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Title: Gas Tank lift
Post by: ebewley on March 24, 2003, 12:56:49 AM
Has anyone done the gas tank lift as described in Hagan's article? What was your experience? Was it worth it? I'm still on the fence a little bit.

-Eric
Title: Re: Gas Tank lift
Post by: Zukipilot on March 24, 2003, 09:47:46 PM
If you have done a body lift definately do it. It's great. I always would drag my tank untill I did the mod. Now the 33x12.50 spare is the first thing to hit (still in original location) If you have an afternoon, a grinder and a welder, you can do this mod and you wont be dissapointed.
Title: Re: Gas Tank lift
Post by: 1bigtracker on July 31, 2003, 01:41:40 PM
i will be doing it somtime in the next few weeks.  I'll write somthing about it after i do it.
Title: Re: Gas Tank lift
Post by: NY_SIDEKICKER on August 01, 2003, 03:33:49 PM
I'M THINKING IT MUST LOOK BETTER BEING PUT BACK UP WHERE IT BELONGS, CLOSE TO THE BODY ???
Title: Re: Gas Tank lift
Post by: Not_Stock on August 03, 2003, 09:52:12 AM
Anyone just put a fuel cell in it's place????I'm thinking of doing one that bigger the the stock milk jug size tank to get a lil more MPT(mile per tank).
Title: Re: Gas Tank lift
Post by: Midnightrider on August 03, 2003, 12:36:14 PM
I been wondering the same thing about a bigger fuel cell.
Title: Re: Gas Tank lift
Post by: Zukipilot on August 03, 2003, 11:55:05 PM
 How far are you'll driving ??? I can wheel for two days in the mountains and not need to come out or gas.
Zig
Title: Re: Gas Tank lift
Post by: wildgoody on August 04, 2003, 02:49:08 AM
It's not the wheeling that sucks so much gas, it's getting there.
I get 10 MPG pulling a hill with stock gears and 33" Swampers.

I know when I swap gears to the 5:83s I will pick up some more MPG
but I never got more than 23 MPG bone stock brand new, and that was
cruising less than 65 freeway.  Average miles per tank - 200 and you
need gas bad, hope there is a station someplace close, so to be safe,
we always stopped at about 150 miles and filled up. this equals stopping
for gas about every 3 hours, which is fine for the women folk, but every
time you stop add 1/2 hour to the arrival time... *sigh*  takes forever
to get someplace like that.
Title: Re: Gas Tank lift
Post by: Zukipilot on August 04, 2003, 05:22:15 AM
yea, I only get around 180/tank on 33's. But after 2.5-3 hours in the truck, I,m ready to get out for a minute and pump some gas, and 90% of the time I travel solo, so I dont have to worry about the 30min. thing. 5-10 and I'm rolling again ;D
Zig
Title: Re: Gas Tank lift
Post by: sidekick_nut on August 04, 2003, 05:49:13 AM
Here's pics of my gas tank relocation and what I expierenced:
http://brummell.net/modules.php?set_albumName=album09&op=modload&name=Gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php

Terry
Title: Re: Gas Tank lift
Post by: ebewley on August 04, 2003, 01:03:39 PM
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Here's pics of my gas tank relocation and what I expierenced:
[url]http://brummell.net/modules.php?set_albumName=album09&op=modload&name=Gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php[/url]

Terry


ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US!

-Eric
Title: Re: Gas Tank lift
Post by: sidekick_nut on August 04, 2003, 01:20:14 PM
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ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US!

-Eric


And here I thought no one would see that...
Title: Re: Gas Tank lift
Post by: Midnightrider on August 04, 2003, 03:07:59 PM
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How far are you'll driving ??? I can wheel for two days in the mountains and not need to come out or gas.
Zig

Well mine is also my daily driver which I drive over 40 miles round trip to and from work. I saw somewhere, but cant remember where, a 15 gal. tank and wondered if it could be done.
Title: Re: Gas Tank lift
Post by: wildgoody on August 04, 2003, 05:44:10 PM
For the sammi Petroworks has one, but not for the Kicks yet  :(
Title: Re: Gas Tank lift
Post by: Fredo on August 05, 2003, 04:46:47 AM
Put an 4 doors bigger gaz thank in the back of your 2 doors!?

Fredo
Title: Re: Gas Tank lift
Post by: 1bigtracker on August 05, 2003, 05:22:00 AM
hum. good idea
Title: Re: Gas Tank lift
Post by: Not_Stock on August 05, 2003, 10:04:07 AM
Have to check into that one!!!!
Title: Re: Gas Tank lift
Post by: Not_Stock on August 05, 2003, 10:12:18 AM
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Put an 4 doors bigger gaz thank in the back of your 2 doors!?

