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Title: Gas mileage...whats yours?
Post by: zaggy on July 18, 2005, 04:15:49 PM
It's been bugging me.....

     That I seem to be getting dramatically better gas mileage than everyone else that I've heard comment.......then it dawned on me.......I work out everything to a CANADIAN gallon.

The Canadian gallon is 20% bigger so my 38mpg is really 31mpg US gallon

Hows that compare?

The wifes unit is a 1992 SideKick 4 dr, 1.6/16v, 5 speed, 4X4 of course.
- P215-75-15 all terrains
- K/N Aircleaner
- 2" Exhaust with Turbo muffler

Zag
Title: Re: Gas mileage...whats yours?
Post by: cj on July 18, 2005, 05:11:42 PM
My '93 4dr 1.6 16v auto
-31x10.5 Muddies
-5.125 Diffs

28mpg US
Title: Re: Gas mileage...whats yours?
Post by: Suzuki1.8 on July 18, 2005, 05:28:38 PM
my 97 sidekick sport 4dr 1.8liter gets 26mph 225/30/20 tires
Title: Re: Gas mileage...whats yours?
Post by: echojeff on July 18, 2005, 05:48:51 PM
95' 4dr kick JLX 5speed 16v 1.6
215-75-15 wranglers
27-28mpg, but my speedo is ailing.

Went on a 340 mi trip to the mountains, with about 20mi in 4wd, 60mi more on dirt road,
crossing the Colorado continental divide 3 times, and a pass at over 12,000 feet, 30.4 mpg!
Zag, you get better mpg than me. I need to get a new cat back system, I was thinking of calmini's.Do you have a better suggestion?  About 2 ft of my tail pipe rusted off, and looks as if there is rustage around seam of the muffler. Is your k/n filter a separate unit or a drop in the old air box kind.  After reading about the snorkel thing, does the zuke need that box and other extra tubing in the wheel well? I am also looking at new tires before winter, and I want 235's but I worry about rubbing.  I am thinking of doing the spring spacer thing this winter. Would that help?
Jeff
Title: Re: Gas mileage...whats yours?
Post by: Agent Orange on July 18, 2005, 06:07:56 PM
ok zaggy

33 litres took me 382km do the math for me thanks in mpg

 :)
Title: Re: Gas mileage...whats yours?
Post by: zaggy on July 18, 2005, 06:36:21 PM
Thats 25.4 mpUSg according to my calculator...

Zag
Title: Re: Gas mileage...whats yours?
Post by: derekj on July 18, 2005, 06:50:41 PM
our gas mileage is around 25-28mpg with 31's and a five speed
Title: Re: Gas mileage...whats yours?
Post by: trackinstile on July 18, 2005, 06:55:12 PM
I get between 25 to 28 the best in my 2000 with the four and a stick and my wifes XL-7 with an automatic and power everything gets about 21 sometimes a little better sometimes a little worse, but never less than 20 ;D
Title: Re: Gas mileage...whats yours?
Post by: wildgoody on July 18, 2005, 07:36:29 PM
Mine is an 89' automatic TBI 1.6 8V
brand new never got better than 23
mostly 21-23

Now with 33" tires, 5.83 gears total
of 7 inches of lift and the turbo I get
18-20 highway, all considered I didn't
think that was a big MPG price to pay
for the mods, and the power, well it's
worth the drop to pass Jeeps on the
Steeps   ;D

Wild
Title: Re: Gas mileage...whats yours?
Post by: zaggy on July 18, 2005, 08:21:14 PM
Echojeff

     The Calmini stuff looks good but I've never used it. I always get my stuff done locally because
1) I'm cheap
2) I always try to support the local racers that support me and there's a bunch in the exhaust
    biz.

    If it was me and you have a good exhaust shop that the rodders and racers use I'd go for a 2 1/8" tube from the CAT back and use a "Turbo Style" good quality muffler....my complete system from the manifold back...installed...only cost $200.00.
    If there is no one in your area with a good rep or they are crazy expensive the Calmini system does look like a good option...ask around on the board for guys that have used it.

     My airfilter is the KN replacement filter in the stock airbox with a couple extra 2" holes drilled in it.
     I use NGK plugs ( the V fire not the platinum or multi prong) NGK 8mm wires and keep the pig in time and clean.

