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Title: New member w/ Sidekick questions:
Post by: DenisH on April 11, 2005, 02:15:22 PM
Hey all,

I'm thinking about a mid-'90s Sidekick wagon/5-door as a knock-around work car, it will see a lot of L.A. freeway use. How are they in general? Is there any notable difference in performance or reliability/durability between the different motors? (They seem to have changed a couple times from 8 to 16 valve, and then DOHC).

I owned a Samarai many years ago and other than being too small for my purposes, it was a tough little car. Last question would be what kind of gas mileage people are actually getting, please include model info. (Auto/manual, which motor, etc..). Thanks in advance for any help!  :)
Title: Re: New member w/ Sidekick questions:
Post by: keith on April 11, 2005, 03:03:29 PM
I have a 90 2 door.  It gets about 19 mpg around town.   I briefly owned a newer one that got about 23 mpg on the road.   They don't get as good of mileage as I would expect a small four to get.
Title: Re: New member w/ Sidekick questions:
Post by: jzap on April 11, 2005, 03:07:53 PM
I have a '96 Tracker 2dr 16V, manual, and other than having 225's on it, basically stock.  It is my daily driver, and we do some light off road with it.

It is a much more civilized ride (more comfortable) than my old Samurai, and gets about 28 MPG.

It has been very reliable, and even stock, is pretty capable off road.
Title: Re: New member w/ Sidekick questions:
Post by: mesjr2004 on April 11, 2005, 03:12:36 PM
ive got a 89 2door tracker 8v 5spd and was getting 28mpg after my DUI wile i had no license
Title: Re: New member w/ Sidekick questions:
Post by: Mikerpm4x4 on April 11, 2005, 03:30:39 PM
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after my DUI wile i had no license


So you were babying it I take it...
::)


Mike
Title: Re: New member w/ Sidekick questions:
Post by: HotRod on April 11, 2005, 05:29:12 PM
Welcome aboard  DenisH
I have a 97 4dr 16valve. Gets 25mpg in town and about  28mpg on the Hwy. (with 235/72x15 tires)
Great run around car.
I also have a 95 2dr convertable (w/ 32"inch swapmpers) with all the Calmini goodies and get 20mpg in town ;D
BTW: they're both 5spds
Title: Re: New member w/ Sidekick questions:
Post by: DenisH on April 11, 2005, 07:39:02 PM
Thanks a lot for the replies! Sounds like it's safe to say that the newer 16V models might be a little more efficient. I was leaning towards a mid-90s model, are their any significant reasons to buy one year over the other, or a particular year when they got better?

Once again, TIA for the replies.
Title: Re: New member w/ Sidekick questions:
Post by: Natebert on April 12, 2005, 03:34:15 AM
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EDIT
I have a 97 4dr 16valve. Gets 25mpg in town and about  28mpg on the Hwy. (with 235/72x15 tires)
Great run around car.
BTW: they're both 5spds


We have a 1995 4door 16v and when we had 235s this was what we got too!.

~Nate
Title: Re: New member w/ Sidekick questions:
Post by: Bobzooki on April 12, 2005, 05:02:45 AM
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I was leaning towards a mid-90s model, are their any significant reasons to buy one year over the other, or a particular year when they got better?


Yes - 1995 is the best, if you're having any thoughts about "building" it for off-highway use.  96 and newer models have air-bags, and are more challenging, if you're ever thinking about a body-lift.

My 95 4-door gets 28mpg or better, unless I'm running in 4-wheel-drive (heavy snow), then it might drop down to 24.  The "Sidekick Sport" models are the least popular for building, as they have wider spacing on the frame members, and there are a lot fewer upgrade options for them.
Title: Re: New member w/ Sidekick questions:
Post by: DenisH on April 12, 2005, 05:17:12 AM
Thanks, this is a great board w/ all of the quick replies.

This car will pretty much stay stock since it will be a street car, but I like what some of you people have done w/ mods on your little rock-hoppers.

I am only interested in the 5-door wagon, is '95 a bump in motor from '94 then? First year of 16V?
Title: Re: New member w/ Sidekick questions:
Post by: Bobzooki on April 12, 2005, 09:33:41 AM
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I am only interested in the 5-door wagon, is '95 a bump in motor from '94 then? First year of 16V?


