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Title: rear discs 5 on 5.5
Post by: 90Stomper on May 02, 2005, 02:10:25 PM
i know this is a constant subject on and off.  i stole this post from a heep guy on my club forum. what do ya think?

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It's not really hard if you have 5 on 5.5 bolt pattern.
Parts needed:
2ea 78 Ford rotor
2ea 78 Chev. calipers w/pads
2ea 78 Chev. Brake hoses
2ea hard brake lines
2ea tabs for brake lines (JR Motorsports)
2ea Jam nuts to fit brake lines
1 set chev caliper brackets (JR Motorsports)
:-/
Title: Re: rear discs 5 on 5.5
Post by: Mikerpm4x4 on May 02, 2005, 05:25:01 PM
Are you lookin to rear disc the tracker? Ive done it but its a lot of work. Are your rear drums really that bad?I always liked my stock brakes. Only reason I went dics was it was easier to install on the nine inch rear end than stock drum.

mike
Title: Re: rear discs 5 on 5.5
Post by: 95geo on May 03, 2005, 12:48:22 AM
i made some brackets to mount the stock front calipers and rotors on the rear dana 44, you could probably do something like that for the tracker rear, its cheap and metric
Title: Re: rear discs 5 on 5.5
Post by: zukin on May 03, 2005, 01:54:29 AM
I have done the disc brake conversion on my 87 Sammy.
want to do the same on my 93Sidekick, has anyone done this conversion  with e-brake?
Title: Re: rear discs 5 on 5.5
Post by: xoffroad on May 03, 2005, 03:33:24 AM
Use Caddy calipers, they have an E-brake inside them but are notorious for seizing up.
Title: Re: rear discs 5 on 5.5
Post by: Mikerpm4x4 on May 03, 2005, 09:30:06 AM
This artical may help. This has a working parking brake.

http://www.zukiworld.com/month_070103/feature_hagen_ford9inch.htm

Mike
Title: Re: rear discs 5 on 5.5
Post by: Chief on May 03, 2005, 10:59:04 AM
http://www.trailtough.com/axle.htm

Economy rear disc brake kit. $100 for that. Then use stock front calipers and rotors. There is no mechanical e-brake, so I used a rear line lock instead. I'm gonna see how it works before I add a proportioning valve in place of the stock LSPV. My rear drum brakes are weak, since I lifted 2", so I think it might balance out just right when I add the discs. Time will tell.

I only have the rear line lock installed w/ the stock drums. Need time and $$ to finsi hit up. Getting the sammi t-case in has taken precident. Who the hell needs brake anyway?!?!?  ;D
Title: Re: rear discs 5 on 5.5
Post by: ed oorklep on May 03, 2005, 11:05:21 AM
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Then use stock front calipers and rotors. There is no mechanical e-brake, so I used a rear line lock instead.

So, front kick calipers? or sammy's. And how does a line lock work?
Title: Re: rear discs 5 on 5.5
Post by: Chief on May 03, 2005, 11:32:41 AM
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So, front kick calipers? or sammy's. And how does a line lock work?


You can use either ones. You just get the kit that matches which calipers you got. Line lock works as well as the rear brakes do. I dunno how it'll hold on a steep hill, but it works just fine in my flat driveway. I can't roll it at all, like I could w/ the stock mechanical brake.
Title: Re: rear discs 5 on 5.5
Post by: 90Stomper on May 03, 2005, 02:29:41 PM
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"This basic kit includes the pieces necessary for the do-it-yourselfer to put Samurai front calipers and rotors on the rear of your Samurai OR Sidekick."

Samurai
Item #ERD-400 Price $ 99.00
Sidekick
Item #ERD-401 Price $ 99.00

**Note - this kit makes NO provision for e-brake or proportioning.


wow, i dont know why i never saw that one before, thats a pretty good deal.  i just did my brothers heep Cherokeeee rear breaks last fall and they have the ebreak drum inside the discs (cable) and i am 90% sure they were 5 on 5.5.  might have to tear into that one again ;)

