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Title: Remote Tracker part 2
Post by: Samurai_Hamster on November 07, 2003, 09:07:03 AM
I just got the camo model.  I am taking it to work Monday and a co worker will take pix for me with her camera.

I hope to get some action shots, some flex shots, and some shots in the air.......just like Mike Hagen!

So there ya go Hagen, you aren't the only one who can put a tracker in the air. ;D :P :D
Title: Re: Remote Tracker part 2
Post by: Samurai_Hamster on November 07, 2003, 11:07:17 AM
Ok, I just got back from tipping a few cold ones, got this rig out of the box and WTF?????????Noooooooo IFS?  How am I gonna get the suspension flex that everyone craves?

Oh, I forgot batteries so I am raiding the remotes, smoke alarm etc to I can see what this thing will do. :o


***************Update(**************

Had to go to the store as the 9V in the smoke alarm was DOA...........soooooooooooo..........

Here we go.

1.  Low end torque is virtually non existent.  Runs better wide open on smooth parking lots.
2.  There is  a h/l switch that controls the  speed of the motor.  Moving it to low just makes it slower.
3.  Won't climb a 5.5 inch 30 degree asphalt grade in my parking lot, no matter if I rock crawl it or take a flying run.
4.  Turns only in reverse and has a pull to the left, some deft linkage adjustment might cure this.
5.  Takes 6 aa and one 9V battery.  Lots of weight here.
6.  IF you touch the wire antenna, the rig stops.  Must not like the moisture-on-the-skin thing.
7.  No IFS.  Flexing is out of the question here short of some serious chassis mods.
8.  Fake v-8 engine is gay looking; more appropriate in a full size truck than a trucklet like this.
9.  Reverse is half speed of forward.
10.  No tracker decals anywhere......just some nutz-o stuff.
11. Ground clearance is just so-so.....mine got stuck on a pine cone.
12.  No headlights......thus why I got stuck on a pine cone at night.


That's it.  I will play around with this and probably either break it or give it to the salvation army.  Or, if I am really motivated after studying for yet another OS certification, I might yank the motor and see if I can give it some testosterone to get really airborne.  Might try to rig up a steering device or at least figure out the toe in settings so this thing will track straight.  
What the hell, it was all of 10 bucks and I spent more on beer tonight than this toy. :o


*************FYI*****************************

Here is the addy of the company that makes this rig.

Well-Tech Toys Company Limited
Room 1004, Chinachem Golden Plaza,
No. 77 Mody Road, Tsim Sha Tsui, Kowloon,
Hong Kong
Tel.: (852) 2481 0168
Fax.: (852) 2481 0755
Email: info|removethispart|@welltechtoys.com
Web Site: www.mbmags.com/welltechtoys
Key Executive for Contacts
Ms. Queenie Yau
Director
Title: Re: Remote Tracker part 2
Post by: Kreg on November 07, 2003, 12:16:35 PM
hahah sounds like quite the rig  :P

All this RC talk got me thinking.

I got a Team Losi RC off road truck. This thing kicks ass (even though it has 4 corner Indi suspension  :-/ )  I want to find (or make) a shell that looks like a tracker to fit over it.

The shells on these trucks are thin plastic, and when you buy them they are clear so you can paint them any way you want.  8)

I think it would be dope to make it look like a tracker. I'll paint it up just like mine, it'll be my mini me.   ;D

Title: Re: Remote Tracker part 2
Post by: TN_Tracker on November 07, 2003, 01:17:02 PM
samurai_hamster,
I agree that the vitals of this thing are pretty lame but to find a tracker toy and for $10, I'm pretty happy. I really wanted it for looks anyway. I've stripped the decals, bought some black paint and will use my testors decal maker software to make it look presentable. I agree the fake V-8 blows and mine is already removed.
;D
Title: Re: Remote Tracker part 2
Post by: NY_SIDEKICKER on November 07, 2003, 01:26:27 PM
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Ok, I just got back from tipping a few cold ones, got this rig out of the box and WTF?????????Noooooooo IFS?  How am I gonna get the suspension flex that everyone craves?

Oh, I forgot batteries so I am raiding the remotes, smoke alarm etc to I can see what this thing will do. :o


***************Update(**************

Had to go to the store as the 9V in the smoke alarm was DOA...........soooooooooooo..........

Here we go.

