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Title: tire lean
Post by: trackenator on April 30, 2005, 03:29:55 PM
hey gruop. my 92 tracker has a 3in body lift and 2in tj coil spring spacers. i run 31 x 10.5 x 15 in tires. at home in the driveway the front tires at the top lean in. but i drive to work and park and they lean out.everything is tight and i have no movement in the front. any ideas?
Title: Re: tire lean
Post by: zuksofhazzard on April 30, 2005, 03:46:34 PM
Are you backing into one of these parking spots?

Ford trucks have IFS and the front will kinda squat when you back them up.

Check your alignment. You should have it realigned when lifting it. Keep an eye on your treadwear.
Title: Re: tire lean
Post by: bashzuk on April 30, 2005, 07:34:45 PM
Fords lean in when backed up just in case you were wondering if it leans in or out.
I almost paid alot of money to find out what was wrong when a buddy of mine goes they do that it's normal.
Title: Re: tire lean
Post by: chrisvitarasport94 on April 30, 2005, 09:19:31 PM
like on my  '94, the coil spacer lift has altered your geometry. it should have caused the tops to lean out.

easy fix $25 - adjustable camber bolts - speciality products ez cam (part# 81500 I think)

simple fit, and get an alignment - like new again!!!!!!
Title: Re: tire lean
Post by: tracker8wr on May 01, 2005, 04:14:23 AM
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like on my  '94, the coil spacer lift has altered your geometry. it should have caused the tops to lean out.

easy fix $25 - adjustable camber bolts - speciality products ez cam (part# 81500 I think)

simple fit, and get an alignment - like new again!!!!!!


exactly the correct answer the camber needs to be corrected. take it to a tire shop and they will tell u the same thing but they will tell u that u have no adjustment for camber on ur vehicle. that is why u must buy the camber bolts. however the camber bolts will not correct the problem intirely becuse they do not alow enough abjustment. u can either be happy with the correction they allow or grind the top hole in ur strut oval to be able to adjust. camber is how much the tire leans in and out. if ur friend has a newer ifs truck and it is lifted and it leans that is because the suspension lift was a cheep lift and it is not houlding the tire strainght or he may need to replace his bearings and ball joints. if it is twin Ibeam or ttb it is also out of alaignment and needs to be adjusted. yes the older fords do have some camber in and out as the suspension cycles but not just by backing up. win flexing on something, but defanetly noticable and full drop. the newer ford have a 2 a-arm setup which is suposed to hold the tire level throught the full range of motion. A TRACKER HAS A SINGLE A-ARM AND IT CAUSE IT TO MOVE TROUGH THE CAMBER ARCH AS IT MOVES UP AND DOWN. the trick is to get the camber set as level as possible for normal driving or ur tires will wear irregularly.
Title: Re: tire lean
Post by: wolf66 on May 01, 2005, 05:04:42 AM
How much coil lift can you use before you run out of camber adjustment on a Track/Kick (or X  ;))
I have the RRO 1-1/8" coil spacers now and she still is alignable, but i want to put in Sky Manfact. 1.5" coil spacers....think that will still be alignable?

And if not is there a web address for:

speciality products?
Title: Re: tire lean
Post by: chrisvitarasport94 on May 01, 2005, 05:55:35 AM
with my +1.5" spring and +1" rro spacers, I could get proper adjustment using the standard recommended cam bolt, whcih I installed and set to maximum adjustment.

I seem to remember that they offer a bigger adjustment bolt, but that shouldn't be necessary,

after all, you love your CV's don't you, and 2.5" extra is enough for them !

I see it's the 81250 that you need ;

http://www.specprod.com/PROD_DIR/C_PROD_passcar_SEARCH_DYN.cfm?cmd=Cam&cmd2=81250&cmd3=58%2C%2061
Title: Re: tire lean
Post by: red_baron on May 01, 2005, 09:09:31 AM
the tyres on my lwb vit still lean out at the top.
even after fitting camber bolts.
mind you it does have 4" of suspension lift.
but i have found that when its loaded up the tyres settle to the right camber.
Title: Re: tire lean
Post by: tracker8wr on May 01, 2005, 10:04:56 AM
1 3/4 is the most. the other cambolts have very small shafts and could break off if u tighten them down to much. however that is my opinion and i have been wrong before.
Title: Re: tire lean
Post by: Mikerpm4x4 on May 01, 2005, 03:17:48 PM
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hey gruop. my 92 tracker has a 3in body lift and 2in tj coil spring spacers. i run 31 x 10.5 x 15 in tires. at home in the driveway the front tires at the top lean in. but i drive to work and park and they lean out.everything is tight and i have no movement in the front. any ideas?

I think this is a problem with your alignment. If your toe in or toe out is off it will cause the camber to change which is more easily seen but the naked eye.Camber can change when you move in reverse or forward if it is way out. If you wheel it much the Idler will bend quite easily. The smallest Idler bend will cause a lot of toe change. Sky MFG make a bombproof Idler for just under $100.  Cheaper than getting it alligned all the time or even worse burning an expensive set of tires off.

Mike
Title: Re: tire lean
Post by: chrisvitarasport94 on May 01, 2005, 07:57:45 PM
yup, toe could cause this, but check camber first, and I guess toe is more expensive to correct
Title: Re: tire lean
Post by: zukin on May 02, 2005, 02:29:50 AM
who sells the speciality products ez cam ?
do they have a web page?
Title: Re: tire lean
Post by: Agent Orange on May 02, 2005, 03:44:58 PM
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who sells the speciality products ez cam ?
do they have a web page?


this is what your looking for zukin

http://www.specprod.com/PROD_DIR/C_PROD_passcar_SEARCH_DYN.cfm?cmd=Cam&cmd2=81250&cmd3=58%2C%2061

i bought mine from lordco, they had them in stock for $40 set.
Title: Re: tire lean
Post by: barcus on May 02, 2005, 03:50:11 PM
you may need this. by a japanese aftermarket manufacturer APIO. camber adjustment kit for escudo.

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74/barcus/173.jpg)
Title: Re: tire lean
Post by: HotRod on May 02, 2005, 04:07:04 PM
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you may need this. by a japanese aftermarket manufacturer APIO. camber adjustment kit for escudo.

([url]http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74/barcus/173.jpg[/url])

Those are well needed over here.
But only found in Japan?
That sucks. (for us in the U.S.)
Title: Re: tire lean
Post by: zukin on May 02, 2005, 04:18:01 PM
Agent_Orange, do you have a make & part number
from Lordco? I called them today and they told they had no access to canber bolts.
Title: Re: tire lean
Post by: whitfield on May 02, 2005, 06:33:11 PM
(http://photos.zuwharrie.com/users/whitfimb/alignment1.JPG)