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Title: i need some help asap please
Post by: Mike71 on January 05, 2004, 05:19:58 AM
i was changing the battery terminals on my 91 track 8v today...so all i did was cut off the old ends and strip the wires then feed the wire into the new terminals and bolt it back to the battery..i took the battery out to try and stuff the bigger one i have =) deep cycle in..but that was a no go

when i set the batt thats in the car now down i set it on the pavement for mabey 2 mins then moved it to the door matt then i put it back in the car

....i cant think of any other information to give

i checked the 4 fuses right by the batt on the pass side of the car and they are fine i then checked all fuses under the dash on the drivers side...is there any other fuses to check?
i need some help asap this is my only car and i think i broke it :(
Title: Re: i need some help asap please
Post by: 6feetofAIR on January 05, 2004, 06:01:08 AM
well if its anything like the samurai then i would suggest looking for a small wire connected to the positive terminal, the fusable link. when i got my truck i had no power whatsoever and i couldnt find anything wrong with it, my friend came by and pointed out the fusable link was fried even though you couldnt tell very well, replaced it with a piece of wire and everything worked.
Title: Re: i need some help asap please
Post by: lil_Truck on January 05, 2004, 06:03:28 AM
Is the motor not turning over?

When you turn on your lights do they come on?  When you say you checked the fuses, does that mean with a volt meter or did you pull them out and look at them?

First check to see if you missed a wire.  Most of the time there's more than one going to the batt. terminals.

If that's ok trace down the batt lead and make sure their making good contact.  Maby moving the cables around might have made the ground go bad or loosened the conection at the starter?
Title: Re: i need some help asap please
Post by: Mike71 on January 05, 2004, 06:17:19 AM
theres no juice at all...its like theres no batt in the car when u turn the ignition

whats a fuseable link??

u know what :(..i think mabey when i first tossed the batt in i had it backwards :( did i blow up my car? :( :'(

it hassent been a good day today..so im not trusting my judgement at all so even the most inanie things might be wrong i dont know..i checked teh fuses and  turned the dome light on then giggled the wires near the batt but still nothing

im also not sure but i think before when i cleaned the batt i took the pos off first so when i went to recconect it it sparked...i cant get it to spark or make a poping noise at all..like when u giggle the terminal

edit..i checked the fuses by pulling them and looking at them i dont have access to a volt meter..its in my list of things i need

oh the whole reason i did this was because my car wouldnt start at a shell one day so i got out turned the pos terminal 90 degrees got back in and it started...dont know if that will help..my luck i just destroyed the car
Title: Re: i need some help asap please
Post by: TN_Tracker on January 05, 2004, 06:59:55 AM
Sounds like you smoked the battery and not the Tracker.
Title: Re: i need some help asap please
Post by: lil_Truck on January 05, 2004, 07:32:16 AM
Have you tryed to jump it from another car?
Title: Re: i need some help asap please
Post by: Mike71 on January 05, 2004, 08:11:43 AM
well theres not another car to try..i dont want to try it with my moms car since she needs it today

now the batt that i mixed up was a diff one then is in the car right now

if i connect a floresent light to the batt i use tow work  under the hood it will light up
Title: Re: i need some help asap please
Post by: lil_Truck on January 05, 2004, 08:23:35 AM
A way to check the ground side is to take the jumper wires.  Hook it up to the battery and conect the other end to the motor or another part of the frame.  This will give you another ground to test the vehicle one.

Next strat tracing down the wiring.  You'll have one big wire to the starter and another one either coming off the battery or the starter.  See if you can find a hidden fuse or a bad fuseable link (a fuseable link is a piece of wire made to melt in half to protect the rest of the electrical system).  Just look for a burnt wire.

Other than that get you a volt meter or 12 volt test light and just keep checking stuff.

Good luck.
Title: Re: i need some help asap please
Post by: Mike71 on January 05, 2004, 08:28:30 AM
so the power wire from the batt goes to the starter first? i think mabey a fuseable link..but would they put the fuseable link inside the sheathing or insulation for the wires?
Title: Re: i need some help asap please
Post by: lil_Truck on January 05, 2004, 08:45:51 AM
I have a 96 Tracker 16 valve.  I looked at mine and I have two wires coming off the battery.  Right in front of the battery is a couple of relays and a larger fuse box.  There's a 80 amp fuse that says battery on it.

Did you check that fuse?  If that's blown nothing will work.
Title: Re: i need some help asap please
Post by: lil_Truck on January 05, 2004, 08:46:34 AM
Also with that fuse I don't think you'll have a fuseable link to worry about.
Title: Re: i need some help asap please
Post by: Mike71 on January 05, 2004, 08:56:48 AM
thats not good cause i dont think that fuse is blown :(..how do i tell if its blown..also do u have AIM or msn or anything =)
Title: Re: i need some help asap please
Post by: Mike71 on January 05, 2004, 08:59:59 AM
omg omg omg =) i love u so much right now lil truck..in a non gay way =-) lol
theres a yellow 60amp fuse near the battery its the one closest to the batt it looks like its cracked in the middle...but i cant get it out i pulled and nothing i think mabey i have to undo the screws



