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ZUKIWORLD Discussion Forum => Suzuki 4x4 Forum => Topic started by: chouze on February 03, 2004, 03:12:46 AM
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I want know if rocky road is a serious firm because I have buy a kit 2.5 'and I hope mmy order five weeks ago
and I mail to it and I have nothing
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I have heard that they are slow at times. Never got anything from them my self.
I've ordered stuff from another company and I know I'll wait months for some stuff.
Can't hurt to call and ask about the brogress of the order.
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I've been to their place of business, in person, and can assure you that they are real.
However, I didn't see any major manufacturing facilities there as I think they rely on other manufacturers to build the products they vend.
Good luck,
~Nate
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Yes, they have been in business for a while now.
Where are you at ?? If you only sent it 5 weeks
ago, and by mail it would take up to 2 weeks or
more just to get there.
Then to process and ship ?? I would E-mail and
find out first if your order has been received yet.
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I have dealt a LOT with Rocky Road, and they have treated me well and their products are good quality. Most of the lift stuff on my Zuk came from them, as did my Xfer case gearing. I'm pleased with their service/merchandise.
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Ive ordered all my lockers and suspension from rocky-road ,took a while but i stay in south africa ..
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The MAJORITY of my mods came from RRO. Lift, DSs, rockrails, wheels etc. etc.
Yes, they are real
Yes, Glenn knows his Samis
Yes, they are sometimes slow
Yes, sometimes stuff comes quick
Give them a call, let em know your still alive and waiting.
;)
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I also ordered some stuff through them. it was slow, but it got here. I'm still waiting on some wheels from them tho. :-/
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I've also ordered some coil spacers from RRO. I emailed to ask the status. Matt replied with an approximate ship date. I received another email a day or two later stating I should have them this Thursday. Give them a shout, they'll respond back.
J
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i just recently started dealing with rro. i havent had any problems with my order, and it was shipped when they told me it would be. however... does any one have any intructions on putting their body lift on the newer style tracker/vitaras? or hints that would assist me as the included instructions are written fore the older models.
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Stingerx, Please let us know how the body lift goes, especialy if there any problems with the steering reconnection, ie, does it line up OK.
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StingerX, Also, what are going to do about the bumpers?
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I won't order stuff from them because I feel that they are not dependable. I've used them about 5 times. Most of the time they are too slow. Order from somewhere else. A couple of times they sent the wrong order. Order from somewhere else. One time they sent the stuff and it got there that week. Undpredictable, udependable.
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Well I have never ordered anything from them I have sold a few parts to them like 4 pin carriers and such sometimes they get the call tag out to ups really quick and other times they are on the slow side about getting the call tag out. I have been waiting on the last one for about 2 weeks now, I have heard from other people that they are sometimes on the slow side on getting orders shipped out. Do waht everyone else has told you give them a call to see when they plain on shipping your order.
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I am still trying to install the Rock-Steady combo on a '02 Chevy Tracker. The stearing linkage does NOT line up. There is a post on off-road.com of '99 Vitara 2" body lift where the guy put two long spacers and bolts to extend the steering shaft. DO NOT DO THIS! There is a lot of torque on this part, and I do not consider steering an optional feature.
I had a machine shop extend the lower shaft between the two u joints 2". 2" is too much and it binds with the shaft colapsed into the column about 3". A custom sleeve was precision machined and TIG welded. Next I am going to try extended the upper shaft that connects to the column with the block. 1.5" should be the correct length, but it still may bind since all of the geometry is thrown off with the lift. Be sure you have shop TIG weld this high tensile steel component. I wouldn't trust anything else.
This kit DOES NOT fit late model vehicles. Custom fabrication is not feasible. I will post if I find solution. So far two weeks without vehicle due to Rock Road claiming the kit would fit. I would not have bought it had I known they were not telling the truth. The column will colapse, but will not extend as they claim.
Regards,
Frustrated and still not lifted
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I used RRO for a lift (2" &2.5") got fast service and good product.
Instructions were - none.
Still better than any thing I got out of Calmini.
bob
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Sinister,
Did you contact RROs and if so, what was thier reply. If you contacted them or haven't, you need to talk to Glenn Wakefield. I think he is the owner. I have bought a couple of things and had good luck but found out the guys that answer the phone don't really know much and can give the wrong answers.
I have their 2" suspension lift on my 2002 2 dour Tracker and it worked OK and was going to buy the 2" body lift but was concerned with the steering linkage problem.
