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Title: R&P ?'s
Post by: Guardrail on June 23, 2005, 06:54:22 PM
I own an '01 Tracker with the 2.0 I-4 and a 5 speed.  I was wondering what axle ratios were available for it.  I was under the impression that I could use any R&P from any Suzi, but I gather that is not the case by some of the posts here.  Any info is helpful.  
Thanks in advance,
Bri.
Title: Re: R&P ?'s
Post by: nc_zuk on June 24, 2005, 02:30:56 AM
Have a look at this. http://www.zukiworld.com/section_technical/technical_spec_vitara.htm

It says you have 4.875 R&P in your model. The Autos came with 5.12's
Title: Re: R&P ?'s
Post by: Mythose on June 24, 2005, 03:43:48 AM
that is backwards from the 89 - 98 models?
Title: Re: R&P ?'s
Post by: nc_zuk on June 24, 2005, 04:17:01 AM
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that is backwards from the 89 - 98 models?


I dunno, I got the info from here in Zukiworlds Teck Specs pages ???
Title: Re: R&P ?'s
Post by: blacknight on June 24, 2005, 05:49:08 AM
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that is backwards from the 89 - 98 models?


Yup that's right  :)
George
Title: Re: R&P ?'s
Post by: Mythose on June 24, 2005, 08:18:26 AM
odd ::) but so is plastic surgery to reduce bust size? WHY?
Title: Re: R&P ?'s
Post by: Guardrail on June 24, 2005, 04:26:23 PM
Thanks for the info guys ;), but I was wanting to know if 5.38's or 5.83's will fit my axles.  Anybody know? ???
Title: Re: R&P ?'s
Post by: Guardrail on June 25, 2005, 05:43:37 PM
Common guys, a little help here? ::)
Title: Re: R&P ?'s
Post by: wildgoody on June 26, 2005, 09:15:02 AM
5.38s fit the Sammy carrier
the 5.83 fit sidekick carrier
but I don't know if they changed
the carrier on the new(er) models

Wild
Title: Re: R&P ?'s
Post by: blacknight on June 26, 2005, 11:58:17 PM
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Thanks for the info guys ;), but I was wanting to know if 5.38's or 5.83's will fit my axles.  Anybody know? ???


What size tires are you going for??? and the 5.38 and 5.8 should work.
George
Title: Re: R&P ?'s
Post by: Guardrail on June 27, 2005, 11:00:17 AM
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What size tires are you going for???

I am planning on using a Calmini 2.5" lift in conjunction with 1 1/8" coil spacers and a 2" body lift from RRO.  That should provide enough clearance for 31"-32" tires with minimal trimming, don't you think?
Title: Re: R&P ?'s
Post by: SnoFalls on June 27, 2005, 11:30:27 AM
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I am planning on using a Calmini 2.5" lift in conjunction with 1 1/8" coil spacers and a 2" body lift from RRO.  That should provide enough clearance for 31"-32" tires with minimal trimming, don't you think?


you shuld be fine with that ... trimming should get you 100% non-rub. I'd suggest 32x11.50 and trim to that. (you could also try 1.75 spacers if needed).
Title: Re: R&P ?'s
Post by: Guardrail on June 28, 2005, 01:16:58 PM
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(you could also try 1.75 spacers if needed).

Would this cause CV angle issues? ???  And where can I get some?
Title: Re: R&P ?'s
Post by: Mikerpm4x4 on June 28, 2005, 05:54:07 PM
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I am planning on using a Calmini 2.5" lift in conjunction with 1 1/8" coil spacers and a 2" body lift from RRO.  That should provide enough clearance for 31"-32" tires with minimal trimming, don't you think?



Do not add the coil spacers. Mabey a 1/2 inch spacer but not a 1 1/8 spacer! The inner tierods will have too much angle, plus it will ride like a dumptruck. the 99 up rigs are a completely different animal than the 98 and older.

