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Title: has anyone made a track bar for a sammy
Post by: dieselzuki999 on November 02, 2005, 04:34:08 PM
if so id like to see a pic (where its mounted and whatnot) ive been fabbin my own lift its sittin 5 inches taller now with no spoa,and using stock springs. ive hit a fabbers block on making a track bar could use some ideas! anyone  ??
Title: Re: has anyone made a track bar for a sammy
Post by: Chief on November 02, 2005, 05:07:17 PM
Why would you need one, especially sprung under? If you are having problems with your suspension, or steering, it is probably do to those big ass drop brackets you made throwing steering angles off.

A track bar shouldn;t be neededy?
Title: Re: has anyone made a track bar for a sammy
Post by: dieselzuki999 on November 03, 2005, 03:49:04 AM
the steering angles are allmost stock and the drop brackets are made from 1/4" plate, the stock hangers are maybee 1/8" also ive put sleeves inside the stock bracketsand the bolts go through them there are 3 bolts in now the pic was during install, its very solid and works well i just want to see if a track bar would help w/street use.
Title: Re: has anyone made a track bar for a sammy
Post by: mrfuelish on November 03, 2005, 01:11:23 PM
I would just weld some small square tubeing inside the middle of your front shackles if you don't have any now and if you still have problems you may still have the stock leaf spring bushings that are real soft and will give you problems.
Title: Re: has anyone made a track bar for a sammy
Post by: Chief on November 03, 2005, 04:28:10 PM
You gotta keep in mind, you are higher then stock now. If you want a street ride, add sway bars. You're also running larger tires, which will further complicate matters. Whenever you change your stock suspension, it's a compromise. You lifted it, now it won't handle as well.
Title: Re: has anyone made a track bar for a sammy
Post by: dieselzuki999 on November 03, 2005, 05:15:09 PM
the tubing in the shackles has been floating in my head guess ill try that ,this sammy is a cheap truck project so far $550 has been spent on it (that includes purchase) my outher 2 sammys are
better engineered 1 is spoa w/diesel vw other is toyota driveline engine to axles (allmost ready to be put together) thanks for the input! dzlzuk
Title: Re: has anyone made a track bar for a sammy
Post by: Digger on November 04, 2005, 09:27:01 AM
Actually your drop brackets for the leaf springs are about the same as coil spacers in effect. They just push the stock springs lower or further down from the frame, which gives you lift without drastically affecting the ride.

Do you mean a traction bar to fight axle wrap or a track bar to locate the axle side to side? The only thing you would need  traction bars for is to combat axle wrap under acceleration. That's all they do. If you don't have any axle wrap, you don't need traction bars. If you're running spring under with stock power, you probably don't have any axle wrap at all. If you are talking about a track bar for locating the axle side to side, I wouldn't worry about unless your drop brackets flex...
Title: Re: has anyone made a track bar for a sammy
Post by: dieselzuki999 on November 04, 2005, 09:45:15 PM
yea i was talking about locating axle side toside but i welded some square tubing inside my el cheapo lift shackles and that did just what i wanted ,im in the process of making my own foldingshackles (missing link) just have to make em beefy enough to take a beatin and be safe to use on the road
Title: Re: has anyone made a track bar for a sammy
Post by: wildgoody on November 05, 2005, 07:40:58 AM
In the auto handling circles, a side motion
control link is called a panhard bar, now I
don't know if that term changes when it's
a 4x4, but the result should be about the
same, however, a car sits much lower, so
a bar between the axle and frame has a
direct attachment, witht he lift of a 4x4 I
think you would need some other mount
point on the axle to prevent a swing arm
affect (sideways) and bump steer nastyness

Wild
Title: Re: has anyone made a track bar for a sammy
Post by: freebird01 on November 05, 2005, 10:55:22 AM
well..the big key with a panhard bar in a 4x4 is that its the same length and as parallel as possible to the drag link.

Title: Re: has anyone made a track bar for a sammy
Post by: dieselzuki999 on November 05, 2005, 09:58:02 PM
yea ive been eyeing some beefy ford super dutys and how jeep aftrmkt ones are made and your right it needs to be long and level (basic geometry) theres just not much room under there
but im gonna ride like it is for now works good enuff ;D
Title: Re: has anyone made a track bar for a sammy
Post by: Hill Billy on November 06, 2005, 05:26:41 PM
Lifted several Sammys with the shackle lifts, get poly bushings for the springs, takes the sway and wandering out.
Title: Re: has anyone made a track bar for a sammy
Post by: dieselzuki999 on November 22, 2005, 07:06:59 PM
if any one would like a set of templates to make these ill e-mail them to you .this set up is working awesome have been pounding on this thing for a couple of weekends and it works well with just a little longer shocks .