i hope its that i was almost sick because my car was broken

thank u so much for helping me ur a life saver
Title: Re: i need some help asap please
Post by: Mike71 on January 05, 2004, 09:09:01 AM
whew...see i have a job interview for senator ford today...i ALSO have a date with a girl i really really like tonite ...i had to postpone our last date to help a friend so id imagine if i had to postpone again id be in trouble...=) im off to cragens right now thanks again thank you very much u ever need anything let me know ill drive 3kmiles to help u install a BL or something..i mean that to  ;D
Title: Re: i need some help asap please
Post by: lil_Truck on January 05, 2004, 09:21:31 AM
Glad I could help.  Good luck with the job interview and the date.   ::)
Title: Re: i need some help asap please
Post by: Mike71 on January 05, 2004, 09:53:33 AM
lol im gunna need the luck =)..its all working now..good thing i decided to disconect my amp b4 i started working i might have burnt that up

so lesson to this story is...read before doing..not after u break it lol
Title: Re: i need some help asap please
Post by: NY_SIDEKICKER on January 05, 2004, 12:15:47 PM
u know what ..i think mabey when i first tossed the batt in i had it backwards  did i blow up my car?  
  MAN DO I REMEMBER THE DAY WHEN I USED TO CRINGE AT EVERY LITTLE TASK... IT GETS BETTER WITH TIME.... ;D HOPE ALL GOES WELL   HOPE YOU REMEMBERED TO FILL THE GAS TANK  ::)
Title: Re: i need some help asap please
Post by: Mike71 on January 05, 2004, 05:08:33 PM
gas tanks full. just for some reason when i goto use the windshiel wipes it smells like gas and the windshiel gets oily?? hmm  ;D j.k

i have a story =)...me and my gf went to AZ last febuary well i checked the oil at home and told her she was low so wed have to buy a quart...so she wants to take controll and do it herself so i just ler her..she runs to the store buys 1 guart...gets the right kind and everything so i figure shes got it handeled...mabey 20mins later she comes back in and tells me the level of oil on the dipstick hassent changed..i was like wtf..so she said she added another quart.. im like 2 quarts the thing should be more then full..

so i go out yep sure enough hassent changed??...just to give her some shit im like u did put it in here right..shes kinda looks away and says no there..thats where u pointed...i look over and the windshield washer fluid is brownish black and theres oil all over the outside =) i change and add oil for her now
Title: Re: i need some help asap please
Post by: mrfuelish on January 06, 2004, 05:16:27 AM
I knew a guy in High School auto shop that changed the filter and put five quarts of oil down the carburator. ;Dand no it was'nt me.
Title: Re: i need some help asap please
Post by: ebewley on January 06, 2004, 06:07:48 AM
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I knew a guy in High School auto shop that changed the filter and put five quarts of oil down the carburator. ;Dand no it was'nt me.


Are you sure? :)

-Eric
Title: Re: i need some help asap please
Post by: mrfuelish on January 06, 2004, 07:17:42 AM
Are you kidding, I wouldn't get my truck near auto shop, they used to put bondo in the door lock's and other things like that. it ran 13 sec in the quarter I used to do in the v8 vegas ;D the nova that me and a friend had ran 9.8 in the quarter but was not street legal. not bad for high school in the mid 70's (i know i'm old)
Title: Re: i need some help asap please
Post by: Mike71 on January 06, 2004, 08:07:12 AM
Quote from: mrfuelish not bad for high school in the mid 70's (i know i'm old)[/quote


is that dust u just farted? hahah j.k =)
Title: Re: i need some help asap please
Post by: 95XL7 on January 06, 2004, 08:11:53 AM
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Are you kidding, I wouldn't get my truck near auto shop, they used to put bondo in the door lock's and other things like that. it ran 13 sec in the quarter I used to do in the v8 vegas ;D the nova that me and a friend had ran 9.8 in the quarter but was not street legal. not bad for high school in the mid 70's (i know i'm old)

Good someone here thats older than me  :o ;D
Title: Re: i need some help asap please
Post by: NY_SIDEKICKER on January 06, 2004, 12:08:09 PM
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gas tanks full. just for some reason when i goto use the windshiel wipes it smells like gas and the windshiel gets oily?? hmm  ;D j.k

i have a story =)...me and my gf went to AZ last febuary well i checked the oil at home and told her she was low so wed have to buy a quart...so she wants to take controll and do it herself so i just ler her..she runs to the store buys 1 guart...gets the right kind and everything so i figure shes got it handeled...mabey 20mins later she comes back in and tells me the level of oil on the dipstick hassent changed..i was like wtf..so she said she added another quart.. im like 2 quarts the thing should be more then full..

so i go out yep sure enough hassent changed??...just to give her some shit im like u did put it in here right..shes kinda looks away and says no there..thats where u pointed...i look over and the windshield washer fluid is brownish black and theres oil all over the outside =) i change and add oil for her now
      ;D   :o   ;D   :o  ;D
Title: Re: i need some help asap please
Post by: SpinalTap on January 06, 2004, 12:16:09 PM
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Are you kidding, I wouldn't get my truck near auto shop, they used to put bondo in the door lock's and other things like that. it ran 13 sec in the quarter I used to do in the v8 vegas ;D the nova that me and a friend had ran 9.8 in the quarter but was not street legal. not bad for high school in the mid 70's (i know i'm old)


I had a Vega GT with 327 & 2pd powerglide, Monza Spyder rear end..sold it almost 20yrs ago now...any time my wife gets on me about doin stuff to the Sunrunner I just tell her that I could build another Vega..the silence is deafening ;)