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Title: 1.6 in a sammy
Post by: roeman on May 16, 2005, 01:44:16 AM
Hi, i am considering putting a 1.6 in my sammy, (8v)

What is the performance like any one have a 0-60 time?

How easy is it to do? do you just but the adaptor plates?  (i have limited mecheanical know how)

cheers guys  :)
Title: Re: 1.6 in a sammy
Post by: Ddog87 on May 16, 2005, 04:08:58 AM
Friend of mine just did this swap. He used trail toughs kit and it was simple. We wnet to the dunes this weekend and there wasn't hardly a hill he could not climb. He has wrangler lift with 33" tires. I have a sidekick and he stayed right with me
Title: Re: 1.6 in a sammy
Post by: nitromax on May 16, 2005, 04:26:06 AM
Too bad there's no "search" button on this board (http://www.motor-forum.nl/forum/images/smilies/shutup.gif)(http://www.motor-forum.nl/forum/images/smilies/shutup.gif)

For what it's worth:

http://www.nitromax.nl/SAMENGINESWAP.HTM
Title: Re: 1.6 in a sammy
Post by: Cwkick on May 16, 2005, 05:09:15 AM
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Too bad there's no "search" button on this board ([url]http://www.motor-forum.nl/forum/images/smilies/shutup.gif[/url])([url]http://www.motor-forum.nl/forum/images/smilies/shutup.gif[/url])

For what it's worth:

[url]http://www.nitromax.nl/SAMENGINESWAP.HTM[/url]



???

There is a search button at the top of the page.  Third button over.

Cwkick
Title: Re: 1.6 in a sammy
Post by: zuksofhazzard on May 16, 2005, 05:14:10 AM
Sarcasim   ^^^  :)
Title: Re: 1.6 in a sammy
Post by: roeman on May 16, 2005, 05:31:44 AM
on that webpage you had to weld is this totally nessary can i get away without doing that?

cheers  ;D
Title: Re: 1.6 in a sammy
Post by: Ddog87 on May 16, 2005, 06:06:48 AM
NO welding on trail toughs kit
Title: Re: 1.6 in a sammy
Post by: nitromax on May 16, 2005, 06:15:16 AM
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on that webpage you had to weld is this totally nessary can i get away without doing that?

cheers  ;D

Of course there's a way around welding, buy an expensive kit that does exactly the same as the way we did it on my rig ;).

Cost is..................errrrmmm..............a cup of coffee for the guy that welded it and a couple of old bolts ( which again didn't cost a dime actually ).

|removethispart|@ ZuksofHazzard: very sharp ;D
Title: Re: 1.6 in a sammy
Post by: Ddog87 on May 16, 2005, 06:40:04 AM
If you don't have a welder or friends there kit is $149. Pretty cheap
Title: Re: 1.6 in a sammy
Post by: ack on May 16, 2005, 10:50:02 AM
I used the Calmini kit on mine without welding.  Works great!

See this article at izook.com:
http://www.izook.com/tech/samurai/engine/1600swap/tech1600motor.htm

Depending on how you want to set up the aspiration, it gets a bit complicated and expensive.

The ultimate way is to use a adapted engine harness, ECM and 1.6 Fuel Injection system.  Benefits: reliable offroad operation at unusual angles, low maintenance, good fuel economy.  Problems:  rebuilt harnesses can be expensive.  

Most of the big aftermarket suppliers offer rebuilt harnesses -- Trail Tough comes to mind...

Another way is to use a 1.3 head with an aggressive cam and a Weber carb (DGAV 3236 is a typical unit).  Sarge at Midwest Performance http://www.performancewebers.com/  has a nice setup that includes a slightly-modified intake that improves operation at unusual angles.  This is what I run.  My head and cam came from a well-known vendor but I cannot vouch for his ability to deliver on his product without severe brow-beating over the phone (no, it isn't Rocky Road...)  Benefits:  simple technology (read NO rats-nest of vaccuum hoses!), no ECM, okay fuel economy,  costs a little less.

If I had the 1.6 WITH the harness and the ECM, I'd get the  harness rebuilt as the cost would be a toss-up but the reliable odd-angle operation would be a big plus!