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ZUKIWORLD Model Specific Suzuki Forum => Suzuki XL-7 (Gen. 1 Platform) 2001-2006 => Topic started by: blacknight on December 31, 2004, 01:48:32 AM
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OK I've been doing some thinking and looking at these pics and here's what I have come up with.
He used 3x3x3x1/4 box tube with a large hole in the bottomit to make room for the bolt head a 1/2 thick 2in dia. pice weilded to the bottom. The rubber spacer is about 1in think and 3in dia. (This I just need to find a place to get it from. )
I don't think that would be to hard to make. It's the spacer for the strut trower brace that's going to be a b*tch. So if I do this I guess I could one of two way make the brace (some how) or cut the wheel well. Hummmm.
Any thoughts anyone???
George
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Hey George,
I almost have everything to start on mine. I think I am planning on cutting well a bit so that the brace will just fit in with a coaxing. That was my biggest hurdle I could see as well before I start. The other one being the front brake lines. The only way I can see do this is to order a brake tubing bender (that you can borrow after I am done) to put a slight kick down in the hard tubing and redrilling the well to get that extra 2" needed. The only problem then will be the tabs for securing the line. I am looking at maybe some zip ties for this or spring bound clip. Lots O pix will be coming soon. I hop to start this weekend if weather permits. If not I will wait and take some time from work to get 'er done! ;D
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When I talked with Tim who has done a 3" bd lift on a GV. All he did was redrill the hole down 3" and repassed the brake line through the wheel well wall to the engine bay.
George
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Yep, that's what I was talking about doing. I was wondering about the clips though that hold the line to the strut and the top of the spring cup. How is he keeping the line from flopping around in there?
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....snip.... It's the spacer for the strut trower brace that's going to be a b*tch.  So if I do this I guess I could one of two way make the brace (some how) or cut the wheel well.  Hummmm.
Any thoughts anyone???
George ÂÂ
I've come up with a plan. Since the stock XL7 upper strut mount is rather large in comparison to the Trackick, you could adapt a plate to sandwhich between them. This will lower the upper mount of the strut by 2+". The large strut nut on top will sit inside the XL7 mount. The plate will have to be spaced enough to clear the nuts for the Trackick mount from the XL7 mount and that's it. Simple enough. I've cut some plate, need to clean up the cuts, drill some holes, pop out the Trackick studs, paint the plate, adapt the plate to the strut and XL7 mount. Then I could keep the truss.
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.....SNIP...... Then I could keep the truss.
???All I have to say is, I guess I am more of a visual person. I can't picture at all what your talking about. Got any pics or can you do a simple drawing?
Thanks in advance.
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I'll get some pics together tonight. However, it won't be with the XL7 mount. This is due that I'm still using the vehicle. However, in my webshots, I've got comparisons side by side of the 2 upper mounts.
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Here are some pics I was referring to
(http://www.eye-irritant.com/august2004/strut upper mount1.jpg)
Picture of the Trackick upper mount and lock washer and the cut plate. The outer figure of the plate still needs trimming to make it a little neater along with holes drilled. 6 holes will be drilled, 3 for the Trackick, and 3 for the XL7's strut mount. I don't have an XL7's upper mount free to add to the picture, I'm currently using both of mine.
(http://www.eye-irritant.com/august2004/strut upper mount2.jpg)
The idea of the Trackick mount bolting from underneath. It's kinda high here in the pic due to the studs which haven't been pushed out. But the Trackick will be bolted to the underside of the plate.
The XL7's will be mounted to the top of the plate. The bolts securing the XL7's mount will be longer and there will be a small spacer between the plate and the mount. This is due to the nuts holding the Trackick bolts. Also, since both mounts are triangular shaped, I'll offset the holes.
(http://www.eye-irritant.com/august2004/strut upper mount3.jpg)
Gives the impression of the offset. The XL7's will be drilled into the larger corners.
What this will do is keep the XL7's mount in its stock location, thus use the stock cross brace support.
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nomaad so what happened to those pics of your 2"bd lift???
