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ZUKIWORLD Discussion Forum => Suzuki 4x4 Forum => Topic started by: bashzuk on March 12, 2005, 11:45:38 AM
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I was looking through all the gear guide web sites to see who sells kits for power steering for the Samurai.
Then I had a great idea!
I thought I would ask the real world their opinions, just to see what is out there and what other people have done.
I'm looking for a cost effective method for power steering.
So if you have power steering what did it come off of?
What parts did you have to buy / make for it to work?
Where did you get the parts from?
And most importantly how much did it cost?
Thank you for you time,
Bash ;D
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I'M HAPPY WITH MINE. I BOUGHT THE SIDEKICK ADAPTER FROM CALMINI. THE PUMP AND STEERING BOX FROM HAWK. IT'S ALWAYS WORKED GOOD FOR ME
ROSS
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did kick p/s on my sammy havent had any problems but would have been cheeper to go yota p/s. yota is probably stronger. both will require mods(drilling, welding) to the frame for install dont beleave in mixing suzy and yota. I have both but I keep the yota parts on the yota and the zuk parts on the zuk, but that is just my pet peave.
jason
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CALMINI HAS A ADAPTER THAT REQUIRES NO DRILLING AT ALL . BOLTS RIGHT ON.
ROSS
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i have a toyota ps box on my sas tracker but it would the same setup on a samy , i had to drill and tap some 3/4plate for the box and weld it to the outside of the frame,cut some of the inner fender out for the steering shaft and the ps lines , i used a tracker pump ,skys crossover steering , it workes great and the extra length uf the drag link helps with the angles of the link and bumpsteer. i looked at a lot of boxes and the toy ifs 4x4 box worked great.
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I used a 1994 kick box and pump with the stock 1.6 bracket. It would be cheaper for you to find a wrecked tracker for all the parts you need and could use, like the 1.6 engine,brakes,gears and housing,power steering,radiator,trans and tranfer case for a kicker three, ect. most of the steering kits go for about four hundred bucks.
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Powersteering out of a Tracker.  Kit from Trail tough.  Requires some drilling, but goes together good.  I am happy with it.
BTW in a Sammy.
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I ran kick/track ps for about 6 months. I got rid of it. I run 35's on beadlocks at 2psi and a locker in the front. The kick stuff couldn't handle it. I know that this setup is not your standard Sammi setup but I thought I would share in case you have aspirations to run 35's. I'm currently in the middle of a Hydro assist install. YOu can read about it here:
http://bbs.zuwharrie.com/content/topic,15885.0.html
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Id have to agree with NC. If you are gonna run big tires do something other than the kick setup. I run it on my little sami (31's)and am very happy. I wouldnt run it on anything above 33's myself.
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I was looking at the Rocky Road Toyata Steering setup and was wondering how could a car power steering pump be stonger than the track/kick pump?
Any thoughts on this.
Here is the web site
http://www.rocky-road.com/powersteer.html
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Is a Kick any bigger than a car? I mean seriously, they are about the same size and run the same size tires in the stock configuration. :-/
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I ran last year a Toy IFS setup from a 4-cylinder. Worked good but stalled a bit in big rocks. This year I'm going to a saginaw TC pump and a Toy FJ-60 box. If that stalls, here comes hydro assist. As for the bracket on the engine, I just modified the stock toy pump mount to fit my 1.3l. The frame mount was easy, just sleeve the frame for the mount bolts and weld a 1/4"plate to the outside.
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Kit from CALMINI, stock parts from Hawk. The whole kit installed in about an hour and a half and I wouldn't go back if you paid me. The kit is so very simple to put together.
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Land Cruiser FJ60 steering box ($80) and Saginaw TC pump from an '04 TJ($65). Also used spidertrax pulley and mount, both very nice and mounted without issues. The hi-pressure hose is custom made from both of the old ends at my local tubes-n-hoses (IIRC about $35) store.
The FJ60 box requires plating both sides of the frame and sleeves for the holes. Got a short drop pitman arm from Sky and using his x-over steering for toy axles.
Did the saginaw pump mod for flow and used a tranny cooler. Seems to work very well, but if you are working the pump hard, it will kill my stock 1.3 at idle ::)
Note to self: get more torque ;D
-Paul
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Id have to agree with NC. If you are gonna run big tires do something other than the kick setup. I run it on my little sami (31's)and am very happy. I wouldnt run it on anything above 33's myself.
Ya know, I run the Sidekick set up on my ol red Samurai with the Dana 44s and the 35 TSL/SX's. It works really well. The reason I have had good luck, I believe, is there are different Sidekick pumps. Some are smaller /weaker.
-Eric
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Ya know, I run the Sidekick set up on my ol red Samurai with the Dana 44s and the 35 TSL/SX's. It works really well. The reason I have had good luck, I believe, is there are different Sidekick pumps. Some are smaller /weaker.
-Eric
Eric,
Our P/S setup with the 35's feels quite a bit weakened compared to stock.
Do you have any other information about differing Sidekick pumps?
Are our Sidekick pumps adjustable to allow for more flow to the steering box? (I haven't looked at it much yet.)
~Nate
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I was gonna put a kick set up on my Sammi when I put the 16V in, but then I got lazy. I had all the stuff there to do it, I just wanted to get the damn motor in so I could drive my Zuk again.
-I think I might still have all the stuff if you're interested in purchasing.
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Sidekick Power steering with calmini kit, handles my 31's with front locker just fine.
Picked up everything used from someone upgrading to toyota.
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I first had the p/s Toy setup when it first came out. Was ok but not really stronger than the kick setup I have now. The toy setup sucked in my opinion. The pump constanly puked out the front seal and the reservoir, even with a p/s cooler. I went through 2 reman pumps with the same results. The parts you use for the toy set up are really old and unreliable.
I went to kick set up finally and have not had problems with it puking. I run 33's locked and loaded and it is better than no p/s. I may upgrade to a Spidertrax pump and bracket for more power, and keep the steering gear box.