1.  Low end torque is virtually non existent.  Runs better wide open on smooth parking lots.
2.  There is  a h/l switch that controls the  speed of the motor.  Moving it to low just makes it slower.
3.  Won't climb a 5.5 inch 30 degree asphalt grade in my parking lot, no matter if I rock crawl it or take a flying run.
4.  Turns only in reverse and has a pull to the left, some deft linkage adjustment might cure this.
5.  Takes 6 aa and one 9V battery.  Lots of weight here.
6.  IF you touch the wire antenna, the rig stops.  Must not like the moisture-on-the-skin thing.
7.  No IFS.  Flexing is out of the question here short of some serious chassis mods.
8.  Fake v-8 engine is gay looking; more appropriate in a full size truck than a trucklet like this.
9.  Reverse is half speed of forward.
10.  No tracker decals anywhere......just some nutz-o stuff.
11. Ground clearance is just so-so.....mine got stuck on a pine cone.
12.  No headlights......thus why I got stuck on a pine cone at night.


That's it.  I will play around with this and probably either break it or give it to the salvation army.  Or, if I am really motivated after studying for yet another OS certification, I might yank the motor and see if I can give it some testosterone to get really airborne.  Might try to rig up a steering device or at least figure out the toe in settings so this thing will track straight.  
What the hell, it was all of 10 bucks and I spent more on beer tonight than this toy. :o


*************FYI*****************************

Here is the addy of the company that makes this rig.

Well-Tech Toys Company Limited
Room 1004, Chinachem Golden Plaza,
No. 77 Mody Road, Tsim Sha Tsui, Kowloon,
Hong Kong
Tel.: (852) 2481 0168
Fax.: (852) 2481 0755
Email: info|removethispart|@welltechtoys.com
Web Site: www.mbmags.com/welltechtoys
Key Executive for Contacts
Ms. Queenie Yau
Director
 MAYBE THEY OUGHT TO HAVE YOU DO REVIEWS FOR THERE PRODUCTS  ;D  BEST REVIEW I'VE EVER SEEN ON TOY  :o  MAYBE YOU FOUND YOUR OWN LITTLE NICHE  ::) ...........OH YEA AND DON'T FORGET TO REPLACE THE BATTERIES IN YOUR SMOKE DETECTOR  ;) P.S.  MAYBE YOU'LL WANT TO CHECK THEM ALL FROM THE SOUNDS OF IT.......... 8)
Title: Re: Remote Tracker part 2
Post by: Samurai_Hamster on November 07, 2003, 01:31:58 PM
The concept here is good.......I like the body but already I am thinking of junking the Chairman Mao motor and getting one from one of those balls out remote cars, say a 9.6v unit or perhaps a B&D cordless drill?  ANyway, I think I know a guy who can fab up a driveshaft and if I can build a Tcase, I can getr real 4WD on this thing.  run a straight axle, presto!  There's the locker.   Fix up a servo motor from someplace and presto again, I have real steering  ;D
Tomorrow I am junking the v-8 motor.  Its just overkill here.  Might even gain some speed?  Less weight?

I tried to launch it off a 2x6.......it was uh.........well kinda weak.  Played holy hell just keeping it on there.   I found a large sheet of plywood and a cinder block.  Tried to get some speed going to get a nice launch.......and plop.  Ok, I find a hill, get the thing going but its geared in such a way that it won't freewheel enough to really gather speed.......another plop.  So much for redlining this thing.  Finally, in a fit of frustration as well as the inate male desire to "see what'll she do" , I took it up stairs, got a decent run......and let it go end over end over end.  Oddly, the only thing that broke was one of the header pipes off that god awful motor.  No biggie.  Its outta there tomorrow anyway.

Oh to be a kid again..............

Sorry Mike Hagen.....looks like you are still the air king........for now anyway!
Title: Re: Remote Tracker part 2
Post by: NY_SIDEKICKER on November 07, 2003, 01:48:36 PM
ROTFLMAO  ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Remote Tracker part 2
Post by: Samurai_Hamster on November 07, 2003, 02:17:17 PM
Ok, I tore this thing down........wow.........talk about weak stuff.   The motor is like those you see in kids clocks or something and there isn't enough room in there with all the gears to really beef this thing up.  ALso the hi/lo range is a joke!    I figured high is about 50:1 ratio ( I was too pie eyed to count ALL the gears) and low is about 65:1  no wonder this thing maxes out so early.   I tried to fit a plastic gear from an old football clock I had but no go.  The center hole is too big for the shaft and I could not get the glue to sit up enough to hold it on the shaft.  At least its a locker......sort of......uh....well ok is a straight axle anyway!

