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ZUKIWORLD Discussion Forum => Suzuki 4x4 Forum => Topic started by: Mac on January 13, 2004, 03:25:40 PM
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Anyone done this, my thought is the whole engine harness, computer, and maybe the dash and gauge cluster, the 16v has a speed sensor ??? the cost could be less and still more power than an 8v with all the goodies.
Thanks
Mac
P.S. can any one clarify when the 16v's came out I thought it was 92 in the 4dr and 94 in the 2dr's
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I thought about this a while back, and all of the information I received confirmed all of your statements above. I was thinking that someone brought up something about the fuel pump or lines also, but I can not remember what it was. The definately said that the motor, harness & ecu need to be transplanted, but I think the cluster would be fine :-/
Zig
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Are you guys aware of the power and RPM of the 16V. when i saw that it scared me so far away from doing that. now i'm just going to work with what i have and see what i come out with when the dust settles. lata stu
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Yea, that was the main reason I still have a 8V. I like the lower end power and torque range. I'll end up just re-building it or geting another ;)
Zig
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Ok how far would you go with the cam, isky torquer or z330, I feel you could get away with z330 with out the other hardware on the 1.6 it would never rev like a 1.3 to be a problem with valve float. I ran the Calmini cam in my Sami 1.6 and it helped but it could use a more agressive grind.
Mac
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what are you runing for a rig and engine mac?
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you're better off welding injector bungs on the intake runner running the four new injectors in parallel off of the old injector wire, using a large throttle plate off a vortec 4.3. Way less restriction that way. basically convering to efi setup.
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what are you runing for a rig and engine mac?
STU, (http:// http://members.shaw.ca/colin.mackay/kick_front.jpg ) 1.6 L 4 Cylinder 8 valve with intake
6" Calmini Super articulation combo lift
Auto Transmission
5.13 gears (open), for now, 12 bolt rear
New 32x9.50 Interco Super Swampers, undecided rims, running BFG 31 x 10.5's on 8" rim
Calmini Steering stabilizer, and front skid plate, not installed yet, power steering , Tilt, cruise, Power windows, Power Locks, Power mirrors, hardtop and soft top
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Mac has 32 swampers on his rig now.
He sold those BFG's to me.  ;D
(my kick)
(http://www3.telus.net/kreg/Zooks/After2.jpg)
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Hows it go with the auto?
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It runs great because of the factory 4.62 with the auto the 5.13 out of the manual make for a cheap gearing upgrade from the wreckers. It is my first auto truck and I am loving it, on the hills it kick but over the standard, going down I do miss letting 1st gear carry me down, the auto does not engine brake as well.
Mac
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Hey one big click on my web page icon, and you can see the rig.
Mac
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Thats one sweet sammy.
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now this 16 valve head every one is talking about is it the twin cam GTI head from a suzi swift cause i hear there easy to swap in all you need is a timing belt from a honda (well asides from the wiring harness which is the scarry part in my books)
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No the 1.3 16V twin cam head is not the same,
the Kick 16V head is a single cam, and you can
use the stock belts for the 1.6 16V kick, the block
is the same 16A if I remember right, so the 16V
head is a bolt on option for you.
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Thats one sweet sammy.
YEA BUT HE SOLD THAT...LOOK AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE AND CLICK ON THE SIDE KICK EMBLEM ....FOR HIS CURRENT RIDE........
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ok i got this off www.ssgti.com
this is to swap the 1.6 bottom end into a car with the 1.3 doch and were 1 up on this one cause we dont have to swap the bottom end just throw the head on the belt on and throw the wiring harness in (has any one done this in a tracker)
Doing this conversion is only worthwhile if you have already gotten the max power out of your GTi's G13B and still crave more, but don't want to go the turbo route. For those of you who have a standard swift your better of just getting the GTi's G13B and bolting that in.
The benefits of such a conversion are :
A) Increased hp (about 120-160hp depending on the mods)
B) Increased torque (good for when you want to drive in 5th around town =)
The disadvantages to the conversion are :
A) Increase frontal weight area (minimal though)
B) Can't rev the engine as high due to the weaker G16A bottom end (stick to 6500rpm max for safety)
Ok so here's a brief list of what needs to be done to complete the conversion :
1) Get a G16A from the Swift Sedan/sidekick/vitara.
2) Use a 1.8 mm sidekick/vitara headgasket to lower compression to 10:1
3) Since the 1.6 block is 30 mm higher you will need to get a taller cam belt (get one from a belt supplier or try a honda 1.6 dohc belt)
4) Custum cam belt covers will also need to be made.
5) The transmission will have to be removed and the block will have to be welded to cover up it's existing holes and new holes should be drilled to match up to the transmissions existing holes.
When welding you have to be very careful not to distort the block.
6) New engine mounts must be fabricated to mount the 1.6's block.
7) Rebuilding of the oil pump may also be needed to provide enough pressure.
8) To control the ignition/fuel/air the ecu will need reprogramming.