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Title: UPS bring the BEEF!! (W/pix)
Post by: purevil71 on September 21, 2005, 07:42:59 PM
As in NEWFIELDS.....
WOW are these things ever sweet....great gob Figmo!!!
I'll post a few pix, and look for a full write up on them on I-Zook.com ;D

(http://tellico.off-road.com/wwwthreads_uploads/1453116-snapper013.jpg)
(http://tellico.off-road.com/wwwthreads_uploads/1453117-snapper015.jpg)
(http://tellico.off-road.com/wwwthreads_uploads/1453118-snapper017.jpg)
Title: Re: UPS bring the BEEF!! (W/pix)
Post by: 1bigtracker on September 21, 2005, 08:44:45 PM
some one has water in there diff.  better clean that out or you'll but installing more than just axles ;)

Stu
Title: Re: UPS bring the BEEF!! (W/pix)
Post by: purevil71 on September 21, 2005, 09:32:43 PM
WATER....ME!!!!! :o
I don't know what your talking about.....lol
Title: Re: UPS bring the BEEF!! (W/pix)
Post by: smitty808 on September 21, 2005, 10:02:50 PM
(http://www.godzuki.us/melt167.JPG)
Water?? None of us Bedford Boys EVER get in the water!!!
Title: Re: UPS bring the BEEF!! (W/pix)
Post by: purevil71 on September 21, 2005, 10:07:27 PM
NOPE...we NEVER get in the water....lol ;D
(http://www.godzuki.us/deniedbrent.JPG)
Title: Re: UPS bring the BEEF!! (W/pix)
Post by: 1bigtracker on September 22, 2005, 04:11:30 AM
OH NO! you just reminded me that my truck has been setting for 2 weeks, mostlikly with water in the diffs, trans and t-case.  (self cencored content...............................................................................................................................) DAM!

Stu
Title: Re: UPS bring the BEEF!! (W/pix)
Post by: purevil71 on September 22, 2005, 07:54:35 AM
UMMM, sorry about that man, didn't mean to cause more work for ya...unless you like that sort of thing ;D
Title: Re: UPS bring the BEEF!! (W/pix)
Post by: 1bigtracker on September 22, 2005, 12:50:07 PM
UMMM, sorry about that man, didn't mean to cause more work for ya...unless you like that sort of thing ;D
wish my digi cam worked, i just drained the rear diff, milk.

thanks for reminding me, i already lost one tranny because of it, i'll check this one out tonight and see how bad it is.

Stu
Title: Re: UPS bring the BEEF!! (W/pix)
Post by: purevil71 on September 22, 2005, 01:36:23 PM
AHHH YES...nothing quite like the smell of gear oil and water.... ;D
Title: Re: UPS bring the BEEF!! (W/pix)
Post by: 1bigtracker on September 22, 2005, 04:10:00 PM
AHHH YES...nothing quite like the smell of gear oil and water.... ;D
oh yea.

The trans and t-case was pure oil :)

The front on the other hand has about 1 1/2 inches of PURE mud in the bottom, seems i lost a diff vent hose the last time out :-\

i'm going to pull it tomarrow and dissasemble the whole thing, mabey even order the parts to install my sammy steel up front :D

Stu
Title: Re: UPS bring the BEEF!! (W/pix)
Post by: keith on September 23, 2005, 09:04:31 AM
AHHH YES...nothing quite like the smell of gear oil and water.... ;D
oh yea.

The trans and t-case was pure oil :)

The front on the other hand has about 1 1/2 inches of PURE mud in the bottom, seems i lost a diff vent hose the last time out :-\

i'm going to pull it tomarrow and dissasemble the whole thing, mabey even order the parts to install my sammy steel up front :D

Stu

What did you use to get the caps for the diff's and t-case out?  When I tried they were stuck good.
Title: Re: UPS bring the BEEF!! (W/pix)
Post by: mudfkr on September 26, 2005, 12:59:37 AM
As in NEWFIELDS.....
WOW are these things ever sweet....great gob Figmo!!!
I'll post a few pix, and look for a full write up on them on I-Zook.com ;D

Why whats so great about them ?
Title: Re: UPS bring the BEEF!! (W/pix)
Post by: purevil71 on September 26, 2005, 10:13:27 AM
Why whats so great about them ?

The inner splines are bigger (you'll need to run REAR side gears in front to make them work), cromoly, bigger birf's.  Just an all round stronger, better designed axel.
A good option for guys that would like to stick with there stock axels, but still have some beef to run a larger tire.
Title: Re: UPS bring the BEEF!! (W/pix)
Post by: mudfkr on September 26, 2005, 12:38:38 PM
Why whats so great about them ?

The inner splines are bigger (you'll need to run REAR side gears in front to make them work), cromoly, bigger birf's.  Just an all round stronger, better designed axel.
A good option for guys that would like to stick with there stock axels, but still have some beef to run a larger tire.

