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ZUKIWORLD Discussion Forum => Suzuki 4x4 Forum => Topic started by: chrisvitarasport94 on April 14, 2005, 05:12:05 AM
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have seen this mentioned before, and can imagine benefits, but...
does this put more strain on CV by allowing more articulation....
or does the strut/spring geometry govern the overall droop available, so that this just allows better droop independant of what the other wheel is doing ???
don't want to put unnecessary strain on bits needed to get me home!
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If you manually disconnect the sway bar, or put in a disconnect, it allows the wheels to articulate better, and independently. You WILL get more body lean in corners, but I haven't found this to be too much of a problem. I haven't had a sway-bar now for about 2 years, and I don't miss it.
I gave my sway-bar, with the cool Rotational-Dynamics Prototype disconnect welded into it, to Heather, for somebody in Idaho, I think.
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Here's a pic of that sway bar, with a close-up of the disconnect:
(http://img17.echo.cx/img17/3107/sway31cd.jpg)
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I thought of doing the same thing with a piece of pipe, a bolt, and a pin. I ditched the whole sway bar instead.
Cwkick
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Yea .. ditch the sway bar ... I hardly notice it's missing on the road (then again I don't slalom the trac much either :) )
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yeah, not to concerned about on the road, more about the down side risks off road
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The strut actually dictates the total amount that the arm can droop. The sway bar just connects left and right together. Disconnecting the sway bar or removing it wont allow the arms to droop any further than they do now, it just allows them to work independently of each other.
I removed the swaybar from the green Tracker and didn't even notice any difference in handling over stock. I plan on removing the swaybar from my silver one also...
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thank you, that clarifies what I thought
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Just be brave and bin it chris i threw mine away weeks ago, you hardly notice its gone on the road and off the road i recon you get more grip. At huntsham on sunday i tested the sideway stability to near the limits! no one else would drive up the same gully after watching me!!!! A sway bar would not have helped at all (one front wheel in the air by 3'+)
I'm still a bit busy this week but I'll call in next time im passing.
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(one front wheel in the air by 3'+)
What type of lockers are you running ?
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What type of lockers are you running ?
No lockers just brave and it was a deep gulley, only took a couple of attemps to get it out
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3' of air under the tire no lockers and you kept moving foward?? impressive !! got any pix ??
Mine normally loses traction as soon as the front tire lifts unless the lockers on in which case it will crawl up most things on 3 wheels.
(http://photos.zuwharrie.com/users/mudfkr/airup.JPG)
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it was a case of having grip on the fronts and floor it then grip on the rears and floor it, scared the passenger lots too. My mate was to slow getting the camera out to get a pic, we where going to go back and do it again to take some pics, but my mate then broke his sami T-box and we called it a day
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I ditched my sway bar cos I found that with the strut spacers the sway bar fouled on the steering linkage on max. droop. I did notice a big difference in the handling - lots of understeer. Cured this with more offset on the rims. I tried disconnecting it once but it swung down and one end tore a CV boot which led to a trashed driveshaft. I wondered about the disconnect. Do you have any trouble getting the pin back in, I would think the wheels would have to be pretty level. Also putting a much stiffer part in the middle, doesn't that affect the amount the bar can twist? How does it behave. The real problem as i see it is getting to it as it would be behind the bash plate.
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hey bob , heather gave me that sway bar. i built my own strut spacers(2 in.) i dont have my pull pin in , and drive it down the freeway everyday at 70 mph and havent had a problem with the cv angles. love it,articulates awesome.
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I built a remote sway bar disconnect engageable from the drivers seat. You can definitely tell the difference both on road and off road. I like the results, but I think my design could be better. If I can get to a lathe, I will make a better design.
Mike
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I built a remote sway bar disconnect engageable from the drivers seat. You can definitely tell the difference both on road and off road. I like the results, but I think my design could be better.  If I can get to a lathe, I will make a better design.
Mike
How about some pics/details of what you did and how you would improve it.
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Check out this thread on Outerlimits www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modules/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=40624
I'm planing to buy a disconnect at some stage,I PMed Bitsamissin and its available to fit a bar 10mm or larger if your interested .
Regards
Charlie
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the sway bar doesnt really do much to a standard vitara. you might notice it a bit on road, but no one seems to care.
you can remove it and still be ok with drive train component issues. i took mine off, gained a little bit more flex from the front, but i still didnt break anything.
if you want, you can gain an extra 1" of droop if you flip the strut top mount. this can almost be safely run also, and with out thrashing your trucklet too much, you will survive.
the only time i broke a CV was when i put in my strut spacers. at full droop, i can start to feel the CV balls binding, this is not good if the sus is at full droop and the steering turned at any angle. you are pretty sure to spit a CV.
even now, i havent been through a CV as i have adapted to driving my vit a certain way. i sacraficed a bit of go pedal, but gained with more sus travel (rear) and a rear locker. i havent done any major damage yet.
hope this helps, and have fun.
Cheers,
Steve
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Check out this thread on Outerlimits www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modules/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=40624
I'm planing to buy a disconnect at some stage,I PMed Bitsamissin and its available to fit a bar 10mm or larger if your interested .
Regards
Charlie
I remember when he had a page up on a site detailing them a year or two ago but he took it down due to liability issues I think and wasn't going to be making anymore. Didn't realise they are back in production.
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the sway bar doesnt really do much to a standard vitara. you might notice it a bit on road, but no one seems to care.
I'm running with mine off at the moment but am working towards getting it engineered and although it is not necessary it will help the road handling test if I want any chance of getting it passed with the suspension lift, body lift and larger rubber. That's why I'm interested. I don't need the in-cab control but it would be a nice bit of bling ;)