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ZUKIWORLD Discussion Forum => Suzuki 4x4 Forum => Topic started by: Samurai_Hamster on November 08, 2003, 12:38:24 AM
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Just got back from the tire place today. Come to find out the rims I got are not totally true. The balance machine has a dial indicator on there and I got to watch the whole process. Lots more advanced adaptors than when I balanced tires as a petroleum transfer engineer.
Anyway, instead of the cone mount, this place had an adaptor that allowed the wheel to be mounted on five studs and torqued down. I saw the runout; three rims were a tad out of runout, the fourth was worse. The guy did a credible job but did tell me he's seen lots of rims over the last few years, particularly Toyota & Chrysler where the lug holes and/or the center hole is not cast properly. This means the rim will never be in dynamic balance. He got me pretty close and the ride is much improved although there is still some vibration at 45 or so.
No charge and they were fast and truthful. By allowing me to see what was going on , I felt more comfortable that I was not getting a line of bull.
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Sound like it's time to go custom to me if you can afford it. :-/
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I've got a set of rims that run true if you're interested ;D
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Ohhhhhhhh guys, you're killing me! I am short of funds, holidays, the new tires.............................. :-[
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I bought a set of rims from Summit Racing and they have the same exact problem. Mine are so bad that people stop me to tell me that my tire looks like its gonna fall off. I'm thinking of just going back to my stock rims and 1"spacers. What a waste of $400 dollars...Summit wouldn't listen to my complaint because I already mounted the tires. :'(
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LOL my problem is the bent axle flange,
the rim never bent, it was the axle LOL
go figure, I mean it was only a 80 pound
rock I tore up out of the riverbed when I
was doing that donut :P
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What a waste of $400 dollars...Summit wouldn't listen to my complaint because I already mounted the tires.  :'(
WELL HOW ELSE WOULD YOU KNOW IF THE WHEELS WERE MESSED UP :-/ ...IF YOU DIDN'T USE THEM......SOUNDS LIKE SUMMITT NEEDS A LITTLE BETTER CUSTOMER RELATIONS :o...CAUSE ITS STORIES YOU HERE LIKE THIS THAT MAY MAKE YOU CHOOSE A COMPETITIVE VENDOR ::)...WHEN 2 SEEM TO BE EQUALLY A GOOD DEAL ...IT THEN GOES TO WHAT YOU'VE HEARD OF VENDORS IN QUESTION.........SOUNDS LIKE POOR SERVICE SUMMIT :'(
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Hamster, did it shake before the coopers were put on? If not then they are full of it. Also, The adapter they are useing to balance by the lug nut holes are famous for being crap. I dont belive that BS. Ive never seen an aluminum zuki wheel spin anything other than perfect.
Mike
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For MIke Hagen:
No, did not shake
Also these tires are on steel, not aluminum rims.
Third, these tires are mounted on 4 rims I got from a guy in State College who took them off his 2000 Vitara and put on aftermarket alloy wheels.
Sooooooooooo.............the saga continues......... :-/
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By design, no steel wheel is perfectly round. I still think its BS. Have a different tire put on. Id bet anything its the tires.
Mike
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ya think?
I did see the wheel on the machine and there is out of round to the rim......just a tad, you have to watch closely to actually see it.
Hmmmmmmmm...............can you come out here and take a spin in mine for kicks? ha ha ha.......bring your buggy and we'll go off road! ;D
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I'd bet on the tires too. My stock Sammy wheels are waaay out of true (not the ones I'm selling), and the truck still drove fine on them when properly balanced.
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I wonder how I can advance the arguement its the tires? Maybe I should go back .............with a baseball bat!
Or threaten them to lie down while Mike Hagen jumps over them in his tracker!
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go to another shop and have them mount your spare on that rim, drive around in the rim with spare. If it fixes the problem, return to the Cooper tire shop tell them what you did, that they are full of %$#|removethispart|@ and you want a new &^%$ tire >:(
Zig
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The steel rims that I have are actually two pieces, one piece is the round metal rim and the other piece is the center section.  I think that the problem is caused because the center section wasn't welded on very straight.  They do wobble a lot, but I have had no vibration problems on the highway.
 WELL HOW ELSE WOULD YOU KNOW IF THE WHEELS WERE MESSED UP :-/ ...IF YOU DIDN'T USE THEM......SOUNDS LIKE SUMMITT NEEDS A LITTLE BETTER CUSTOMER RELATIONS :o...CAUSE ITS STORIES YOU HERE LIKE THIS THAT MAY MAKE YOU CHOOSE A COMPETITIVE VENDOR ::)...WHEN 2 SEEM TO BE EQUALLY A GOOD DEAL ...IT THEN GOES TO WHAT YOU'VE HEARD OF VENDORS IN QUESTION.........SOUNDS LIKE POOR SERVICE SUMMIT  :'(
Thats what I told Summit.. >:(  Who the #$%^ would ever check to see if a wheel was true or not before mounting a tire. ???  Well, they did offer to take a look at them, but only if I could clean them up and make them look brand new.  Also, they said that if they did not find any problems with them they would send them back with the shipping at my cost.  Thats crazy because then the shipping would end up costing more then the rims themselves.
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Soon as I get the chance I am going to grab the spare rim I bought, have the cooper tire put on there and balanced and see what happens.
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THEY ALLWAYS SEEM TO HAVE A LOOP HOLE OUT...CAUSE LETS FACE IT IF YOU THINK ITS JUST GONNA COST YOU MORE MONEY THEN YOU'VE ALLREADY WASTED...WHY BOTHER :-/
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Well I had planned to do the rim swap this Sat but managed to get talked into going to camp at Leeper to hunt grouse and pheasant.
So...........I guess it'll have to wait.
I hope I have better luck getting a bird than I do with tires these days. :(
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Today I went to a goodyear dealer and swapped out the "suspect" rim for the extra rim I bought. THis extra rim was the spare from the guy's rig.
So far, the vibration seems ok. I will continue to monitor. It seemed at its worst when the vehicle has been sitting for a while in cool weather, kinda like the tires are getting flat spots. That I have seen before and junkstone seemed to be the worst (my company tarus had them once)
We'll see.
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HHMMMMM...AND THE SAGA CONTINUES :-/ ITS AMAZING HOW MUCH LITTLE THINGS CAN BECOME LONG DRAWN OUT PAIN IN THE A$$ES GOOD LUCK HAMSTER ....MATTY D. 8)
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What amazes me is the prior rim, I saw with my own eyes on the balancer being spun. Yes, it was a tad out of round, a bit of a wobble but I never woulda thunk it causing so much darn vibration. ???
As I said, this rim is the extra one from the guy, a spare, and its never been on a rig until today. We'll see. ???
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I bought a set of rims from Summit Racing and they have the same exact problem.  Mine are so bad that people stop me to tell me that my tire looks like its gonna fall off.  I'm thinking of just going back to my stock rims and 1"spacers.  What a waste of $400 dollars...Summit wouldn't listen to my complaint because I already mounted the tires.  :'(
Ummm thanks. Alot. Seriously. My friend was about to purchase some rims from Summit. But, thanks to you, you possibly prevented a problem before it started.