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ZUKIWORLD Discussion Forum => Suzuki 4x4 Forum => Topic started by: Ronzuki on January 26, 2004, 10:37:21 PM
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Well, isn't that just enlightening...
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Extreemly ........
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::)K :-[N :P
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Yea, what he said!!! ::)
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Are you asking. How they work? What the do? ???
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I think that they are hubs, that you have to operate manually, but I'm not posative :P
Zig
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they came standard on your sammy ;D
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I like my auto hubs . sometimes makes funny noises when disengages during a climb, but works good.
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I typed the message twice now and it never will post. If this post I will ask my question again.
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Ok, I noticed that in the Tracker manual it says not to leave your manual hubs locked when not in 4wd. I have done this for years on other vehicles with manual hubs and have never seen this warning before. We have been having sudden snow storms and it is nice just to engage 4wd when needed on a trip that it looks like 4wd will be needed. Do you guys leave your hubs locked when you leave and drive in 2wd till you need 4wd so you don't need to pull over and turn the hubs.
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I would not do it for long trips. When trail riding, or riding around town in bad weather(45 mph and slower), I will leave my hubs locked in. But for everyday driving they stay unlocked and if they are needed I pull over and lock them in. Any manual lockout 4x4 owners manual will tell you not to leave them locked in when not in use. When their locked in it will spin everything in your front driveline back to the T-case, causing unnecessary wear and tare, lowered gas mileage and at high interstate speeds could realy mess up something.
Later,
Zig
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I would not do it for long trips. When trail riding, or riding around town in bad weather(45 mph and slower), I will leave my hubs locked in. But for everyday driving they stay unlocked and if they are needed I pull over and lock them in. Any manual lockout 4x4 owners manual will tell you not to leave them locked in when not in use. When their locked in it will spin everything in your front driveline back to the T-case, causing unnecessary wear and tare, lowered gas mileage and at high interstate speeds could realy mess up something.
Later,
Zig
Don't forget to add vibrations due to stock configuration was to be running free. On some newer models, like the Vitara and XL7, where there is a drive flange, the front axle and driveshaft are in constant motion when car is in motion. Running unlocked manual lockers would free up the front axle, providing some better mileage, adding life to the front axle and it's components.
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I can't think of anything running the hubs locked
could damage, but why wear out the allready weak
CVs before their time, that and the loss of mileage.
I once forgot the hubs for about 2 or 3 months, till I
went to go wheeling and went to lock them, DOH !!
well my T-case is still fine and it was just last week
I changed the original CV from the Pass Side  ;)
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It's not that it's going to break anything as there is nothing locked together. It's more of a drag concern on the vehicle, with very little concern for wear of items since they are engaged (ie. bearings, seals, cv's, boots, etc.). Most of these items are not in motion constantly so wear will occur. Now to measure the wear is something else and have an accurate measurement forget about that!! LOL.
But a need to replace a cv boot, rather than the cv itself, could be argued due to the rotation of the shaft and constant stretch and compression during turning.
Think of it like why does the front tires wear when they are not driven (if driven constantly straight)? Why does the rear tires wear on a front wheel drive vehicle? Drag is a wear item.
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So nothing stops from doing it, like every other 4x4. The boots last forever on front drive cars and my Mazda had 260k miles and was part-time and full-time and never replaced anything but gas. I had lockers front and rear and they engaged when I put it in part-time and stayed unlocked in full time or 2wd. I think I will install Air-Lockers and install them the same way. It worked great and never caused a problem, I just installed a manual over-ride button for those times when I needed the back to be locked.
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Remember the manuals are written for idiots!!  If they didn't say that then someone would lock their hubs in at the start of winter and unlock them in the spring if they remembered.  It's just the manufactures covering their buttox.
If its a snowy type of day and you think you might want 4wd then lock them in.  As soon as the conditions are better unlock them.  Your more likely to rip a boot wheeling than you are turning the axil shafts just driving down the road.
I've gone 4wheeling where you might have to go 15 miles between trails.  I've just left the front locked and ran in 2wd.  Just a little slower.
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I think he has a Sammy so he shouldn't have to worry about boots anyways.  Some of the really old Jimnys over here don't even have hubs. They just have kind of like a metal plate with splines in it that bolt directly on to the axle.
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But, in a Tracker after lifting it the CV joints are at a constant angle putting more stress on the CV boots therefore causeing them to tear more easiler.  Thats one of the reasons why I keep mine unlocked. ÂÂ
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I think he has a Sammy so he shouldn't have to worry about boots anyways.  Some of the really old Jimnys over here don't even have hubs.  They just have kind of like a metal plate with splines in it that bolt directly on to the axle.
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LOL I ran into one of those bad boys in the junkyard, trying to find an SJ30 transfer case. (but it was too old and had the smaller xfer case mount :'() And just throwin my 2 cents in, I don't leave mine locked.
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Out on the trail I leave mine locked.... When I get ready to drive home Ill unlock em.
Later,
Bill