Nope - the 16 valve 1.6L came out in 92.  Be careful!  Both 8 and 16 valve engines were available!

This is what you're looking for:

(http://img69.echo.cx/img69/2404/16valve2ou.jpg)
Title: Re: New member w/ Sidekick questions:
Post by: Bobzooki on April 12, 2005, 09:35:29 AM
...and this is what you are NOT looking for:

(http://img108.echo.cx/img108/9190/8valve6ad.jpg)
Title: Re: New member w/ Sidekick questions:
Post by: Bobzooki on April 12, 2005, 09:40:16 AM
This dash was offered up through 91 - the best - but it only comes with an 8-valve motor:

(http://img97.echo.cx/img97/6489/dash912gy.jpg)

Here's what a 95 dash looks like - still "squared off":

(http://img230.echo.cx/img230/3299/kickdash956se.jpg)

In 96, and newer, they went to the "curved" dash:

(http://img210.echo.cx/img210/385/kickdash964cg.jpg)
Title: Re: New member w/ Sidekick questions:
Post by: mesjr2004 on April 12, 2005, 11:46:34 AM
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...and this is what you are NOT looking for:

([url]http://img108.echo.cx/img108/9190/8valve6ad.jpg[/url])



HOLEY $HIT THAT IS CLEAN
Title: Re: New member w/ Sidekick questions:
Post by: jonald on April 15, 2011, 07:48:17 PM
The "Sidekick Sport" models are the least popular for building, as they have wider spacing on the frame members, and there are a lot fewer upgrade options for them.


What types of aftermarket parts are different? It seems that the OME lifts are compatible and since the Rocky Road lift web page shows a Sport, I'm guessing the body lifts are similar.

Are aftermarket bumpers compatible?

Are the axles interchangeable?

Thanks,
Title: Re: New member w/ Sidekick questions:
Post by: bentparts on April 16, 2011, 04:06:35 AM
anyone else wonder how this got resurrected ? Still think there are bugs in the system.
Title: Re: New member w/ Sidekick questions:
Post by: wildgoody on April 16, 2011, 06:32:42 AM
Looks like Jonald replied to a post not realizing it was 6 years old.

That's the problem with the search, it digs up some really old stuff  ;)
Title: Re: New member w/ Sidekick questions:
Post by: Jluck on April 16, 2011, 06:35:37 AM
I think anyone can post on any thread regardless of age and irrelevance.therefor putting a 6 year old thread right back in our face.kinda annoying I agree.
I did it once not realizing the age of a thread :-[
Title: Re: New member w/ Sidekick questions:
Post by: jonald on April 16, 2011, 06:54:07 AM
Looks like Jonald replied to a post not realizing it was 6 years old.

That's the problem with the search, it digs up some really old stuff  ;)

I realize the original post was an old one. My question was not answered by my search and since my question is related to the original thread, it seemed appropriate to include what had already been discussed.

My question is still valid.  While searching for a Sidekick, I'm finding a lot of Sport models for sale.  I'm not going to build a hardcore rig, just an economical DD that I can use for search and rescue.  I will want to lift it enough for 235s, I may want a bumper, I might want to swap in my spare diesel engine, and I might want to add lockers. And I know that I might also want to get carried away.

So, if anyone knows the answer... What kind of aftermarket parts are not compatible between a standard Sidekick and a Sport model?

Thanks,
Title: Re: New member w/ Sidekick questions:
Post by: Jluck on April 16, 2011, 07:35:09 AM
 the frame widths are different therefor suspention components are also different. Im sure something as generic as body or coil spacers are very similar and useable.I like the 1.8l motor alot more than the 1.6's so this is the route I would go if I were doing it again.(a sport).Just plan on all custom work for a sas.
Title: Re: New member w/ Sidekick questions:
Post by: Tom Slick on April 18, 2011, 03:27:28 PM
Title: Re: New member w/ Sidekick questions:
Post by: Tom Slick on April 18, 2011, 03:32:50 PM
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b81/tbush/IMG_0059.jpg)
Title: Re: New member w/ Sidekick questions:
Post by: Jluck on April 18, 2011, 04:23:04 PM
very nice rig!
Title: Re: New member w/ Sidekick questions:
Post by: jonald on April 18, 2011, 07:24:21 PM