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They are coming, I am just back to work today. Been down with the flu for the past week. Now everyone in the house has it. Busy, busy. But while the boss is away, I will play and try to get the write up done today. Boy was that a rhime or what?! ::)
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Alright here is a link to the prelim document. I am still fine tuning but it will get you started I think. It is a PDF and you will need Acrobat to view it. If you don't already have it you can download the reader at adobe.com for free. Any insight or other issues that need to be covered let me know. I will be putting up the bumper reinstall stuff tomorrow.
http://www.carneyco.com/NomaadRROBLInstall.pdf
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Good write up !!!
George
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BEFORE:
(http://www.carneyco.com/truck/home.jpg)
AFTER:
(http://www.carneyco.com/truck/after2.jpg)
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Also put up a new PDF with some spelling corrections and a couple of other pics.
http://www.carneyco.com/NomaadRROBLInstall.pdf
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Awsome job there Nomaad. I've been debating on whether I want to install a body lift this summer, or just coil spacer. Having a good detailed right up like this is going to help out a lot.
Is there anything you had to look out for with the air bags and the front bumper?
And not specifically related to the body lift, but if you are putting 32's on soon maybe you know. What are you doing with your spare, and how big of a spare can you fit on the stock mount for the spare?
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I commend you for taking on such a job as well as documenting it. Haven't read through it all, but scrolled through it rather quickly.
See that you had to mod the frame's center body mounts. Did you happen to get a picture of the overall height you had to lift the body off the frame to get those spacers in there? Not a close up, but a good overall show how high. If you recall, I mentioned this since those studs are so long.
For the picture of afterwards, it looks great.
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MapleBear I have a 235/70 on the spare mount right now and looks like I have about 2" left down to the bumper cover. It will be tight but I am planning a rear bumper with swing away arm anyhow. Until I can get that completed I may just run with the cover off. I am pretty sure I will have the room then.
Jag, no pics of the lift I think, I will go back through the originals and see though. It was about 5 or 6" off the frame though. I may have been too worried about it falling to take any pics. It was kinda teetering and I was on my own that weekend. One thing to note is that the #2 mount (between the tires, in the front) is much lower on the frame the rear mounts. When it was up I could put all the spacers in (including the very front) but still about an inch needed to get the #2 in.
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Also, the first time I took the front bumper off, I disconnected the - battery terminal and the two plugs under the dash to the bags. Once the bumper was off I found no sensors in or around the bumper.
There is one thing I need to add though. On the 2001 XL the 4x4 engagement compressor is attached to the front bumper. You will need to unplug the 2 air lines and disconnect the power to it before removing it. I am updating the PDF with this info as well. I will have a new one up sometime today.
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Looking good ;D Also what did you do for the bumper you started to write about but jump right to the RRO steering fix.
George
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Here ya go. This is the whole thing up to where I am right now. Covers struts and front bumper.
http://www.carneyco.com/ProjectNomaad.pdf
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nomaad,
One more ?? for you. When you did the 2" lift were the studs still poking out the bottom of the frame rail mounts. Because on the sidekick they don't and our body stud is about 1" longer so what I was thinking was to get the 2" lift kit and add a 1" spacer to it or I may just get a 3" spacer and replace their's.
I realy need to make my mind up on this as I what to have it done by Gonzookin in june. So it's either a 2, 3, or 3 1/2 lift I just don't know??? 3 1/2 looks like the easest to make but is that too high. Hummmm
George
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The body stud was flush with the bottom of the bottom rubber. Make any sense? What I mean is, it wasn't poking out but you could see the tip was flush with the very bottom.
I can tell ya with another inch and you will be doing a lot of modifications. You will need a to extend the air lines to the 4x4 pump. You will need to get you a brake line tubing bender so that you can bend the one I mentioned at the frame and then possibly have to put a kick in the ones at the fender wells to move them down enough. Also you would have to get a different steering extension. The airbox would have to be raised or an intake bought or made. You may also run into some issues with the wiring and hoses on the back firewall. The radiator would also become a concern, especially with AC lines. I don't know about yours but my high side is all connected to the front of the radiator, I would imagine the soft lines would get kinda tight. The E-brake would probably have to hang free or drop brackets made up to mount the cable to. The fuel filler would have to be extended as well. Hope this helps you make up your mind.