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ZUKIWORLD Discussion Forum => Suzuki 4x4 Forum => Topic started by: zookiemike on January 30, 2004, 04:13:52 PM
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It's a marketing sceam I tell you. calmini makes heavy dutie upper control arms for the nissin hard bodie why not trackers? ALL I WANT ARE ARMS DONT NEED A KIT>:((http://www.purenissan.com/P0006448a.jpg)
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Why not ask them to custom make you some? If there is no demand for it, they won't make it, just like everything else in this wacky world.
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Dont have that kinda money. I think they could sell them seperate from there super arc kit.
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They could easily sell the pieces separately, but they won't. They say that they are not willing to break up the kits because they won't make as much money due to people copying or modifying the parts. They feel that more people are going to be taking their stuff and making money off them indirectly. I had a friend a couple of years ago wreck his tracker with the Calmini 3" and I called Calmini to get replacement front arms because they got damaged, they absolutely would not sell the arms separately! He had to buy a new kit!
Personally I think that part is crap! But in the same token, I understand where they are coming from, just look at how many zuki things that different people have copied and made money on over the years!
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Idaho,
Did you explain to them that it was damaged in a wreck and offer to send the damaged parts to them, or just ask to buy a set of control arms. I have delt with Steve and the guys from Calmini for almost 10 years now, and that does not seem like something they would do. I have alwaye received top notch customer service from them, but have never distroyed any thing on one of their Kits.
Zig
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I would agree, with Zig the folks at Calmini have treated me like gold for many years, and different trucks. There was a fellow up here that wrecked his grand and the allowed him to buy only what was needed to replace the wrecked parts from the accident.
Mac
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I'm going to deal with Calmini in April when I order their exhaust system. From what I hear, they are very friendly and knowledgeable people.
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There people are nice if you spend money. There pricks if you have a qustion. As for knowledgeable ther full of it. They told me they knew nothing about the other suspension kitts THATS B.S. There are only two manafactures of suspension for trak kick's and because of there line of crap i run the O.M.E kit. There kitt could be copyed no problem not just the arms but the the whole thing.  They say that they are not willing to break up the kits because they won't make as much money due to people copying or modifying the parts. THATS B.S another line. If i were to buy anything calmini it would be from someone besides them>:(
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Well....yet another opinion I will take into consideration. Only time will tell..
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There people are nice if you spend money. There pricks if you have a qustion. As for knowledgeable ther full of it. They told me they knew nothing about the other suspension kitts THATS B.S. There are only two manafactures of suspension for trak kick's and because of there line of crap i run the O.M.E kit. There kitt could be copyed no problem not just the arms but the the whole thing.  They say that they are not willing to break up the kits because they won't make as much money due to people copying or modifying the parts. THATS B.S another line. If i were to buy anything calmini it would be from someone besides them>:(
What did the other manufacturer tell you about the Calmini system when you bought there setup, it sounds like you are not totaly happy with the lift, just a thought but try in the garage sale section, I did find a 2" Calmini kit earlier this year in the wreckers and sold it too a friend, there has to be more out there.
Mac
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Im not saying calminis a bad company It's just i got a bad first impesstion from them talking down on other kitts. I look at a companys ability to see the diference between the others kitt not just diss on them. I bought my emu kitt from reider racing in detriot not rocky road.
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I have to disagree with you here. Would you walk into Walmart and ask them to break up a dinning set cause all you wanted was the bowls? They build their product to sell as a package. Besides, they have the right to... its their product. As far as replacement parts for accidents ect I am certain that if you offered to return your bent part (as proof ) that a deal could be reached. I would be willing to bet that they hear the old "Ive been in an accident and just need front control arms" bit weekly. Im not saying thats your freinds case but think about it from their shoes. :-/
As for people copying Calminis designs... I know of several almost exact copys of their product. For that matter their are many other companys getting their products copyed too. At least this way if they are going to copy the product they are going to have to buy the whole kit. :P
In my experience Calmini has been a great company to deal with. I remember years back when I was just getting into the Tracker scene they were extremely helpful and delivered a great product when they said they would. Thats why I bought so much Calmini stuff. I almost didnt post this cause I hate to sound so Calmini Ra Ra but if it was something else I felt this way about I would have, so WTF. Theres my 2 cents on it.