Will be interested on what solution you come up with.
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Yes, I have emailed Glenn.  His response was that it was the first he had heard of someone having trouble with the kit.  I find this hard to believe since I have found numerous web hits regarding it not working and none with a solution.  I can't be the first person to complain about paying for a product that is advertised as working and absolutely does not work.
He offered to weld two connecting blocks together.  This is not an acceptable solution for obvious safety reasons.  This is a brand new daily driver for my wife and child.  When I get the vehicle back from the custom chassis shop (where they build tubular framed race cars from the ground up - and could not solve the angle problem) I will take the body lift off.  I will wait until a "real" solution is offered and settle for an expensive 2" suspension lift and much smaller tires than planned. ÂÂ
Regards,
Late model Trackerless
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as luck would have it i bought my calmini suspension lift and the rro body lift and my truck got whacked by some foolish 16 yr old who just got his liscense before i was able to start working on the track. well since his daddys insurance is paying for the damage they just paid me to fix the damage (+2000 k) in parts, and paid for all my new upgraded parts. regarding the rro body lift one of our members, snoopy told me that on his 2 door track the body lift was no tougher than loosening the brake lines and fabricating bumber brackets. i live in the icy hell called buffalo so im gonna play doctor frankenstien on my truck come thaw in march. i will document the lift process for y'all but its gonna be a few weeks. up till now i have been mostly concerned with the solution for the strut support. now im wondering what else may surprise me in my project seeing it too is a daily driver (fortunatly i can steal my work truck as a back up vehicle)
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Yes, I have emailed Glenn. His response was that it was the first he had heard of someone having trouble with the kit. I find this hard to believe since I have found numerous web hits regarding it not working and none with a solution. I can't be the first person to complain about paying for a product that is advertised as working and absolutely does not work.
He offered to weld two connecting blocks together. This is not an acceptable solution for obvious safety reasons. This is a brand new daily driver for my wife and child. When I get the vehicle back from the custom chassis shop (where they build tubular framed race cars from the ground up - and could not solve the angle problem) I will take the body lift off. I will wait until a "real" solution is offered and settle for an expensive 2" suspension lift and much smaller tires than planned.
Regards,
Late model Trackerless
Frist off some time ago (8/12/03) I emailed glen and talk to him about this and at that time he told me this was frist he head of this. So he flat out S.B.ing you.
The only fix that I know of is to space the two joints by power steering. This can can be done safer with one block with two bolt holes drilled and tapped. Then bolt it back up and put a pin through the end of the bolts so that the nuts can't back off. Safer then weilding two blocks together but then again its not stock SO it would never be as safe.
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 This is not an acceptable solution for obvious safety reasons.  This is a brand new daily driver for my wife and child...  I will wait until a "real" solution is offered and settle for an expensive 2" suspension lift and much smaller tires than planned. ÂÂ
Regards,
Late model Trackerless
Not to pick on you, but lifting a vehicle, especially with a body lift, and considering safety as a daily driver with your family is, well, absurd.
If you want to be safe, don't lift a vehicle. No smart vendor will sell you a body lift and recommend it to be driven on the road. If you do and something happens, shame on you for putting you and your family in harms way.
That being said, I have a prototype 3" body lift from CALMINI on my GV. It's been on since early 2002, and has seen about 25K+ miles. No problems at all. They designed parts to replace OEM components in the steering linkage, and it all went together flawlessly.
My suggestion? Call 'MINI and request that they bring the GV body lift to market.
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I've heard THAT before from other companies.  You gotta watch what you say though, I know someone who got a death threat after expressing ill will toward another company. I don't want to mention any names but they are in Bakersfield.  ::)
Accusing someone of death threats openly, I hope you have evidence of what you acused them of, because that is a VERY SERIOUS accusation. I personally know many of the guys at Calmini and could not imagine any of them doing that!!!!
Zig
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I've heard THAT before from other companies.  You gotta watch what you say though, I know someone who got a death threat after expressing ill will toward another company. I don't want to mention any names but they are in Bakersfield.  ::)
Wow. That's a heavy accusation, Bobby. Death threats? For real? You're talking CALMINI, or more likely, Steve Kramer, right? Who else is from Bakersfield.?
I know you have no love loss for Steve or his company, but can you back up such a claim? If not, that's some seriously comments.
