ZUKIWORLD Online | Suzuki 4x4 Editorial and Forum
ZUKIWORLD Discussion Forum => Suzuki 4x4 Forum => Topic started by: Kreg on January 22, 2004, 12:41:56 PM
-
Do you have any pics of the Jackall bracket on your bumper? How did you make it?
I wana weld one onto my rear bumper by Sunday, cuz I'm sick of having my Jackall banging around in the back of my truck when I take it off road.
It's freaken noisy, and it's taking a toll on the paint.
-
Ahh ok just looked at your webpage and I see how its attached.
What do you guys think would be the best way of vertically attaching a jackall from the base? Cuz I don't have a swing away tire carrier.
-
How big of one? See if you can secure it to the bottom of the tailgate on the inside. There are mounting kits for it so that should be easy enough. You just need to have the correct length.
If it's taller and you don't mind it sitting vertical, get it to mount to the outside portion of the tailgate as close to the hinges as possible. Simple enough. :o
-
Ya its a long one. So there’s no way possible to mount it on the inside.
I was thinking maybe I'll just build a bracket and mount it horizontally on the front bumper. thats probably the easiest way to go.
Cuz if I mount it on the back bumper in a horizontal fashion, then I cant open my tailgate with the jackall attached. ( though I suppose I couldn’t open the tailgate with it sitting vertically either come to think of it.)
These brackets you speak of, do they mount on the door or the bumper? how easy are they to find? Who sells them?
Thanks.
-
I'd see about fabbing it to the spare tire carrier and having the tire out farther, but then this adds a bigger torque arm to the hingers.
What I had in mind was to take a 'L' bracket and secure it to the tailgate closest to the hinges as possible. This would be the base for the base of the lift. Then mount another 'U' bracket up higher in the tailgate to provide vertical support to the lift.
The lower bracket would be shaped like a step. The base secures the base of the lift. The mounts are secured to the tailgate with a cross-bracket on the inside. The sheetmetal won't be strong enough to hold the weight. However, if the inside cross bracket was secured to some structural crossmember of the door, then through the tailgate to the mount, it should be strong enough for that. Then the same inside tailgate support for the upper bracket. Again, keep as close to hinges as possible.
I wouldn't suggest that you place the hi-lift up front unless it's high. They do bend.
-
So far. this is the best pic I can found of those mounts.
(http://www.4wheelparts.com/assets/images/products/accessories/hilift/hilift_4X400-rac_c.jpg )
-
Kreg, do you use your back seat? What I did with mine was remove the rear seat belts, removed the plastic trim around the seat belt anchors (upper, V-shaped next to window) and bolted an L-bracket to the anchor on both sides. Then used long bolts with wing nuts to secure the high lift to the brackets. I can snap a pic tomorrow if ya want.
-
Here's another thought. Do you require the interior panels. If you were to remove or trim them enough, would the hi-lift lay across on the floor? You do have the 48" model, and not the 60"? Have you tried to lift the Trackick with it yet? Is it necessary for the 48" model rather than 36" model?
Since you have one, lube it with white lithium spray especially in the holes where the pins lock in/out. Lube the pins. It's not necessary to lube the flat surface of the lift. Use leather gloves when in use. Do not stand directly in line of the handle movement. Stand off to the side. It will snap back at you and it really hurts!!! Get to understand the hi-lift by use in the driveway as it's better there rather than in the mud... Add a slightly larger wood plate (1/2"-3/4") thick. This will help spread the base area if needed. I also pack a 2x4 and a 4x4 just bigger than the plate for differences in terrain. (They also help raise the base higher.) Always leave the lift with the pins in 'lift mode'. AND remember, it's never safe to have a vehicle up off it's wheels without frame support.
Just a few words of safety for a simple item.
-
I still use the stock jack. ;) It fits nicely under the seat. ;D
Here's the funny part... IM NOT JOKING! :o It works great You just need a little 4x4x6 peice of wood to sit underneath. Light and simple. Besides, where could I even use a highlift on my rig? We tried on day to get me off a rockpile I got jammed on. The front is tappered, on the rocker skids dont hang out far enough to not bend the door in. On the back we jacked untill the jack topped out. :'(
-
I still use the stock jack. ;) It fits nicely under the seat.  ;D
Here's the funny part... IM NOT JOKING!  :o It works great You just need a little 4x4x6 peice of wood to sit underneath. Light and simple. Besides, where could I even use a highlift on my rig? We tried on day to get me off a rockpile I got jammed on. The front is tappered, on the rocker skids dont hang out far enough to not bend the door in. On the back we jacked untill the jack topped out. :'(
A lot of scenarios the hi-lift is a good tool to use, in others, the stock jack is wonderful. If you have a flat out in Moab, I'd use a jack over the highlift. I still keep it readily available.
As for your hi-lift problem, Mike, is there a way to place a couple of holes for the lip of the hi-lift in that front bumper wedge and the same for the rear bumper?