Fredo


Anyone know the size difference and where I can possibly get one?????
Title: Re: Gas Tank lift
Post by: Mikerpm4x4 on August 05, 2003, 02:02:31 PM
Sorry, It doesnt fit. the 4 door has a wider frame. :'(

Mike
Title: Re: Gas Tank lift
Post by: 1bigtracker on August 05, 2003, 02:31:24 PM
Dam it Mike, y do u have to know EVERYTHING! lol
Title: Re: Gas Tank lift
Post by: Fredo on August 05, 2003, 04:44:43 PM
k9rdj .co .uk

Clik on (specification) on the left and after that clik on (3" petrol tank lift)

Fredo
Title: Re: Gas Tank lift
Post by: Mikerpm4x4 on August 06, 2003, 03:26:22 PM
Wow! What an artical! Nice pics too! I didnt mention that it was hard because I (luckly!) have never had any trouble with this mod. :-/ Rust can be a bi*ch huh!

Mike
Title: Re: Gas Tank lift
Post by: Crabzuki on August 08, 2003, 03:04:53 AM
Quote

Well mine is also my daily driver which I drive over 40 miles round trip to and from work. I saw somewhere, but cant remember where, a 15 gal. tank and wondered if it could be done.
Along with what Midnightrider said I think this is what he's thinking of.

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Title: Re: Gas Tank lift
Post by: Twan013 on August 06, 2005, 09:00:24 PM
"ALL YOUR BASE IS BELONG TO US"

what the heck does that mean??  i've seen it in so many forums!!! i don't get it!
Title: Re: Gas Tank lift
Post by: SiKiD_01 on August 06, 2005, 09:37:18 PM
If you have have a 3" BL, i think a tank lift is a very good idea. you can also do it with a 2", but may need some more work.

Here is my tank lift thread. (has pics too)
http://www.zukiworld.com/forum/index.php?topic=64.0

heres another thread with somemore pics.
http://www.zukiworld.com/forum/index.php?topic=8254.0

heres another tank lift thread. (no pics)
http://www.zukiworld.com/forum/index.php?topic=2443.0

tank lift in Digger's Goblin
http://www.zukiworld.com/forum/index.php?topic=889.0

some more tank lift tech
http://www.zukiworld.com/forum/index.php?topic=4412.0
Title: Who has done this on a 4-door w/2" B/L??
Post by: crikeymike on September 16, 2005, 04:40:32 PM
I've been searching and reading for 2 hours now and can't match up someone that's raised the gas tank on a 4-door with a 2" body lift.

Feel free to chime in now with the answers/pics/information.

The tank is wider and larger than the 2 doors, so it'll be different i'm sure, and most of these dudes seem to have a 3" body lift to start with for the tank lift.
Title: Re: Gas Tank lift
Post by: ksa421 on September 16, 2005, 07:10:10 PM
I am gonna lift mine out of nicessity,to appease the local cops >:(
Title: Re: Gas Tank lift
Post by: Dihnekis on September 16, 2005, 11:29:42 PM
Shouldn't the tank be low for safety purposes? I mean, if you get rearended and your tank is higher, its more likely to get crushed and cause a fire/explosion right? Or am I way off base.
Title: Re: Gas Tank lift
Post by: Digger on September 16, 2005, 11:56:01 PM
Actually in stock form the tank hangs below the frame rails some. Lifting the tank 3-4" pretty much centers it vertically in the frame so it is much more protected...
Title: Re: Gas Tank lift
Post by: Digger on September 17, 2005, 12:44:44 AM
Sorry, It doesnt fit. the 4 door has a wider frame. :'(

Mike

How much wider is it? I just tore the body off of a 92 four door frame and although I didn't measure, it looked the same. If the 4 door frame is wider, then what about the coil cups on the rear axle? And what about the engine mounts?
Title: Re: Gas Tank lift
Post by: ksa421 on September 18, 2005, 02:10:19 AM
THe cop told me mine was too low and if i got rearended it would explode....he said i should buy fuel cell and put it where my rearseat used to be ::).....
Title: Re: Gas Tank lift
Post by: Digger on September 20, 2005, 11:28:43 PM
Sorry, It doesnt fit. the 4 door has a wider frame. :'(

Mike

Mike, I hate to disagree with you, but I measured a 92 four door frame and a 93 2 door frame. The frames are the exact same width. The 4 door's tank is around 5" longer front to back than the 2 door's tank(and the coresponding crossmembers are 5" further apart in the 4door). The 4 door's tank is a little wider than the 2 door's as well. So wide, in fact, that the pinch weld is wider than the frame's opening! The 4 door tank is too wide to lift the tank even in a 4 door frame unless you bend the pinch weld in or cut it off.

