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ZUKIWORLD Discussion Forum => Suzuki 4x4 Forum => Topic started by: 92Sidekick4x4 on January 12, 2004, 02:25:44 PM
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ok i am gonna be lookin for tires soon, what kind of tires do you recomend ( i will be getting 31's or 32's) what is the best brand to get? what do you recomend?
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All depends on what type of driving you plan on doing...
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well off road some mud some snow (when it happens) and of course my kick is a daily driver as well
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a friend of mine just put a set of goodyear mtr's on from wally world they seem to do great on everything so far! and a lot cheaper than my tsl's, quieter, and wear alot better and I believe that they are lighter, weight makes a big diffrence on suzukis, he also has a set of boggers and each tire is over a hundered pounds each! so it drains alot of horse power with over four hundered pounds of tires and wheels.
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For you, Super Swamper Thornbirds. It's a great off road tire with exceptional on road manners.
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I'm going for GoodYear MTR's. Everyone I know that runs them loves the tire, ant they are awesome off road.
Zig
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I have only seen one set of MTRs in the mud and wiyh low gears they suck. they don't clean at all.
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[shadow=blue,left,300]I like my Mickys I got baja mtx on my track great all around tire :)[/shadow]
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you could go the BFG mud terrains or the Les schwab equivilent I think they are the wild cats ro something like that.
Jacob
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ya BFG's are a lot better al around tire then a mtr i have seen a locked(front & rear) Heep with 33 BFGS out wheel a sammy also locked(front & rear) with 35 MTRs. so i would go with the BFGs.
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My dad's heep has the Les Shwab equivilent of the BFGs, 33x12.50. They look esentilly the same, and it wheels awesome. It also locked front and rear though so that helps in the traction dept.
Jacob
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We run a combination of Rock, Dirt and Mud and the guys with the MTR's get alot better traction on everything but thick mud. I'm running 33x12.50 BFG MT's and they do well in the thick stuff, but when you hit loose dirt or Rock they slip alot, where MTR's grab realy good. What are you looking for in a tire? What kind of trail riding?
Zig
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[shadow=blue,left,300]I like my Mickys I got baja mtx on my track great all around tire :)[/shadow]
SAY WHAT...
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Baja mtx mickey(http://www.mickeythompsontires.com/images/radial_mtx.gif) thompson ???
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For you, Super Swamper Thornbirds.  It's a great off road tire with exceptional on road manners.
You must not like 92Sidekick4x4 very much. ;)
Thornturds are by far the WORSE off-road tire I've ever seen, made even worse on a light Zook. On road, they slip and slide when wet.
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For a good tire for a bit less money, I like my 31x10.50 Dunlop Mud Rovers. They're about $100 each installed at Sams Club if you have a membership or know someone who does. If you look at mud tire ratings on tirerack.com they're rated better by people who use them than BFG's are for treadwear etc and they cost a good deal less.
Alternately if you want another good one for a good price look at the Kumho mud tires. They can be hard to find (tirerack.com has em) but if you're in snow they might be a good option because they come with the holes for studs from the factory whereas the Dunlops don't. Kumho tires in general are a great "bang for the buck" a lot of sports car guys love their Z rated low profile tires because they're dirt cheap compared to other similar tires and perform and wear as good or better.
Nothing wrong with the BFG's but I honestly think they have way too much sidewall for our lightweight rigs as they're designed for much heavier vehicles. They also cost more and part of that is just for the name and image in my opinion.
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If you are in a bind for money you could get those Hi-Tech retreads. I think that is the brand name. They usually have an ad in the back of one of the 4 wheel drive magizines. I bought a set for my 3/4 ton dodge when I first got it and they worked fine. They where only like $65 a tire for 33x12.50. They wore out sorta fast though but that Dodge was heavy (over 7,000bs and i had them well over a year and a half) and I was rough on them off road. But on a lightweight Zuk they should do pretty good. On a side note I did have a blowout on one. I think it was partly my fault I never checked the air pressure and it wore out wierd. Where the tread and the side wall met got really thin and let go. I remeber when I went out to my car that day thinking that the tire looked wierd and was a little low but I figure it would make it till I got home, but it didnt. I got lucky, cause i dont know if you can have a blow out on the front passenger side tire at 70mph in the passing lane and not do any damage to you car to often. But I think if you pay attention to them if they start to wear out and dont push it as much as I did and try to scrape every last mile out of them you should  be fine.