As for the nerfs, you could always use the wheelwells to help lift the vehicle???? :o
-
How about this? There's another piece that has a chain and a hook that fits the Hi-Lift that they call a bumber lift.                                      (http://www.4wheelparts.com/assets/images/products/accessories/hilift/hilift_LM100_b.jpg ) here it is(http://www.central4wd.com/images//photos/868.bumper%20lift.jpg )
one more thing. The jack brackets              (http://www.central4wd.com/images//photos/Photo866.4x4.gif )
http://www.central4wd.com/
-
I REALLY GOTTA LOOK INTO GETTING ONE OF THOSE HI LIFTS........
-
My Hi Lift won't lift my truck from the front, back, or nerfs. I either lift from the bead lock ring on my rim, or directly off the axle housing.
I value my Hi lift more than my winch and I use it far more often!
Jake Palmberg
-
I have a 60 and i have to lay it down across where the back seat was. i have only used it a few times this year but if i didn't have it , it would of been truble.
Stu
-
PROBABLY SMART TO GET THE 60" OVER THE 48" ONE TO START WITH....AYE.....
-
PROBABLY SMART TO GET THE 60" OVER THE 48" ONE TO START WITH....AYE.....
I thought you where from NY not Canada. lol :P J/K
Stu
-
Ya mines a 60"
I'm just gonna mount it to the rear bumper horizonally for now.
When I have time to make some brakets, I'll do it vertically.
-
My Hi Lift won't lift my truck from the front, back, or nerfs.  I either lift from the bead lock ring on my rim, or directly off the axle housing.
I value my Hi lift more than my winch and I use it far more often!
Jake Palmberg
Your situation for a Suzuki is a LOT different than the rest of us here on the list. Hell, a conv 't could probably park under the belly and those axles...... :o Your use of a hi-lift is a fine example using the beadlock as it has a raised lip. If you didn't have the beadlocks (do you really need them on your weight?) would you have a hi-lift?
A hi-lift is a good tool for what it does. Don't forget, it could also be used as a winch. Just make sure you use rigid lines rather than a snatch strap where it'll stretch to a point.
-
Ya mines a 60"
I'm just gonna mount it to the rear bumper horizonally for now.
When I have time to make some brakets, I'll do it vertically.
Will it be wider than the body? Could you mount it horizontally to the tailgate under the spare? You could always as a spacer to the spare to get more room.
-
Heather I was on your web site lookin around and I have a question about that front skid plate. The one that goes from the bumper to the front diff. Did that come with the bumper or did you make it? If you made what did you use and where exactly does it attach? I am lookin for somthin like that to run on mine, I have the same bumper. Thanks and keep us informed if you go SAS.
Jacob
-
Jagular 8
said- If you didn't have the beadlocks (do you really need them on your weight?) would you have a hi-lift?
At 1.5psi you need beadlocks regardless of vehicle weight.
All of my previous zuks had 38" and bigger tires with long travel suspension, and I have always used my high lift off of the rim with or without beadlocks.
Lots of people worry about scratching the rim (chrome or aluminum), If I was really worried about that , I would quit wheeling and buy a lowered honda :o
Jake Palmberg
-
Heathers jack mount is a modified Hi Lift Bed mount for using the Hi Lift jack mounted to the side of the bed of a pickup. You can get one through you rlocal truck supplier that deals with Hi Lift jacks. I know, cause I work on her truck and have wheeled with her for years. I've been responsible for her building the snot out of her truck....hehe!
-
Heather I was on your web site lookin around and I have a question about that front skid plate. The one that goes from the bumper to the front diff. Did that come with the bumper or did you make it? If you made what did you use and where exactly does it attach? I am lookin for somthin like that to run on mine, I have the same bumper. Thanks and keep us informed if you go SAS.
Jacob
....
Which bumper? The Calmini Winch or the Procomp Prerunner?
The part that is attached currently with the Calmini bumper came with the 3" lift brackets that you can buy from them. Those lift brackets will bring the bumper to body height (seamlessly) if you have a 3" body lift, and that heavy black metal skid that comes with it is a nice addition!
The Procomp Bumper was something we bought about 2 years ago from Procomp directly for about 90$ while they were discontinuing them.
About the SAS..
Oh yes.
I will.
;D
Heather
-
Heathers jack mount is a modified Hi Lift Bed mount for using the Hi Lift jack mounted to the side of the bed of a pickup. You can get one through you rlocal truck supplier that deals with Hi Lift jacks. I know, cause I work on her truck and have wheeled with her for years. I've been responsible for her building the snot out of her truck....hehe!
Oh yes,
It's ALL YOUR FAULT!
But..
MINE will always LOOK better than YOURS! "nyah nyah"
(http://www.darkhand.org/modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_talktohand.gif)
Heather
-
So what exactly are you sayin' Heather?? :'(
And what...you finally made up your mind about the SAS?? :o :D 8) :-X