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ZUKIWORLD Discussion Forum => Suzuki 4x4 Forum => Topic started by: Suzuki1.8 on September 20, 2005, 04:54:43 PM
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Well i found out some bad news today. A customer of mine wanted to put some wheels on a brand new vitara. So i was thinking our good old 5 on5.5 pattern cause its a suzuki. So i went there to check it out cause there is no fitment guide out for them yet. Well i was shocked to find out its a 5x115. Starting looking at it closer it is a chevy exinoux. I for one think its a sad day for suzuki. I am not a fan of the chevy exinoux at all. SO happy trying to lift a front wheel drive suv with a +40 offset. We might as well starting building ford escapes and libertys if this is the trend.
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Suzuki shares the same platform but it's not FWD. Also an Escape and a liberty are not even on the same page. Liberty may be unibody but it still has a real 4wd system JUST LIKE the new Suzuki.
Keep this in mind... XJ's, TJ's, and ZJ's all use a Unit hub bearing. Same one found on the Dodge Caravans and the like... Same 5x4.5" bolt pattern too. While the platform is shared the mechanicals are not. Suzuki is still a real (somewhat) 4wd vehicle even if it lost alot of it's rugged undertones.
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last time i checked it had a aqd system sorta like an escape. Real four wheel drive wheel be a selectable transfercase with hi low and netrual. not just awd and low
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last time i checked it had a aqd system sorta like an escape. Real four wheel drive wheel be a selectable transfercase with hi low and netrual. not just awd and low
My Mitsu Montero Sport has AWD, 4hi and 4 low, but no neutral. I would definitly say that the system is real 4wd. With the new Vit the only thing missing is 4 hi, but why do you really need 4 hi. Plus the low on most Zuk's is pretty high already.
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Real 4WD to me constitutes a "locked" center differential (perviously known as a transfer case). Most AWD systems (especially the electronically controlled ones) do not deliver equal force to front and rear axels when in 4WD (or AWD). If I read it correctly the '06 GV has a "lock" mode for 4WD that does provide this.
I prefer part time 4wd too, but that seems to be too much for folks to handle now a days.
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This is right from the Suzuki ad for the new GV 06
(http://www.omghi2.us/april05/ScreenHunter_002.JPG)
(http://www.omghi2.us/april05/ScreenHunter_005.JPG)
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right so does that mean that "4Hi" is using the limited slip, but "4Hi lock" is "locked" (and not limited slip?
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thats right. Also the liberty is better than the new DV as it still has a solid rear axle the GV is IRS! >:( Also its a unibody. If the frame is welded to the body its the same as a unibody.
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guys everything your showing here is a chevy suv. all i'm saying is i miss the days when suzuki made there own and made the tracker for chevys. Now its chevy making them for suzuki. might as well shop around for a used chevy equinoux and save money
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Ok, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION: Suzuki has REAL 4wd in their Theta based vehicle, Chevy/Saturn DO NOT. Suzuki is building their own version in JAPAN with their own ENGINE,TRANY,T-CASE,DIFFS... It's like the Porche and VW bug, same platform but worlds apart.
SO GM's version is all CAR (fwd transmission with a rear output-NO LO RANGE, NO LOCK) Suzuki is using the mechanicals from the XL7 with a NEW t-case that has fulltime 4wd, STILL 100% SUV even with the IS setup (how many are chucking the IFS for a solid axle? It's even easier in the rear!).
Should also note the new GV comes with 29" tall tires, XL7 has 27" tall tires. GV is better off-road than the XL7 is and appears to be more fuel effecient even though there weighing in about the same with the same drivetrain (aerodynamics).