By the way I cruise the Hi Way at 120-130km (about 70-75mph)

Zag
Title: Re: Gas mileage...whats yours?
Post by: Agent Orange on July 18, 2005, 09:57:34 PM
Thats 25.4 mpUSg according to my calculator...

Zag

thanks zag

that's pretty good milage for me considering it's all city miles in vancouver with all the hill and traffic. i also drove it harder during that tank of gas, usually i'm lite on the gas pedal and never rev it past 3000rpm. i also fill it way before it needs to so i never really new what my milage was, i always figured it was around 25mpg  :)

i'm going to be installing my calmini header in the next few weeks, and a complete new exhaust 2" with a high flow cat, and muffler. i can't wait to see what kind of power, and milage gains i get.
Title: Re: Gas mileage...whats yours?
Post by: zaggy on July 18, 2005, 10:06:31 PM
Awesome....that should make a big improvement if you don't drive the !|removethispart|@$%^ outof it with all the new found power.

Zag
Title: Re: Gas mileage...whats yours?
Post by: Digger on July 18, 2005, 10:19:22 PM
the goblin running 33's on a 8 valve engine, 5spd and 5.12's, with K&N drop -in filter and a header with full 2-1/4" exhaust, through all the hills around here, I get about 17mpg without correcting for the speedo being off 15mph at 60mph...
Title: Re: Gas mileage...whats yours?
Post by: Agent Orange on July 18, 2005, 10:23:15 PM
yup after hearing a few times on this board how a cat back makes a huge improvement. i'm doing a complete upgrade from head to tailpipe. i'll report in after the installation.
Title: Re: Gas mileage...whats yours?
Post by: ksa421 on July 19, 2005, 02:00:52 AM
With the 8v and 32s i got about 20mpg, but as soon as I get diesel swap on the road I should get over 30 I was told.. :)
Title: Re: Gas mileage...whats yours?
Post by: Zukipilot on July 19, 2005, 03:29:10 AM
My X-90 gets 25-28 MPG running at 75-85 mph. But my Kick gets about half that.

Zig
Title: Re: Gas mileage...whats yours?
Post by: zaggy on July 19, 2005, 07:28:57 AM
Man
     I understand why my mp "Canadian"gallon shocked everybody even when I convert to US I'm still doing real well.

     I know raising the vehicles will hurts the aerodynamics and will hurt gas mileage...do you think the rest is the larger diameter tires making the little engine work harder?

Any thoughts............

Zag
Title: Re: Gas mileage...whats yours?
Post by: Cwkick on July 19, 2005, 07:48:03 AM
Man
     I understand why my mp "Canadian"gallon shocked everybody even when I convert to US I'm still doing real well.

     I know raising the vehicles will hurts the aerodynamics and will hurt gas mileage...do you think the rest is the larger diameter tires making the little engine work harder?

Any thoughts............

Zag

More rolling resistance, more unsprung weight, less aerodynamic do to lift, more vehicle weight do to lift, skid plates, rollbars.

I am also wondering if everyone is taking into account that the taller tires give you less revs per mile.

Also, without gear correction, the larger tires are making the RPM lower.  Basiclly "lugging" the engine.  So we are not in the meat of the torque curve anymore.

All that being said,  my uncorrected mileage is about 26.   ;D

Cwkick
Title: Re: Gas mileage...whats yours?
Post by: zaggy on July 19, 2005, 08:08:20 AM
All things considered one has to be impressed...........

     Very capable, modified, 4X4's getting 20-25 mpg US, that is impressive

Thanks
Zag
Title: Re: Gas mileage...whats yours?
Post by: chet on July 19, 2005, 08:17:18 AM
I see that alot of people are not correcting for larger tires. You are actually getting better mileage than you thought! I 30" tire will travel farther than your stock tire will per revolution so what ever your odometer says you need to add what ever % in tire size difference you have.