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I've heard THAT before from other companies.  You gotta watch what you say though, I know someone who got a death threat after expressing ill will toward another company. I don't want to mention any names but they are in Bakersfield.  ::)
Zukicidal (Bobby),
This post was brought to my attention by Calmini, a paid advertizer for this site in which their contributions and the contributions of others make this website and this forum available for use. I believe that all of the Vendors involved with ZUKIWORLD strive to be the best, to be legitimate, and work hard every day to deal with their customers fairly and honestly. With this in mind, I think you can understand my concern about your accusation of them acting out what is considered an illegal activity. Your statement is serious and requires the following action if you wish to remain a member of this forum. First, either proof that the statement is true or a public retraction must be posted. Second, your profile must be filled out completely and correctly. You have until Feb 13th, 2004 5PM PST to comply.
Thank you, Eric
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Not to pick on you, but lifting a vehicle, especially with a body lift, and considering safety as a daily driver  with your family is, well, absurd.
If you want to be safe, don't lift a vehicle.  No smart vendor will sell you a body lift and recommend it to be driven on the road.  If you do and something happens, shame on you for putting you and your family in harms way.
That being said, I have a prototype 3" body lift from CALMINI on my GV.  It's been on since early 2002, and has seen about 25K+ miles.  No problems at all.  They designed parts to replace OEM components in the steering linkage, and it all went together flawlessly.
My suggestion?  Call  'MINI and request that they bring the GV body lift to market.
What? Any reasonable body or suspension lift, which includes the ones we are talking about here, is acceptable for street use. Both of my Suzukis are lifted and both are driven regularly on the street by my wife.
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Yankee boy,
There is a big difference between adding lift blocks and dismantling your steering linkage. Go away!
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Not to pick on you, but lifting a vehicle, especially with a body lift, and considering safety as a daily driver with your family is, well, absurd.
If you want to be safe, don't lift a vehicle. No smart vendor will sell you a body lift and recommend it to be driven on the road. If you do and something happens, shame on you for putting you and your family in harms way.
Wow. Dont you think thats a little harsh? I do consider saftey while building my rig. Thats why I run a cage, a larger braking system , and for every inch I went up... I went out. Wider is better baby! If I didnt consider my rig safe I wouldnt drive it 40K+ a year. Sure I could drive a Volvo, make my kids wear helmets, and fill the thing with pakaging peanuts, but is that really living? Where do you draw the line on saftey? I think it comes down to what your capable of driving safely. I dont think A properly installed body lift should not be dangerous.
Mike
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*EDIT* I personally know many of the guts ay Calmini ...*EDIT*
Zig
Wow Zig, you really do know them inside and out!
::)
Mike
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It's all in how you look at it. Comen sense is a big factor. If i drove any of my sammys i had or my track i have now like my old MR2 id be in a world of hurt. Lifted or not there great at what they do just drive to your ability. Yeah yeah it might sound stupid coming from a 18 year old but ive had a lotta f*** up's and from what ive learnd i dont think a body lift will compermise the safety of your vehicle. AS for RR's buisness i wouldn't know. I know they told me to slot the strut tower holes on my track for camber but i went to car quest and got camber bolts for my track for $14.00. ;D
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Wow Zig, you really do know them inside and out!
::)
Mike
;D
Guy's, guts what's the difference ::)
Zig
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What?  Any reasonable body or suspension lift, which includes the ones we are talking about here, is acceptable for street use.  Both of my Suzukis are lifted and both are driven regularly on the street by my wife.
That's your opinion. Any professional manufacturer will not recommend body lifts for on-road use. Yup, for liability reasons. But liability isn't made up, it's real. Lifting a body off the frame increases the potential of the body separating from the frame during a severe impact or crash.
Additionally. lifting a truck, be it body or susupension or both, increases the COG, negatively affects handling and increases the potential of roll over.
So, a 3" suspension lift or a 3" body lift will result in the same crash rating as the truck in stock form?
Now don't get me wrong, I have a total of 5.5" of lift (body and suspension) on my GV. I drive with my old lady and kid in it. And I understand that my potential to have an accident an/or injury is increased. I live with that decision. "Safe" is a relative term. What one considers safe is dangerous to others. I've had folkd refuse to ride in my truck because they considered them to be "unsafe".
That's all I'm saying.
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Yankee boy,
There is a big difference between adding lift blocks and dismantling your steering linkage.  Go away!
Yankee BOY? LOL! Resorting to name calling sure does speak volumes about your maturity and intelligence level. ::) Such a noob.
Yes, there is a difference between adding lift blocks and using cheezy steering linkage pieces. But so is there a difference between safety of a stock Vit and a body lifted one, whether you want to admit it or not.