Well then Oh boy are you gunna be disappointed then ! ;)

Don't throw your stock ones away just yet  ;) ;)
Title: Re: UPS bring the BEEF!! (W/pix)
Post by: 1bigtracker on September 26, 2005, 12:43:56 PM
AHHH YES...nothing quite like the smell of gear oil and water.... ;D
oh yea.

The trans and t-case was pure oil :)

The front on the other hand has about 1 1/2 inches of PURE mud in the bottom, seems i lost a diff vent hose the last time out :-\

i'm going to pull it tomarrow and dissasemble the whole thing, mabey even order the parts to install my sammy steel up front :D

Stu

What did you use to get the caps for the diff's and t-case out?  When I tried they were stuck good.

after removing all the mud from the inside of the plug, i just hammered a small extension the proper size into the hole and used a long rachet.  always worked for me.

Stu
Title: Re: UPS bring the BEEF!! (W/pix)
Post by: 1bigtracker on September 26, 2005, 12:44:51 PM
Why whats so great about them ?

The inner splines are bigger (you'll need to run REAR side gears in front to make them work), cromoly, bigger birf's.  Just an all round stronger, better designed axel.
A good option for guys that would like to stick with there stock axels, but still have some beef to run a larger tire.

Well then Oh boy are you gunna be disappointed then ! ;)

Don't throw your stock ones away just yet  ;) ;)

how so, do you have facts to back up your opinion?

Stu
Title: Re: UPS bring the BEEF!! (W/pix)
Post by: mudfkr on September 26, 2005, 01:15:03 PM
Why whats so great about them ?

The inner splines are bigger (you'll need to run REAR side gears in front to make them work), cromoly, bigger birf's.  Just an all round stronger, better designed axel.
A good option for guys that would like to stick with there stock axels, but still have some beef to run a larger tire.

Well then Oh boy are you gunna be disappointed then ! ;)

Don't throw your stock ones away just yet  ;) ;)

how so, do you have facts to back up your opinion?

Stu

Seen it with my own two eye's thats good enought for me ! 
Title: Re: UPS bring the BEEF!! (W/pix)
Post by: 1bigtracker on September 26, 2005, 01:19:12 PM
Why whats so great about them ?

The inner splines are bigger (you'll need to run REAR side gears in front to make them work), cromoly, bigger birf's.  Just an all round stronger, better designed axel.
A good option for guys that would like to stick with there stock axels, but still have some beef to run a larger tire.

Well then Oh boy are you gunna be disappointed then ! ;)

Don't throw your stock ones away just yet  ;) ;)

how so, do you have facts to back up your opinion?

Stu

Seen it with my own two eye's thats good enought for me ! 

what did they break?  i'm not understanding.

Stu
Title: Re: UPS bring the BEEF!! (W/pix)
Post by: mudfkr on September 26, 2005, 01:24:33 PM
Yes it broke just back from the spline on the long side. Managed to take out the side gear of the arb too  :'(.

Title: Re: UPS bring the BEEF!! (W/pix)
Post by: purevil71 on September 26, 2005, 03:23:03 PM
see, here's the thing...I AIN'T SKEERED!!! ;D
I'm SUPPOSED to be stress testing these things for I-Zook...it's my job...lol
Title: Re: UPS bring the BEEF!! (W/pix)
Post by: mudfkr on September 26, 2005, 06:03:59 PM
see, here's the thing...I AIN'T SKEERED!!! ;D
I'm SUPPOSED to be stress testing these things for I-Zook...it's my job...lol

I'll be interested to see what you think of them then. What are the spec's of the rig your running them on ?

Our's is 89 sammy 1600 8v, 4.16 Tcase, 4.3 R&P, 32' Swampers and F+R ARB's - not opperating it on high traction sufaces eithier mainly mud and dirt.
Title: Re: UPS bring the BEEF!! (W/pix)
Post by: purevil71 on September 26, 2005, 07:53:27 PM
1.3 stock, 4.10 T-case, Rock Block, 5.12's, Locked F/R, 33x13.5x15 Swamper LTB's, loose nut behind the wheel. (probably why they picked me to test them...lol)
Title: Re: UPS bring the BEEF!! (W/pix)
Post by: flexmonger on September 26, 2005, 08:11:11 PM
   OOHH brother, with that rock block and 4:1 you gonna test them really good. Make sure you wedge it really good in the rocks and back up extremely vertical stuff.  Upgrade your hub bolts now and use loc-tite, and let the good times roll.  Lets see, you have about 140:1 crawl ratio right?  You got them in yet?
Title: Re: UPS bring the BEEF!! (W/pix)
Post by: 1bigtracker on September 27, 2005, 04:04:52 AM
so this is what your talking about

(http://bbs.zuwharrie.com/content?action=dlattach;topic=25866.0;attach=17079;image)

stu
Title: Re: UPS bring the BEEF!! (W/pix)
Post by: Zukipilot on September 27, 2005, 05:22:09 AM
see, here's the thing...I AIN'T SKEERED!!! ;D
I'm SUPPOSED to be stress testing these things for I-Zook...it's my job...lol

Rough job Huh  ;D  8)  Yea, I know, It's tough but somebody has to do it  ;) Let us know how your stress test goes.

