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ZUKIWORLD Discussion Forum => Suzuki 4x4 Forum => Topic started by: hcgalvin on March 16, 2005, 03:00:52 AM
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Did some test wheeling last night.. to see how the trucks handle on the bumpy rutted and muddy desert roads. :)
http://www.granitepath.com/photo/050315PleasantValley/index.html
(http://www.granitepath.com/photo/050315PleasantValley/DCP_6946.jpg)
(http://www.granitepath.com/photo/050315PleasantValley/DCP_6951.jpg)
Yeah.. and to get some poser shots.
:)
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Nice, great pic's of the flex and height now :o ;D
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heather i don't know if i have ever seen a post about ur engine is it stock 1.6. i am in the process of building all my brackets for my sas and have decided to use a yota pick fornt axle and a high pinion 9 inch rear. the high pinion is on order from currie and should be here soon. i have alot of questions about the final touches all the smal stuff. i am using a 5 link in the front and a four in the rear. the front is basiclly a jeep long arm setup. what steering do u use. what t-case, did u or r u going to double it, tire size ( i am planing for 37" rocs). did ya'll stretch the 2 door i am plannig for about 8" of added length. any other info u can give would be a great help.
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I can answer for Heather
Here are all the details....
The motor in her 4dr trucklet is a puny, tiny, itty bitty, teeny weeny, stock, 16valve, barely 90 hp, no cold air, no header, rice and oil burning Suzuki motor.
Behind the motor is a dual friction Centerforce clutch. Behind that is the stock 5 speed manual tranny. Behind that is the Kicker3 t-case from OTT.
Inside the Kicker3 is the Calmini 4.24:1 rock cralwer gear set. (very sweet) Behind the Kicker3 is a stock Sammy t-case. (with it's default reduction in high range)
She's running stock FJ80 axles, with Toyota gears (4.10's) on 35 inch tires (315x75xr16)
The steering is the stock power steering and box.
Brakes use the stock booster and master cylinder.
We put a high steer arm on the FJ80 knuckle from OTT and made our own drag link. We mated the FJ80 drag link with the adjustable tierod end from the sidekick. (We'd like to get a drop pitman arm from Sky Manufacturing once we get back from Moab to help reduce the bump steer)
The black 2 door, (Walts) was stretched at the frame.
It got a Chevy 283, w/turbo 350 in it. Its a full track width Dana 44 front, Dana 53 rear out of a Jeep J3000 truck.
Stock power steering box, no t-case gears, and its on 35s.
~Nate
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Dana 53 rear out of a Jeep J3000 truck.
is this a misprint? this is the second time i have heard this and never know Dana made that axle
stu
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is this a misprint? this is the second time i have heard this and never know Dana made that axle
stu
Nope, Dana "53" thats FIFTY THREE, it's usually found in Willys Pickups from 1947-1965. It has a 9.25" ring gear.
They are kinda neato, and serious old school axles, usually along with Dana 41s, and Dana 27s.
~Nate
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Yeah, I posted this in the end of the "update on Bowtie Tracker" thread.
Here's what they came out of. It's called a Jeep Gladiator, AKA: Willys/Kaiser/Jeep J3000
(http://www.jeepbrokers.com/jeep_pic_stevenson.jpg)
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do they build lockers and such for them???
stu
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cool pics! 8) great posse of suzukis
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thanks for all the info is there i site i can view with pics of the build and upgrades. how is the stock power steering doing with the 35 aired down. i was actually have a cy dana 30 fornt, a rear dana 44 out of an isuzu, a rear ford 9" out of a 71 bronco, and i am looking for a toyota front truck axle. i hate changing ring and pinions in dana axles however spider gear and locker repairs r alot esier on dana axles. i am considering to t-case options OTT tracker 3 case or machining some slip yoke eliminators. i am worried about the pinion in the toy case if i go bigger than 4.56.
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The power steering has handled it well so far. It doesn't even seem to be under strain.
As for a site with upgrades and such..
See my profile. ;)
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Did some test wheeling last night.. to see how the trucks handle on the bumpy rutted and muddy desert roads. :)
Yeah.. and to get some poser shots.
:)
Wheeling is nice.
Amazing suzuki updrage, I am impressed :o
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Cool stuff. You guys sure like to articulate, don't ya :D
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Cool stuff. You guys sure like to articulate, don't ya :D
That's "rticul8" in Bobzookispeak. Yeah, we do, because we CAN.
;)
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hey heather, i noticed you've said that you've used the stock pitman arm and stock power steering box location. have you moved the front axle forward at all? if so, how much? and do the 35's clear the firewall, or have you tubbed it for clearance when turning???
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hey heather, i noticed you've said that you've used the stock pitman arm and stock power steering box location. have you moved the front axle forward at all? if so, how much? and do the 35's clear the firewall, or have you tubbed it for clearance when turning???
Yeah, we moved the front axle forward some, I think just a few inches. Maybe 3 or 4? Um, I'll find out for you.
EDIT: from STOCK IFS, we're forward about 2-3 inches.
The 35's clear fine at the firewall, the only place where they slightly rub right now is on the Calmini bumper. We might have to get out the grinder and clearance that a little.
Since the FJ80 axles are wider, we don't have any problems turning. We had already clearanced the rear portion of the front outer fenders before we went SAS, to clear 33's. So I bet that helps in some respect there. We don't rub on the frame or the shocks. It also steers nicely.
Thanks for all your guys' comments!!
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So grab a tape and let us know what your current w.b. is and how wide it is on the out sides of your tires. ;D
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OK, so I took a tape out.
Looks like overall wheelbase (from center of front axle to center of rear axle) is 104". Stock, out of the Suzuki User Manual, is 97.6".
From outside of tread pattern to outside of tread pattern on tire width- is 73". To outsides of bubble/sidewall tread (tires are at 30psi) it's 77".
:)
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How much wider are the FJ80 axils than the stock ones?
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man that thing is wide, I think my sammy is only 55 inches wide stock and maybe 63 inches with my 33x12.5's on 2" back spaced wheels. should be stable off and on the road.
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How much wider are the FJ80 axils than the stock ones?
Stock axles are 57" wide.
FJ80 axles are 63" wide.