Mike
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Man I respect your opinion on the mater at hand toataly. Sure i like the kitt  just a lack of info steerd me eles were. As for the arms..... drop it there is no need for conflikt in intrest becouse we love all suzuki and we all sould get along. Im sorey if i sounded pig headed but hey what can you do.It seems ive hit a touchy subject. Dont mean to sound one sided.Im sure the poeple at calmini are great. I just guess the guy on the phone was'nt ready for twenty questions ;)sorey calmini
                           Mike Hartel
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When a ordered my lift they broke it up for me. As for them not knowing "stuff" dependes on who you talk to their. Steve And Chris are the two best people that I have delt with their.
George
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Man I respect your opinion on the mater at hand toataly. Sure i like the kitt  just a lack of info steerd me eles were. As for the arms..... drop it there is no need for conflikt in intrest becouse we love all suzuki and we all sould get along. Im sorey if i sounded pig headed but hey what can you do.It seems ive hit a touchy subject. Dont mean to sound one sided.Im sure the poeple at calmini are great. I just guess the guy on the phone was'nt ready for twenty questions ;)sorey calmini
                           Mike Hartel
THUMBS UP MIKE.....KEEP THE PEACE BABY !
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The bent arms were offered up as proof/exchange, but it didn't seem to matter. I understand they have certain policies they have to follow, but there should be exceptions to the rule.
He ended up trying to do a SAS on his tracker instead.
They have a rather interesting stand on the Sport theory as well. Thye think that the sports have a totally different suspension front and rear than the regular Sidekick. The only difference with the suspension is the lower control arms on the front are cast an a little longer than the kicks. They won't even deal with you if you have a sport. The only diff with the rear is the rear axle itself is that it is a little over an inch and a half wider on each side because of the ABS sensors are in each wheel. The arms are exactly the same on the rear.
C'mon people, make some different lower front a-arms for the sport! It's not that big of a deal for you to do!
Since the failed arm replacement ordeal, I have started to deal directly with Steve, he is a really good guy, but he really needs to get better people on the phones!
Also, as far as the original post that started this thread, Suzuki never made upper control arms for the kicks on the front.
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I wonder if you could use the a arms for the 3" kit as part of the 2" lift kit to suit the sidekick sport. There’s got to be a market; a lot of these go back to 97 and now is the time people are looking at mods.
Charlie
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I had a friend a couple of years ago wreck his tracker with the Calmini 3" and I called Calmini to get replacement front arms because they got damaged, they absolutely would not sell the arms separately! He had to buy a new kit!!
Why did you call? It should have been the original purchaser. If you didn't buy it, yet want help, I could understand a cold shoulder.
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Man I respect your opinion on the mater at hand toataly. Sure i like the kitt just a lack of info steerd me eles were. As for the arms..... drop it there is no need for conflikt in intrest becouse we love all suzuki and we all sould get along. Im sorey if i sounded pig headed but hey what can you do.It seems ive hit a touchy subject. Dont mean to sound one sided.Im sure the poeple at calmini are great. I just guess the guy on the phone was'nt ready for twenty questions ;)sorey calmini
Mike Hartel
I respect your opinion just the same. I hope nobody is misunderstanding me here. Im not pissed, its not really a touchy subject, and there is no need to keep the peace. ;) I just disagreed, thats all.
:-* Mike
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well thats cool. I thought about the arm thing and it's not that big of a deal 8) My stock arms do the job just fine. If i had bigger lower arms id break other things that i cant aford. I guese i made the right choice im on the road more than off :P By the way my original post was "calmini makes heavy dutie upper control arms for the [shadow=red,left,300]NISSIN HARD BODY [/shadow]why not trackers?"see
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Cause a tracker doesn't have an upper control arm?
Or i'm I missing a part?
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OK one more time...to clarify the nissin hard body does.. trackers dont i know this. The point is calmini sell's the arms seprate from ther kitt and they offer just the arms upper or lower regardless. :-/         (http://www.purenissan.com/P0006448a.jpg)
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People are just messen with ya.  If you take your first post gramaticly, it reads like you wished they made upper control arms for the Tracker.  :P