I travel the same route to work every day and usually get 3.5 days to a tank full this was before the lift and tires. I am still basically the same so my mileage is still arouns 25-28 MPG(us)
Title: Re: Gas mileage...whats yours?
Post by: Zukipilot on July 19, 2005, 10:07:25 AM
Both of my speedo's are near dead on. My mileage suffers due to high mileage on the engines and driving my vehicles WAY to hard. My Kick is usually has the pedal on the floor where ever I go and the X-90 is 0-75 as fast as I can get there then hold it at 75-85 mph for 90 miles twice a day. If I would slow down a bit I think my mileage would increase dramatically.

Zig
Title: Re: Gas mileage...whats yours?
Post by: Dihnekis on July 19, 2005, 11:26:55 AM
I get between 28-30 in my stock 2wd tracker.
Title: Re: Gas mileage...whats yours?
Post by: hcgalvin on July 19, 2005, 12:17:25 PM
18mpg
Title: Re: Gas mileage...whats yours?
Post by: SnoFalls on July 19, 2005, 01:12:04 PM
I'm about 20mpg on hiways ... about .5 gph while trail running.

(31" tires, steel wheels, really tired 8V)
Title: Re: Gas mileage...whats yours?
Post by: 89sammy on July 19, 2005, 01:37:58 PM
with a 186,000 miles I get 29.5 with 30's around town and 25 at about 75mph highway driving, with my 8v.
Title: Re: Gas mileage...whats yours?
Post by: cj on July 19, 2005, 03:49:49 PM
My 28 mpg with 31's is a corrected figure. I thought mine was a bit thirsty but I'm feeling better now  :) still want a long range tank though as jerrys take up space.
Title: Re: Gas mileage...whats yours?
Post by: Suzuki1.8 on July 19, 2005, 06:13:46 PM
Man the 1.8 must get crappy gas mileage. :-[ Because mine has been lowered at has no bigger tires then stock. I was thinking maybe the twenties added weight would bring it down. But i get the same as before adding the twenties. I think the best i ever pulled was 27 28 average is 24-26
Title: Re: Gas mileage...whats yours?
Post by: ZeusZuki on July 28, 2005, 08:51:55 PM
Just in case you wanted to know what stock kick's / X90 give. My 1600, 16V 4 door gives 28 MPG around town, my 2.0 V6 gives 26 MPG around town, my X90 gives me 35 MPG around town. I am happy with these figures.
Title: Re: Gas mileage...whats yours?
Post by: 99tracker on July 29, 2005, 05:41:05 PM
i never really figured out my mpg but i'll get about 550km to a tank of gas in somer and about 400km in winter if i dont get sidways in every corner i come to witch i find hard to do 99 tracker 2.0litre
Title: Re: Gas mileage...whats yours?
Post by: Utah_Tracker on July 29, 2005, 09:48:54 PM
23 mph before the lift and 31' tires and much abuse,
Now it gets 18-20 around town, about 16 highway (it has to work real hard to maintain highway speeds).  While running mostly trails, not the rocks, I still get about 18 MPH.  It's an odd little duck, but seems to run better as soon as I leave pavement.

Utah
Title: Re: Gas mileage...whats yours?
Post by: cj on July 30, 2005, 03:41:18 AM
23 mph before the lift and 31' tires and much abuse,
Now it gets 18-20 around town, about 16 highway (it has to work real hard to maintain highway speeds).  While running mostly trails, not the rocks, I still get about 18 MPH.  It's an odd little duck, but seems to run better as soon as I leave pavement.

Utah

Man that rig of yours is SLOW  ;)
Title: Re: Gas mileage...whats yours?
Post by: Utah_Tracker on July 30, 2005, 07:19:16 AM
Yeah it's kinda slow :o, but mostly it's the nut behind the Wheel ;D

Utah
Title: Re: Gas mileage...whats yours?
Post by: keith on August 29, 2006, 08:56:32 AM
I've been trying do decide if I want to get a newish Jeep or not so I've been researching their gas milage.  Their 4 is lucky to get 20 mpg on a stock vehicle and the 6 gets more like 16 mpg.  I will be staying with Zuk's at that rate!  My Tracker with emissions issues gets 19-20 mpg in summer but can go as low as 15 in the winter.  2 newer ones (99+) I've driven both got around 24-25 mpg.
Title: Re: Gas mileage...whats yours?
Post by: stock93tracker on August 29, 2006, 09:38:41 AM
I only get 20 average with my near stocker...  I need a new O2 sensor and I beleive the exhaust is shot, perhaps that makes the difference.
Title: Re: Gas mileage...whats yours?
Post by: bus_driver on August 29, 2006, 10:01:17 AM
i am not sure any more what mine is last year i used to do 350km on 33-35 litres now I seem to never get over 300kms but mostly I drove around town with flat tires and a bad o2 sensor so now I have pumped up the tires to 28psi (not 16 anymore) I am running 235's and a straight 2inch exhaust no cat . just replaced the O2 and now I will see what it is. but I will admit I am heavy on the skinny pedal. I am very binary on these things full on or full off.

