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Title: hard starting
Post by: brace on January 28, 2004, 10:38:29 PM
My little zuk was really hard starting this morning.  I had to use starting fluid on it.  It's an '84 manual choke which is working.  It maybe water in the fuel, but I put isopropyl in before filling it up.  Maybe it was really bad gas to start with.  I don't like rolling around with starter fluid, and I am sure it's not good for the 1.0.  Any suggestions?  
Title: Re: hard starting
Post by: wildgoody on January 29, 2004, 01:41:32 AM
0-30 Wt oil, hotter plugs, is the Battery ok or just ok?
check your compression, and it's just plain old friggin
cold out, keep the starting fluid handy, it's not really
dangerous, just keep the cap on so you don't give
yourself a dose of it too  :o
Title: Re: hard starting
Post by: MB on January 29, 2004, 07:03:15 AM
I agree with Wildgoody, its colder and lighter oil won't hurt along with better plugs. My sami wouldn't start one of the colder mornings here, so I installed bosch premiums and switched to Mobil 1 5w-30. Now it starts when our other cars won't. I also plan on getting one of them engine block heaters. :)
Title: Re: hard starting
Post by: brace on January 29, 2004, 11:49:08 PM
I am currently running NGK?? plugs and using 10w30 Kendal oil.  Would switching to 5w30 make a difference?  Did you mean Bosch Platinums?  If so which ones?  The (Platinum+4)already gapped $6 a piece ones, the Platinum 2 already gapped $4, or the plan Platinum  $2?  
Title: Re: hard starting
Post by: MB on January 30, 2004, 02:18:00 AM
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I am currently running NGK?? plugs and using 10w30 Kendal oil.  Would switching to 5w30 make a difference?  Did you mean Bosch Platinums?  If so which ones?  The (Platinum+4)already gapped $6 a piece ones, the Platinum 2 already gapped $4, or the plan Platinum  $2?  


I was told at the auto parts store that the plain platinum plugs perform just as well as the others at a lower price, so why not save a lil green and go with them? I guess thats a personal choice but for me the plain bosch plats work great.

Try the 5w-30 oil or 30w in the winter as they get to the top end a little sooner than heavier oils. I think your book would call for 5w-30 anyhow? Someone correct me if I'm wrong here. :)
Title: Re: hard starting
Post by: brace on January 30, 2004, 02:37:26 AM
you're right the sticker under the hood calls for 5w-30
Title: Re: hard starting
Post by: wildgoody on January 30, 2004, 02:39:41 AM
Don't dump the platinums, just get a cheap set of
hotter plugs for winter, then put in the Bosch for the
rest of the year.  Yes big difference in crank speed
from 10-30 to 5-30 and even 0-30 Mobil1, in the
super cold I would go with 0-30  , I use 5-30 here
in So. Cal in the " winter" LOL but it does get a little
cold here, several mornings will be frozen here, mostly
it will be about 35-37* and drop in the Mts  to 10 - 20


Title: Re: hard starting
Post by: brace on January 30, 2004, 04:08:44 AM
aren't bosch platinums hot enough?  
Title: Re: hard starting
Post by: brace on January 30, 2004, 04:10:13 AM
I am getting confused.  Is 0-30 the same as 30w?  
Title: Re: hard starting
Post by: MB on January 30, 2004, 04:39:31 AM
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aren't bosch platinums hot enough?  


What ever brand plug you chose, do not exceed the heat range recommendation of the manufacturer
To hot = trouble
Title: Re: hard starting
Post by: lil_Truck on January 30, 2004, 09:04:03 AM
I have a VW carbed buggy.  When I went with Platinum plugs and it made a world of difference.  If it was me I'd try the double leads with a carbed motor.  It's only $16.  That's a cheep fix in anyone's book.  

I think I might even have them in my 96 Tracker.  Under the most extrem conditions they never miss a beat.

As for the oil, does the engine turn over slow?  Any slower than in the summer?

If so another thing to check is your battery.  Put a volt meter on your batter when your truck is cold.  Crank the motor and make sure the voltage doesn't get close to 9 volts.  If it does you battery is getting week.

I still have my mobil 15W-40 oil in my truck.  At -4 degrees F it still starts fine but it's also injected.

Lastly, has the proformance changed at all after its started and wormed up?
Title: Re: hard starting
Post by: zookiemike on January 30, 2004, 04:33:01 PM
i run Ams Oil 10/30 in my track and it starts in -11 no prob lemo. Plus with ams you only change your oil every 25k and your fillter every 3k.
Title: Re: hard starting
Post by: brace on February 02, 2004, 01:44:33 AM
It's starting on the first hit again.   ;D I am getting gas at a different place.  I was going to go up one heat range on NGK's but decided against it.  I am going to swap the oil from 10w-30 to 5w-30.  Once it started it was fine.  By the way it was -25 around here for a week for a while and it was starting.  I think it was just bad gas and not putting dry gas(isop.) in before filling up.  My wife's Safari had the check engine soon light from the same gas station.
Title: Re: hard starting
Post by: NY_SIDEKICKER on February 03, 2004, 12:18:48 PM
YEA IT SURE WAS A COLD COUPLE WEEKS UP HERE...WATER IN THE GAS SEEMED TO BE MY MAJOR PROBLEM AS WELL....I NOW ADD DRY GAS AT EVERY FILL UP TIL THIS COLD WEATHER GOES AWAY.......MATTY D.  8)