroworks are amoung a few vendors who carry them....
You can get a bit fancy and get creative with the top bracket, but usually the original one will do........

Here's a pic one of the first brackets I made from a go-Kart tie  rod....


([url]http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/5/web/389000-389999/389122_4_full.jpg[/url])


Wow that looks awesome! So clean!  :D
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: zookpuke on February 21, 2004, 05:30:34 AM
 :)I had nothing but problems with alt its self went through 3 probable cause gm alt not ment to spin at rpms that most suzuki owners run.    Iwas told  by an auto electric shop(thatitrust)touse dual battery set . comparale price and works.                              
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: 87BlackSami on February 21, 2004, 11:20:56 AM
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:)I had nothing but problems with alt its self went through 3 probable cause gm alt not ment to spin at rpms that most suzuki owners run.    Iwas told  by an auto electric shop(thatitrust)touse dual battery set . comparale price and works.                              


Not sure why you had such bad luck unless they were rebuilds using old parts(regulator, diode trio, rotor, ect.).
I had no problems since I put the 100amp one on. I run dual red tops and by doing so they may last longer with winching but when they get low on power, it will take longer to get them up to par than if I had one. This may be to stressful for a stock alternator to recharge 2 batteries. For that reason I wouldn't run dual battery with a stock alternator.
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: zookpuke on February 21, 2004, 12:12:33 PM
 :)  hey man just my experience since dual battery. weight has become issue (2800lbs ) got rid of dual battery went with stock alt for track/kick and use one blue top  run winch 2 piaa lights 4 rock lights acc head lights hearter and on board compressor no prob
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: 87BlackSami on February 22, 2004, 06:05:41 AM
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:)  hey man just my experience since dual battery. weight has become issue (2800lbs ) got rid of dual battery went with stock alt for track/kick and use one blue top  run winch 2 piaa lights 4 rock lights acc head lights hearter and on board compressor no prob


No problem, experiences are what forums are all about. I just couldn't stand all the accesories dieing down at an idle in my stock sami, that's why I went with the GM style. Plus I have an onboard welder waiting to be installed which uses an unregulated GM alternator for power. If your looking for any ideas for onboard air using your stock a/c compressor let me know. I have a 2.5gal tank and 160psi at a flick of a switch. It's one less electrical item to worry about.