Funny, I'm sitting here with a CALMINI 3" body-lifted GV, with a professionally made component to correct the issue with the steering linkage. Works perfect, and has had no issues with it al all in 2 years and 25-30K miles on it.
Maybe I could take a picture of it and show you how they engineered the fix. Maybe I could help you out and make it so your body lift would work. Maybe I could even make the part for you, just 'cuz I'm a nice guy.
Maybe...
Maybe not.
Nope, not. See, I have to "go away". ;D
Enjoy you non-functioning body lift, Sin. :P
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Welded steering linkage, ya, so what, the factory
welded the U-joints to the end of my steering shaft,
so welds are unsafe ??? tell that to all the people
flying around the country, lots of welds in those planes.
The most important piece of safety equipment is the
one that's located between your ears, use it and live,
or not, depending on how good it is. (see Darwin awards)
If I need to weld a steering part, I do it, I do it right, I
think my weld is a tad bit stronger than the rag joint
I've seen on many vehicles.
Does that GV or XL have power steering ??
that makes the force on the weld even less, make it
work and stop whining about the small stuff, there are
bigger things to complain about, like land closures
in Moab >:(
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hey tim,
how about posting a few pics of the linkage solution for the more polite bunch of us out there who are trying to install body lifts on our zuks. thanks
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hey tim,
how about posting a few pics of the linkage solution for the more polite bunch of us out there who are trying to install body lifts on our zuks. thanks
i second this idea. and with better/larger/more angles/higher resolution pictures than the instruction manual. if you please :D
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Accusing someone of death threats openly, I hope you have evidence of what you acused them of, because that is a VERY SERIOUS accusation. I personally know many of the guys at Calmini and could not imagine any of them doing that!!!!
Zig
Just to make it official,
I NEVER SAID THAT CALMINI MADE THE THREATS.
I don't know who did, you guys jumped to conclusions.
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Just to make it official,
I NEVER SAID THAT CALMINI MADE THE THREATS.
I don't know who did, you guys jumped to conclusions.
Oh, I'm sorry, I guess you meant the OTHER Suzuki parts aftermarket manufacturer in Bakersfield. Exactly what conclusion did you expect us to make?
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sence when did this turn into a "normal" fourm where every one hates each other? why don't we stop this shit and get back to the way it was before.
Stu
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Oh, I'm sorry, I guess you meant the OTHER Suzuki parts aftermarket manufacturer in Bakersfield.  Exactly what conclusion did you expect us to make?
You need to read it again. I said someone got threats after TALKING ABOUT the company, not FROM the company.
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sence when did this turn into a "normal" fourm where every one hates each other?  why don't we stop this shit and get back to the way it was before.
Stu
I do apoligize to the readers of this forum. I don't hate everyone, just Calmini. That's why I'm not welcome here and I get flamed. Big brother doesn't like the vocal unhappy customer, it's bad for business.
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Im with Stu on this one , I come here to talk zuki , if i wanted arguments I would turn the computer off and go talk to my wife.
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sence when did this turn into a "normal" fourm where every one hates each other?  why don't we stop this shit and get back to the way it was before.
Stu
I second that motion.
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I do apoligize to the readers of this forum.  I don't hate everyone, just Calmini.  That's why I'm not welcome here and I get flamed. Big brother doesn't like the vocal unhappy customer, it's bad for business.
thank you, i didn't try to flame you. sorry if you took it that way..
P.S. i don't like calmini eather.
stu
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To be honest, I think it comes down to personal preference, pretty much like everything else you buy.
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I do apoligize to the readers of this forum.  I don't hate everyone, just Calmini.  That's why I'm not welcome here and I get flamed. Big brother doesn't like the vocal unhappy customer, it's bad for business.
Zukicidal, zukicidal, and/or (Bobby),
Thank you for apologizing to the readers on your forum for poor behavior. This forum, made possible by vendors contributions, prides itself on being one of the only places on the net where real conversations take place. I am proud that there is less fawk this and that, less angry little emoticons, and all out character assassinations then on most other forums on the web. This is so because the community of people on this forum pride themselves on good honest dialoge and useful communication. Both of which you have not demonstrated with your actions and posts. I've read your post here, your PM to me, and your recent profile changes. It appears that you do not want to join this community but would rather trick them into thinking you want to contribute.
Farewell Zukicidal, zukicidal, (Bobby)
Thank you, Eric
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Thank you, Eric