Can't do anything with the steering, not enough room in the chassis to put a servo motor to make it really steer.

Only thing I managed to do was yank the dorky chrome motor, the over size bumper, and I put 3./4 spacers to lift it a bit.  So now I have a .75 lift.  Pretty good huh?  My first lifted tracker!

I might try to see if I can wire up a 14.4 bat pack in there to replace the 6 1.5 AA bats. Right now that's 9.0 volts and I bet this critter would really hum with 14.4 in there.  LIke MIke Hagen says, redline all the time.  Just gotta figure out how to do it.

I also figured out some neat slides.......get it on concrete, go balls out forward then slam the trigger on the control piece into reverse........you can get about 3 inches of slide that way.
Title: Re: Remote Tracker part 2
Post by: SpinalTap on November 08, 2003, 02:59:32 AM
This is hilarious!! I've been wanting to get an RC truck for a while...and you guys have just made that itch itchier ;) Hmmm....there's a hobby shop on the way home from work....
Title: Re: Remote Tracker part 2
Post by: hcgalvin on November 08, 2003, 07:15:43 AM
hey, you guys should see this vid, it's taken in australia, and is about monster RC trucks. They take the videos, and give it sound effects to make it seem like they are "real" trucks crawling over real rocks. LOL (the vids are kinda big though)

Here:

http://www.orp.com.au/rc_madness.htm

:)

Heather
Title: Re: Remote Tracker part 2
Post by: Samurai_Hamster on November 08, 2003, 07:57:03 AM
I like this.  Where does one get one of those rigs?
Title: Re: Remote Tracker part 2
Post by: NY_SIDEKICKER on November 08, 2003, 10:54:21 AM
FOR A REAL R/C TOY,YOU NEED TO GO TO A REAL TOY & HOBBY SPECIALTY SHOP :o....NO NOT KBEES OR TOYS R US  ;D A SHOP THAT SPECIALIZES IN BIG BOY TOYS  ::)  BUT BE PREPARED CAUSE THERE A BIT PRICEY FOR A TOY :'(
Title: Re: Remote Tracker part 2
Post by: Samurai_Hamster on November 08, 2003, 10:58:53 AM
I'll get one only if they promise that it will grab some serious air!  
I mean it has to fly further than MIke Hagen every dreamed of! ;D
Title: Re: Remote Tracker part 2
Post by: Kreg on November 08, 2003, 12:57:08 PM
ya man, my Team Losi truck kicks serious but.

I launched it over a 3 foot x 3 foot power box on my old lawn.

I used a small piece of wood propped up on a brick for the ramp. Phat air!

If you get an electric one though (like i have) make sure you buy at least 2 batteries because they only last about 12 minutes.  So when ones being used you can have the other on the charger for non stop action  ;D
Title: Re: Remote Tracker part 2
Post by: bandit86 on November 08, 2003, 01:49:10 PM
if this works you will run and buy one.  
http://showcase.netins.net/web/isuguy/housejump.wmv
Title: Re: Remote Tracker part 2
Post by: HotRod on November 08, 2003, 01:58:25 PM
 With all the R/C bodies out there, someone has to make a Sidekick body to fit a T-max.
Title: Re: Remote Tracker part 2
Post by: Zuki One on November 08, 2003, 04:44:55 PM
Well all you sidekick and tracker fans i have your wet dream yes including your T-max body go down to your local Rite-Aid yup $10 whole dollars i said it 10 bucks for a R/C tracker they are in the seasonal cheap christmas gifts and its huge its big it comes in yellow,pink&fl.green! ;Dthey also have this lil stomper track that comes with a suzuki stomper and yes i said and a samurai police suv with action figures they are all 10BUCKS :o who would have known that Rite-Aid would be the suzuki headequarters for the holiday season? so go go get your ZUKI ;D
Title: Re: Remote Tracker part 2
Post by: 99Trackerconv on November 08, 2003, 06:48:19 PM
That video is awesome!!! :o Never thought you could jump a house 8)
Title: Re: Remote Tracker part 2
Post by: Zukipilot on November 08, 2003, 10:13:35 PM
Kreg,
If you find a Tracker body let me know. I run a HPI full time 4x4 with a top speed of 47-48MPH with my racing motor :o It awesome. It came with a Ford Pre-runner body and I have been looking for a kick body.