will tell at the end of this tank.
Title: Re: Gas mileage...whats yours?
Post by: Quaddawg on August 29, 2006, 10:45:37 AM
The "new" 96 with stock tires get 25.5 average, mostly highway. BUT, the TCC isn't locking correctly, and I have an EGR issue.. it might increase a little when I get those things ironed out.

I think there is a conspiracy, as my full size 96 Lincoln Town Car got 25, with a 4.6, and my F-150, with nearly the same motor as the Lincoln, and about the same weight, gets all of 16...... lol...

I miss my 40mpg metro!!!

Who knows what the "Turtle" gets... something like a weekend on a tank, with some left over.. lol...
Title: Re: Gas mileage...whats yours?
Post by: urbanwheeler on August 29, 2006, 11:04:02 AM
mine has the 8 v motor. for a while it got 24to 25, then after I tuned it up (new spark plugs, o2 sensor, exhaust manifold, and cherry bomb muffler(not as loud as I had expected)) it got about 26 to 28, and one time while I was driving in the mountains, I saw 29 mpg. Probably the worst I have seen was 17 or 18, but that was when it was running on 3 cylinders :P. the tires I have are 215/75r15s
Title: Re: Gas mileage...whats yours?
Post by: reb on August 29, 2006, 11:37:56 AM
My '98 Sport gets a consistent 33 mpg on the highway, a bit less climbing mountain passes, a bit more downhill.  That is driving 55 to 60 mph.  It is a stock 5-spd, with slightly larger than stock tires.  Sure appreciate that kind of mileage with gas prices where they are.  Trouble is, the wife would rather run it around than her Nissan pickup.
Title: Re: Gas mileage...whats yours?
Post by: muskegtracker on August 29, 2006, 11:40:46 AM
235/75-15s & turbo |removethispart|@ 6psi getting roughly 20-27mpg depending entirely on the foot. ;D
Title: Re: Gas mileage...whats yours?
Post by: 96Kicker on August 29, 2006, 12:25:33 PM
94 8 valve 5 speed ,5:125 3rds 235-75-15 tires .............20-24 MPG
when I get my 32s on and a spool it will prob be 15 MPG
Title: Re: Gas mileage...whats yours?
Post by: Carnage on August 29, 2006, 12:28:41 PM
23mpg consistant with my low-pro 18s

wish it was better
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Title: Re: Gas mileage...whats yours?
Post by: Uncivilized on August 29, 2006, 12:38:59 PM
My new Sunrunner 16v is at 28mpg now that I have the 235-75's on it. It was getting close to 30mpg with the stock 205-75's.  A huge improvment over my 92 8v on 30-9.5 getting 17/18mpg.
Title: Re: Gas mileage...whats yours?
Post by: nils on August 29, 2006, 12:49:16 PM
mine's....

too terrible for words  :-\
Title: Re: Gas mileage...whats yours?
Post by: Jimiweld on August 29, 2006, 02:58:04 PM
1990 8 valve  automatic 3 spd with 5.125 gears with 31" trxus tires gets 20MPG or 11.5litres /100kms .mostly highway
Title: Re: Gas mileage...whats yours?
Post by: 4njeep on August 29, 2006, 03:19:35 PM
i have a 92 1.6l 8v auto, with 235/75/15 tires and 5.125 gears, i have been getting around 28 mpg. the best i have seen is 31. :)
Title: Re: Gas mileage...whats yours?
Post by: CJ11 on August 29, 2006, 08:00:32 PM
My 8v got about 15 to 16 mpg and my 16v is 16 to17mpg WHAT THE F#|removethispart|@K I wish I was getting 20 to 28 mpg..............................