would really like to hear how that turns out with out the P-valve.
Title: Re: rear discs 5 on 5.5
Post by: zukin on May 03, 2005, 02:43:49 PM
I believe jeep cherokee is 5x4.5
Title: Re: rear discs 5 on 5.5
Post by: ed oorklep on May 03, 2005, 11:30:00 PM
Okay, I think I'll get the trailtough kit and some kick calipers and use a line lock as hand brake, now I'll have to find out if only a line lock is legal over here.....
But it's all gonna work out I'm sure  ;D
Title: Re: rear discs 5 on 5.5
Post by: 90Stomper on May 04, 2005, 12:58:03 PM
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I believe jeep cherokee is 5x4.5
 well poop!  i do think your right.  that would have worked out sweet.  i did his rear breaks for him and thought 'wow cool idea' :-/  oh well, i havent used my park break for 2 years, since i put in a new pass cable... :P
Title: Re: rear discs 5 on 5.5
Post by: Natebert on May 05, 2005, 04:01:06 PM
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I only have the rear line lock installed w/ the stock drums. Need time and $$ to finsi hit up.
... ;D


How has that worked for you?
~Nate
Title: Re: rear discs 5 on 5.5
Post by: CBTracker on May 06, 2005, 12:58:43 AM
How does the 4 discs handle after a watercrossing? I get alot of fade right now with the stockers, I can't imagine it being any better...
Title: Re: rear discs 5 on 5.5
Post by: brandonsfabwork on May 06, 2005, 06:27:53 AM
I have the spidertrax rear disc set up on my sammy running 33's and it brakes soooooo much better than my stock rear drums did.  i would NOT run without a proportioning valve though.  You still need 70% of your braking up front and a prop vavle can adjust it so its right and safe.  And yes discs work better crossing water,  no fade at all.   ;D
Title: Re: rear discs 5 on 5.5
Post by: Chief on May 06, 2005, 08:52:00 AM
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How has that worked for you?
~Nate


Before, with the stock e-brake, I could pull it and still move the car myself by pushing. With the line lock, there is no prayer of moving it. I have yet to try it on a steep hill.
Title: Re: rear discs 5 on 5.5
Post by: Chief on May 06, 2005, 08:54:25 AM
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I have the spidertrax rear disc set up on my sammy running 33's and it brakes soooooo much better than my stock rear drums did.  i would NOT run without a proportioning valve though.  You still need 70% of your braking up front and a prop vavle can adjust it so its right and safe.  And yes discs work better crossing water,  no fade at all.   ;D


Well, I think the majority of my braking comes from the front anyway. Reason being, my LSPV is in the stock location. I have yet to touch it. I have around 2" of lift, so, Compensating for the lighter rear end (Or so that is how the LSPV sees it), there is less pressure going to the rear brakes.

I'll try it without a PV first, if I don't like it, Summit Racing is about a 20 min drive from my house.  8)
Title: Re: rear discs 5 on 5.5
Post by: brandonsfabwork on May 06, 2005, 10:16:53 AM
hey chief-  I dont think my sammy is as high tech as your trackick (no lspv on mine) ;D so you hopefully could get away w/o buying a pv.  that would be cool.  just be carefull on the 1st test run!  my 1st drive after the disc swap was in the rain and the pv wasn't adjusted right.  It felt fine at slow speeds then I got it up to 40 or so and hit the binders---yeeehaaaa!!  something about a short wheel base sammy on 33" boggers going sideways down the road because the rears locked up isnt fun.  Unless you do it on purpose ;)
Title: Re: rear discs 5 on 5.5
Post by: 1bigtracker on May 06, 2005, 01:13:01 PM
thats the same thing that happens in our bronco just with 35 in swampers and alot more truck.  ;D  lol
that reminds me that we have to order a PV for it.

stu
Title: Re: rear discs 5 on 5.5
Post by: 90Stomper on May 06, 2005, 01:44:29 PM
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that reminds me that we have to order a PV for it.
 where is a good place to get one of these?
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my 1st drive after the disc swap was in the rain and the pv wasn't adjusted right.
 any tips on setting this up right (or close) in the garage?
Title: Re: rear discs 5 on 5.5
Post by: Chief on May 07, 2005, 03:33:23 AM
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 where is a good place to get one of these?
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 any tips on setting this up right (or close) in the garage?


www.summitracing.com

I don't think you can really set it up in the garage. Just have the majority of the bias set to the front, then slowly adjust it towards the rear, with test drives in between.