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Title: Mini Spool or locker????
Post by: Setheron on April 19, 2005, 02:26:29 PM
I'm new to this and i just heard about the mini spool.............umm wtf is it? it says it does the same as a locker but is dirt cheap so can someone shed some light on my deformed head? ???
Title: Re: Mini Spool or locker????
Post by: Speedracer7c on April 19, 2005, 02:39:42 PM
The mini-spool is permanently locked. As where a lock-rite type locker unlocks when you corner.
Title: Re: Mini Spool or locker????
Post by: HUMZUKI on April 20, 2005, 02:29:46 AM
They'v both got there ups and downs.

The bad
Spool is always locked,, so its harder to steer on the street in parking lots. And that will chew and chirp the tires a bit,,,BUT Iv got a spool in my stock axle with 33's and its a daily driver and the ware and chirp arn't an issue.

Lockers pop and click when they engadge and disengadge around corners, I think there a bit unpredictable and don't like unexpected lane changes. Also even the SLIGHTEST ben in the axle and they screw up.

The Good
Spools are always Locked!!! ;D
Title: Re: Mini Spool or locker????
Post by: hcgalvin on April 20, 2005, 02:47:45 AM
Yeah, spools are always locked. I think of them as that chinese finger pull trick. I think though, if you want to continue having your truck as a daily driver, a spool is a bad idea. Increased tire wear is annoying, and continued driving on the streets WILL result in axle snappage. Just because it hasn't happened to some of you doesn't mean it won't!  ;) Granted bigger tires like 31's and 33's can cause this more so than smaller.

IMO for a daily driver, a lock rite is a better choice. You get used to the ratcheting noise, you get used to the popping, and extra torque steer, and if you have an auto, you don't notice too much that it's even there. The fact that a lock rite disengages around corners just means that much less tire wear, and axle ratcheting.

My experience with a spool on a daily driver with 31's was that it would ratchet the axles back and forth around corners. You could actually see the tension in the axle shaft as it rocked back and forth while the tires squealed around the corners. This has a tendancy to gradually weaken and then twist your splines.

Spool 5 Axles 0

I had one breakage with my lockrite in the time I had it in. Which was longer than I had the spool installed. The reason for the breakage however, was that I was situated between rocks, and I was trying to back up over them. One of my mudflaps caught between one of my tires and a rock, and as I torqued up going backwards because there was no slippage on the tire stuck on the flap, it snapped that axle.

Sorry to be so negative on spools, but that little $99 charge on a daily driver like mine ended up costing me 5 axles, and a set of tires. If your rig is going to be mostly on dirt, or on trails, and not a daily, go for it.

:)
Title: Re: Mini Spool or locker????
Post by: DirtDevil on April 20, 2005, 04:19:56 AM
I just set up a group buy for mini spools from trailtough, I prefer a mini spool over and auto locker, or if i had the money Id buy arb's... but spools my best bet for now
Title: Re: Mini Spool or locker????
Post by: Setheron on April 20, 2005, 03:26:08 PM
I think i'll wait and use the Auto locker because it will hit the highway alot and 33's are cha ching enough :-X
Title: Re: Mini Spool or locker????
Post by: breadbox on April 20, 2005, 06:49:56 PM
I have a spool in mine and the treadware is minimal, and I drive mine every day to and from work and to the trails.   ;D
Title: Re: Mini Spool or locker????
Post by: Bigzook on April 21, 2005, 02:30:53 AM
All of you are forgetting one thing. Auto lockers only disengage when your off the power.
Title: Re: Mini Spool or locker????
Post by: INGERSOL on April 21, 2005, 05:30:59 AM
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:Dmuthafukka >:(
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Wow, these little special effects work.
Title: Re: Mini Spool or locker????
Post by: hcgalvin on April 21, 2005, 05:51:07 AM
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[shadow=pink,left,300]
:Dmuthafukka >:(
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Wow, these little special effects work.


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Title: Re: Mini Spool or locker????
Post by: INGERSOL on April 21, 2005, 05:55:16 AM
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Posted by: hcgalvin

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Honest to god, I have been wondering what that glow and marqee stuff actually does.  So that was my test.

;D
Title: Re: Mini Spool or locker????
Post by: tracker8wr on April 21, 2005, 10:13:02 AM
bad spool / good locker. i run a locker and have not broken an axle and have had it for over an year.
Title: Re: Mini Spool or locker????
Post by: Bigzook on April 21, 2005, 11:45:33 AM
Or you can be like speedracer, lock the rear and blow up front cv's!!heheh
Title: Re: Mini Spool or locker????
Post by: wezzlegod on April 21, 2005, 12:53:42 PM
how about spooling the frount diff i have lockrights in the rear. do thay make one for the frount ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Mini Spool or locker????
Post by: mrfuelish on April 21, 2005, 01:12:17 PM
If you spend 580.00 Bucks for the axel's, sure they do. ;D or use late model kick axels for track kick's.
Title: Re: Mini Spool or locker????
Post by: adamd on April 22, 2005, 12:51:44 AM
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how about spooling the frount diff i have lockrights in the rear. do thay make one for the frount ??? ??? ???


From my research a spool is a bad idea in the front as you won't be able to steer when in 4x4. Also an auto locker will also be difficult. Those ARBS are looking good for the front!

If you do want an auto locker you need a sammi carrier machined. www.trailtough.com does it.

I wish they had those cable actuated lockers for zuks.
Title: Re: Mini Spool or locker????
Post by: MUTANT_ZUK on April 22, 2005, 02:21:20 PM
(http://www.omghi2.us/april05/Lockers01001.jpg)
These are real quite in operationHave them front and rear in the Toyota axles. M.Z. ;)