Zig
Title: Re: UPS bring the BEEF!! (W/pix)
Post by: mudfkr on September 27, 2005, 05:49:20 AM
so this is what your talking about


stu

Yes thats the one alright.
Title: Re: UPS bring the BEEF!! (W/pix)
Post by: purevil71 on September 27, 2005, 08:39:10 AM
Rough job Huh  ;D  8)  Yea, I know, It's tough but somebody has to do it  ;) Let us know how your stress test goes.

Zig

I know you feel my pain...lol.  And it is a dirty job, but I'll do my best to bring you all the honest truth about things I test.  If it fails, you all are gonna know it, and know exactly what I was doing when it broke.

I do have them in, and I'm going to be wheeling them this weekend on one of our local trails.  As a matter of fact, we're cutting two new trails that are old creek beds and are nothing but rocks and bolders.  One creek is a run called "The Devils Kitchen" (Hells kitchen has already been used...lol) and it's where they used to run tirals bikes all the time.  There has yet to be a 4-wheel rig make it all the way up (something about a 10 foot waterfall at the end). ;D
Title: Re: UPS bring the BEEF!! (W/pix)
Post by: flexmonger on September 27, 2005, 12:28:18 PM
   Back it up the waterfall for a severe test on them.
Title: Re: UPS bring the BEEF!! (W/pix)
Post by: mudfkr on September 27, 2005, 12:56:48 PM
Rough job Huh  ;D  8)  Yea, I know, It's tough but somebody has to do it  ;) Let us know how your stress test goes.

Zig

I know you feel my pain...lol.  And it is a dirty job, but I'll do my best to bring you all the honest truth about things I test.  If it fails, you all are gonna know it, and know exactly what I was doing when it broke.

I do have them in, and I'm going to be wheeling them this weekend on one of our local trails.  As a matter of fact, we're cutting two new trails that are old creek beds and are nothing but rocks and bolders.  One creek is a run called "The Devils Kitchen" (Hells kitchen has already been used...lol) and it's where they used to run tirals bikes all the time.  There has yet to be a 4-wheel rig make it all the way up (something about a 10 foot waterfall at the end). ;D

Hey how bout after the weekend you pull the long side and check if it's started to twist  instead of just testing too destruction (I know thats the fun bit ;D) but then we'll know weather it's like ours and slowly starts screwing the spline first then grenades.
Title: Re: UPS bring the BEEF!! (W/pix)
Post by: ed oorklep on September 27, 2005, 03:38:22 PM

Hey how bout after the weekend you pull the long side and check if it's started to twist  instead of just testing too destruction (I know thats the fun bit ;D) but then we'll know weather it's like ours and slowly starts screwing the spline first then grenades.
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I'm not 100% sure on this one and I guess mufkr knows much about materials. But I learnt in school (Engineering) that breaks like that one often aren't because of the metal getting tired but just because too much force is put on it. If such an axle breaks because of bending and twisting there is a smooth surface with some smooth "Force" lines on them, but here the breakage is rough---impact break.... At least that's what they taught me, coud be mis interpretation of the picture...
Title: Re: UPS bring the BEEF!! (W/pix)
Post by: purevil71 on September 27, 2005, 07:06:45 PM
Hey how bout after the weekend you pull the long side and check if it's started to twist  instead of just testing too destruction (I know thats the fun bit ;D) but then we'll know weather it's like ours and slowly starts screwing the spline first then grenades.

I can probably to that...we'll be running Saturday, probably Saturday night, and all day on Sunday.  Should be a nice run for testing, lot of varied terrain (rocks, mud, hills, washouts, ect)
Title: Re: UPS bring the BEEF!! (W/pix)
Post by: mudfkr on October 17, 2005, 12:14:37 PM
Hey how bout after the weekend you pull the long side and check if it's started to twist  instead of just testing too destruction (I know thats the fun bit ;D) but then we'll know weather it's like ours and slowly starts screwing the spline first then grenades.

I can probably to that...we'll be running Saturday, probably Saturday night, and all day on Sunday.  Should be a nice run for testing, lot of varied terrain (rocks, mud, hills, washouts, ect)

Purevil, are you stuck out in the whop whops with a broken axle or did you make it back ?  ;D

How'd they hold up ? Do ya wana see photos of our New newfields  ;)