To fit a 4 door tank into a 2 door frame would require major fabrication and frame modification to work. To raise the tank on a 4 door, you need to cut the pinch welds off or bend them in on the sides of the tank, just to clear the frame, then you still need to fab some higher mounts. You could always put a 2 door tank into a 4 door and it would have plenty of room for lifting it, but you'd still need to fab some mounts to fill in the 5" gap in the mounts and you're losing the range of the 4 door tank...

The easiest tank to lift is a 2 door tank in a 2 door frame with at least 3" of body lift. You drop the tank, cut off the old tank mounting brackets then clamp the tank to the round crossmembers with heavy duty 2" muffler clamps with the pinch weld on top of the rear-most crossmember and underneath the forward crossmember...
Title: Re: Gas Tank lift
Post by: SiKiD_01 on September 21, 2005, 03:10:11 AM
like digger has said, lifting a 2 dr tank in a 2 dr is easiest, esp with a min of 3" BL.

if you can weld good, you can just make up a new rear section.

http://www.zukiworld.com/forum/index.php?topic=64.0
Title: 3" Gas Tank lift from Grand Vitara
Post by: _MeKilla_ on September 21, 2005, 03:50:03 AM
Here is my 5 cents. I've made 3" bodylift, gas tank replace (from Grand Vitara) and 3" gas tank lift. You can see some photos here (http://dve.ru/blog/photo/fuel_tank_lift/).

Other photos are here (http://dve.ru/blog/photo/). And my blog is here (http://dve.ru/blog/) (NOTE: IN RUSSIAN ONLY!).
Title: Re: 3" Gas Tank lift from Grand Vitara
Post by: Zukipilot on September 21, 2005, 08:12:58 AM
Here is my 5 cents. I've made 3" bodylift, gas tank replace (from Grand Vitara) and 3" gas tank lift. You can see some photos here ([url]http://dve.ru/blog/photo/fuel_tank_lift/[/url]).

Other photos are here ([url]http://dve.ru/blog/photo/[/url]). And my blog is here ([url]http://dve.ru/blog/[/url]) (NOTE: IN RUSSIAN ONLY!).


How much did that improve your fuel capacity?

Zig
Title: Re: Gas Tank lift
Post by: Mikerpm4x4 on September 21, 2005, 08:18:01 AM
Sorry, It doesnt fit. the 4 door has a wider frame. :'(

Mike

Mike, I hate to disagree with you, but I measured a 92 four door frame and a 93 2 door frame. The frames are the exact same width. The 4 door's tank is around 5" longer front to back than the 2 door's tank(and the coresponding crossmembers are 5" further apart in the 4door). The 4 door's tank is a little wider than the 2 door's as well. So wide, in fact, that the pinch weld is wider than the frame's opening! The 4 door tank is too wide to lift the tank even in a 4 door frame unless you bend the pinch weld in or cut it off.

You got me, I ment longer. I knew what I ment it just didnt come out right.  I must have been tired.  :P Even if you cut and moved the crossmember the rear diff would hit the gas tank so it will not fit.

Mike

Mike
Title: Re: 3" Gas Tank lift from Grand Vitara
Post by: _MeKilla_ on February 19, 2006, 05:11:50 AM
How much did that improve your fuel capacity?

Stock gas tank fuel capacity is 42 litres. After mod 70 litres.
Title: Re: Gas Tank lift
Post by: hobgoblin on February 20, 2006, 12:31:43 AM
Hello All,

Just lifted my tank 3 inches...Heres how I done it.
Removed tank
Cut the front bracket off three inches
Removed the whole rear x-member.
Made new brackets for the front out of 2" strap 1.5"long with nut welded to it.
Made new x-member for back out of 2"angle steel that is 1/4 thick and 30"long
Set the angle flush with top of frame and in 1/2 inch.
Mounted tank to front
Drilled hole from bottom in back for 2"angle.

That is with 2" body lift now my tank sets 1/4 away from the body.Looks much better a is also in a safer place.My rear x-member was getting cancer so bye-bye.

Later Tom K
Title: Re: Gas Tank lift
Post by: wezzlegod on February 20, 2006, 06:54:45 PM
yo can someone post the link to this mod so i can revew it i was thinking of doing it myself and would like to se someone elses way.
Title: Re: Gas Tank lift
Post by: Mikerpm4x4 on February 20, 2006, 07:51:04 PM
http://www.zukiworld.com/month_080102/feature_hagen_gastanklift.htm