Hamster,
You can get most any pro model rc and get all of the air you want. My rc is built for racing and will get serious air. The latest RC crase is setting them up for rock crawling 8) I'm running electric but am thinking of switching to gas (longer run time). You can build these however you want (gears, motors, tires, lift, and even Lockers 8)
Later,
Zig
Title: Re: Remote Tracker part 2
Post by: Samurai_Hamster on November 08, 2003, 10:53:01 PM
Wow.......this is killer, and the babe in the white tank top isn't bad either.  

I'd  choose her over the RC car though! ::)
Title: Re: Remote Tracker part 2
Post by: UberAsuna on November 10, 2003, 05:38:08 AM
OMG i just found my christams present :P
plz plzplz link to where i get one of them
Title: Re: Remote Tracker part 2
Post by: Crabzuki on November 10, 2003, 11:37:30 AM
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if this works you will run and buy one.  
[url]http://showcase.netins.net/web/isuguy/housejump.wmv[/url]


What the car or the QT in the white tank top with form fitting hip huggers?  ;D
Title: Re: Remote Tracker part 2
Post by: NY_SIDEKICKER on November 11, 2003, 02:00:14 PM
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if this works you will run and buy one.  
[url]http://showcase.netins.net/web/isuguy/housejump.wmv[/url]

I FINALLY GOT MY MEDIA PLAYER TO WORK  ::) MAN THAT THINGS TOUG 40 FEET OF AIR AND TAKE OFF RUNNING ON THE OTHER SIDE,,I'M IMPRESSED....
Title: Re: Remote Tracker part 2
Post by: UberAsuna on November 12, 2003, 07:04:57 AM
can someone provide a link where we can buy or get info on GAZ powered 4x4 RC trucks ??? any kind jeep zuki or whatever as long as its 4x4 and i can have fun climbing stuff cause battery powered aint wort POO when it come to climb stuff or even on grass it goes so slow ... thx
Title: Re: Remote Tracker part 2
Post by: bandit86 on November 12, 2003, 07:07:57 AM
battery is not slow.  THey're almost as fast as gas, you just dont have the flexibility of adding a bigger tank and playing longer, you're stuck at whatever your battery gives
Title: Re: Remote Tracker part 2
Post by: Kreg on November 12, 2003, 11:56:25 AM
If you buy a battery powered truck.  Make sure you buy at least 2 batteries. (3 is optimum) That way when your using one, you can have the other on the charger so when the one your using dies you can just switch them up and continue on your merry way.  


The good thing about battery powered trucks is that there’s way less tinkering in order to have fun.

My friend had a gas powered truck and he always had to adjust stuff on the engine in order to make it run at its full potential.

Where as my battery powered truck, all you have to do is plug in the battery, hit the on switch, then your racing around like a bat out of hell. And don’t let the electric power fool you.  These things  fly (literally  ;) )
Title: Re: Remote Tracker part 2
Post by: UberAsuna on November 12, 2003, 12:18:32 PM
ok in that video that was posted above ( the one with those guys " off roading " with the trucks ) is that a Battery or gaz powered one ????  because if i get one its to do the same stuff they do  :P  help plz
Title: Re: Remote Tracker part 2
Post by: NY_SIDEKICKER on November 12, 2003, 12:29:19 PM
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battery is not slow.  THey're almost as fast as gas, you just dont have the flexibility of adding a bigger tank and playing longer, you're stuck at whatever your battery gives
   JUST REMEMBER HE'S NOT TALKING YOUR LOCAL TOYS R US  BATTERY OPERATED R/C  THE TOY & HOBBY SPECIALTY SHOP HAS BETTER R/C THEN THE BIG BOX STORES DO ........... ;D
Title: Re: Remote Tracker part 2
Post by: Zukipilot on November 12, 2003, 08:47:09 PM
My HPI is battery operated and it will out run most any Nitro truck I have come up against. The big down fall is the battery life. I have 3 battery packs, and with my racing motor in it each one last a little over 3 minutes (wide open 45+MPH) so if you charge as you play, you usually can play for 15 min before you hit any down time. With my stock motor the battery life increases to 4 minures per battery but my top speed drops to 35.

Once I get settled in my house, I'm going to sell my racing truck and do a Nitro Rock Crawler.
Zig
Title: Re: Remote Tracker part 2
Post by: UberAsuna on November 12, 2003, 11:52:16 PM
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My HPI is battery operated and it will out run most any Nitro truck I have come up against. The big down fall is the battery life. I have 3 battery packs, and with my racing motor in it each one last a little over 3 minutes (wide open 45+MPH) so if you charge as you play, you usually can play for 15 min before you hit any down time. With my stock motor the battery life increases to 4 minures per battery but my top speed drops to 35.