Mike
Title: Re: R&P ?'s
Post by: Rhinoman on June 30, 2005, 12:11:06 AM
I have a GV steel front, I used the complete GV diff assembly with the 5:83 R&Ps that I bought for the old shape Track/Kick. Went straight in there (according to the man that did the fitting). Don't know about the rear though.
Title: Re: R&P ?'s
Post by: Guardrail on June 30, 2005, 01:11:18 PM
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Do not add the coil spacers. Mabey a 1/2 inch spacer but not a 1 1/8 spacer! The inner tierods will have too much angle, plus it will ride like a dumptruck. the 99 up rigs are a completely different animal than the 98 and older.

Mike

Puts too much angle on the inner tie rods?  I would have figured they would be engineered to work at full droop of the Calmini suspension.  Full droop won't change, I will just lose down travel.  

It will change some if I add OME struts, but Gear has this combo and I haven't heard of any probs.  Does it cause excess wear, or does it break them?  I know Gear was saying he was going to add 30mm spacers to his Calmini lift with OME struts, I would like to get your thoughts if you are out there.  Anyone......Anyone.... ???
Title: Re: R&P ?'s
Post by: Gear on June 30, 2005, 01:31:33 PM
I added 15mm to the front (have 30mm on one side because of sagged spring) and only used the OME struts with no strut spacer (OME = OEM + Calmini strut spacer).  anymore and you'll always be maxing out the strut over any little bump.
Title: Re: R&P ?'s
Post by: Gear on June 30, 2005, 01:33:32 PM
i've had more trouble with the rear on the GV, 3 trips, 3 snapped axles  :'(

Title: Re: R&P ?'s
Post by: Guardrail on June 30, 2005, 02:26:38 PM
Sorry to hear about the snapped axles.  So you use the OME struts without the spacers?  Does that leave you enough down travel?  By maxing out the strut, do you mean on compression or extension?
Would also like to see current pics if you have any.
Title: Re: R&P ?'s
Post by: Guardrail on June 30, 2005, 02:29:34 PM
Almost forgot, any steering probs?
Title: Re: R&P ?'s
Post by: Mikerpm4x4 on June 30, 2005, 04:02:29 PM
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Puts too much angle on the inner tie rods?  I would have figured they would be engineered to work at full droop of the Calmini suspension.  Full droop won't change, I will just lose down travel.  

It will change some if I add OME struts, but Gear has this combo and I haven't heard of any probs.  Does it cause excess wear, or does it break them?  I know Gear was saying he was going to add 30mm spacers to his Calmini lift with OME struts, I would like to get your thoughts if you are out there.  Anyone......Anyone.... ???



With a 1 1/8th spacer in the front it will totally top out the strut. The lower arm works as a fulcrum. A spacer of that size will equal around 3 inches at the wheel. Thats why I said 1/2 inch at the most. That will only be a little over an inch.

OME struts added to the Calmini kit will guarantee a bent Idler the first time out wheeling. Sky MFG makes a bulletproof Idler for less than $100. Actually I would strongly recomend the sky idler with any lifted kick. :P

Mike
Title: Re: R&P ?'s
Post by: Guardrail on June 30, 2005, 04:42:25 PM
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OME struts added to the Calmini kit will guarantee a bent Idler the first time out wheeling. Sky MFG makes a bulletproof Idler for less than $100. Actually I would strongly recomend the sky idler with any lifted kick. :P

Mike

Does Sky MFG build an Idler arm for a GV with rack and pinion?  If so, where can I get one?
Title: Re: R&P ?'s
Post by: Gear on June 30, 2005, 07:37:37 PM
we are talking about the Grand Vitara (99-) not the pre 99 Vitara/tracker?

Title: Re: R&P ?'s
Post by: wildgoody on June 30, 2005, 08:01:33 PM
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Does Sky MFG build an Idler arm for a GV with rack and pinion?  If so, where can I get one?



Rack and pinion doesn't have an idler arm

Wild
Title: Re: R&P ?'s
Post by: Guardrail on July 01, 2005, 12:24:51 PM
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Rack and pinion doesn't have an idler arm

Wild

DUH :-[ :-[ :-[ :-*
Title: Re: R&P ?'s
Post by: Mikerpm4x4 on July 01, 2005, 06:02:01 PM
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DUH :-[ :-[ :-[ :-*

OOps! Sorry, it was late and I was tired! :-[ i still stand by my statemant about the spacers. ;)

Mike