Jacob
Oh they where a bfg mud terrain stlye tread and where it looked like made out of old dunlop tires.
here is an article about them
http://www.neow.org/retread.html
Thier web site
http://high-tec-retreading.com/index.html
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a friend of mine just put a set of goodyear mtr's on from wally world they seem to do great on everything so far! and a lot cheaper than my tsl's, quieter, and wear alot better and I believe that they are lighter, weight makes a big diffrence on suzukis, he also has a set of boggers and each tire is over a hundered pounds each! so it drains alot of horse power with over four hundered pounds of tires and wheels.
??? Cheaper? Quieter? Wear better? I couldnt disagree more. Im asuming that you bought a bias ply swamper. You need to compare the Swamper equivilant, the radial swamper.
Im running MTRs currently and I can say that they do have pretty good traction but...
Price
Mtr 32-11.5-15 $178
Swamper radial 32-10.5-15 $129
Milage
Several people in our club run radial swampers and 3 of us run MTRs. All of us will agree that the MTRs are not going to live past 40K. The swampers I just sold with 35K on them were at least 3/4 tread. We have a set of swampers that have been passed from rig to rig to rig.... that have aproximately 120K on them. Yes they are very low on tread but there is still tread.
As far as noise goes my radial swampers were way quieter.
And in the mud and sand they worked better than the MTR. However the MTR is far better on rocks, especially on muddy rocks. On ice the swamper needs to be siped, then it kicks ass. I dont think the tread blocks are big enough to sipe on the MTRs.
My recomendation is 32-10.5-15 radial swamper. It does well in all terrain including the street.
Mike
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I am thinking about getting a set of 30x10.5 swampers radial of course, but was wondering if they were too heavy. I run the sand alot IE I live in san diego ca. area.
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Well I like the Swampers for the desert, mud
and sandy loose stuff, but I did have more
slipage on the rocks comming out of deep creek
in Big Bear, one of the guys who runs that alot
said in his French accent, you having problems
caus zees iz a mud tire.
I don't see much snow time here so I have no
comment on snow performance, but them LTB
Swampers shed mud like nothing I've ever seen.
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i jsut put a set of bfg a/ts on my tracker, i love em. tehy awesome in teh snow rain mud dirt onroad everywhere, and the best part is on the highway they dont howl which is a good thing cause to much road noise = head ache lol. happy tire hunting
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Like Z3bra mentioned, Dunlop Mud Rovers are great tires, good traction and good tread life.
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http://www.high-tec-retreading.com. After shipping and mounting, you'll still be money ahead.
Got the 31's on my Samurai. No problems. Just have to keep some air in them.
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I'm enjoying my 31x11.50 Mickey Thompson Baja Claws... however, I will probably go to a 32x9.50 or 10.50 next set just for beter clearnace, ground-pressure, et cetera.
Whoever mentioned the thornbird, I certainly hope you were joking.
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Whoever mentioned the thornbird, I certainly hope you were joking.
I did not bring them up, but I did like mine alot better than the Cooper AT's I had on before them. But they were hard as a Rock (barely bend with 4 psi) and drug the motor down with their heavy weight. My kick pulled better when I got my 33x12.50 BFG MT's than with 29x10.50 Thornbirds (with the same gearing) :o
Zig
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Cooper Discoverer STT(http://www.coopertires.com/us/en/images/tires/large/discovererSTT.jpg)
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That Cooper looks almost exactly like the Kumho M/T. Then again the Kumho looks like one of the old General Grabbers or so I've heard.
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I have the BFG Mud Terrains on one of my trucks and the BFG A/T ko's on the other. If you use the truck as a daily driver, I'd highly recommend the A/T ko's. I have 40k miles on them and they still have half the tread. Great on pavement, snow, sand, dirt. Fair in deep mud, but they are an A/T not an M/T.
The BFG M/T's I have on my offroad truck are great for dirt, rock and mud, but their wet road and snow manners are lacking (as with almost all M/T's of any brand) compared to the A/T.
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Those SST Coopers have a more aggressive tread than the AT's I had. I think they were Cooper Discover LT ???
Zig
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I must agree the Kumho Power gaurd M/T is a superior tire for the price i owned a set about two years ago and they are sweet!now if you are lookin for a good non radial th TSL SX is nice it has alot a side bite good for those ruts and the skinny axles and byfar a good snow tire and they clean up nice in the MUD though not so good on wet or muddy rocks ......
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I went with 235/75-15 Cooper Discoverer AT's because of the snow and ice we have around here.
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I m very satisfied with my Yokohama Geolandar 30X9,5X15 M/T's.Very good on wet road,mud,rocks,snow.No damage till now ( 20000km)