Once I get settled in my house, I'm going to sell my racing truck and do a Nitro Rock Crawler.
Zig


if you find where to buy some parts to build one from the US or canada plz link me i reallllllllllly wanna build one hehe
Title: Re: Remote Tracker part 2
Post by: Zukipilot on November 13, 2003, 12:15:24 AM
I posted to a couple of RC BBS this morning. I will let yo know what I find out. So far, all of the new Nitro trucks I have found are independant suspension, but bost of the rock crawler RC's I have seen are solid axle.
Zig
Title: Re: Remote Tracker part 2
Post by: NY_SIDEKICKER on November 13, 2003, 11:57:17 AM
HOM MUCH THESE LITTLE BABIES GOING FOR ANYWAY ???....SPENT MY TIRE MONEY LAST MONTH ON NEW HALLOWEEN PROPS FOR MY HAUNTED HOUSE ...WHO KNOWS MAYBE THIS MONTH IT'LL BE A NEW R/C  ::) I'LL HAVE TO ADD THAT TO MY SANTA LIST  ;D .......MATTY D.
Title: Re: Remote Tracker part 2
Post by: Samurai_Hamster on November 13, 2003, 12:09:22 PM
I would love to see one of those RC trackers!  I bet those leetle ones still turn on a dime and give nine cents worth of change!
Title: Re: Remote Tracker part 2
Post by: Zukipilot on November 13, 2003, 09:43:57 PM
A decent pro level RC starts out around $300 for the kit, motor, controler, etc. Most hoby shops will build them for you, but that is half of the fun. The cool part is that you can select everything you want for the use that you intend for the RC. When I purchased mine, I was looking for speed and good handleing. I went with an HPI RS4 MT, 4x4. It works realy good on dirt tracks but is geared to high for rock crawling. You can also change stuff as your needs change (motors, gears, locked diffs, diff gears, transmissions, etc...
Later,
Zig
Title: Re: Remote Tracker part 2
Post by: NY_SIDEKICKER on November 14, 2003, 10:35:58 AM
HEY THANKS FOR THE INFO  ;D  I DRIVE BY A SPECIALTY SHOP EVERY NIGHT ON MY WAY HOME, I SHOULD STOP AND LOOK SOMETIME BUT IT COULD PROVE TO BE DISASTEROUS TO THE ZUKE FUND AGAIN  ::)   MATTY D.
Title: Re: Remote Tracker part 2
Post by: Zukipilot on November 14, 2003, 12:33:54 PM
RC's are almost as much fun as a Zuk. :o The good thing is that you can pick up a pile of rocks and rock crawl in your back yard. The down fall is that you can spend as much $'s on an RC as you can on a Zuk :'( 8) ::) ;D It all depends on what you want out of it. The more I investigste, the more I THINK i'm going to do gears, tranny and lockers for what I have, but I sure would love to have a Nitro Rock Crawler.
Zig
Title: Re: Remote Tracker part 2
Post by: mrfuelish on November 19, 2003, 07:03:32 AM
check this out if i can get the link right!http://home.comcast.net/~broncojim/rccar.wmv
Title: Re: Remote Tracker part 2
Post by: Natebert on November 19, 2003, 08:19:30 AM
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check this out if i can get the link right!http://home.comcast.net/~broncojim/rccar.wmv


I've always wanted to watch somebody totally trash a perfectly good vehicle.  Glad somebody did it for me!
Nice air.
~Nate
Title: Re: Remote Tracker part 2
Post by: NY_SIDEKICKER on November 19, 2003, 11:04:22 AM
NOW I BET THEY GET MORE THAN 5 MINUTES TO A TANK OF GAS  ;D   HMMMMMMM... MAYBE THERE ON TO SOMETHING  ::)  WAY COOL ...MATTY D.
Title: Re: Remote Tracker part 2
Post by: Zukipilot on November 19, 2003, 10:21:41 PM
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if you find where to buy some parts to build one from the US or canada plz link me i reallllllllllly wanna build one hehe


Do a search for RC Trucks, RC Nitro, etc... I'v just started dealing with a local hoby shop Cookeville Raceway and Hobbies (www.cookevillehobbies.com) 931-520-6017. He has alot of stuff to build a tough RC but he does not stock much if the rock crawling stuff yet. Also his web site is under construction but look at the raceway link and you can check out some of the RC's he has.
Zig