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ZUKIWORLD Discussion Forum => Suzuki 4x4 Forum => Topic started by: barcus on November 17, 2005, 08:05:18 PM

Title: sidekick front end sag after the hagen
Post by: barcus on November 17, 2005, 08:05:18 PM

my present condition after i did the hagen.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74/barcus/axles/DSC00225.jpg)

cv angle looks good though...
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74/barcus/axles/DSC00226.jpg)

front end already with 1-1/4" spacer from rocky road. present condition have around 2.5" more downstroke.

am thinking of adding another .5" of spacer lift the front end. is this advisable? how much is the ideal downstroke? i dont want to bottom out my front end.

thanks.

Title: Re: sidekick front end sag after the hagen
Post by: Mikerpm4x4 on November 18, 2005, 12:25:17 AM

The rear looks high. Do you also have a spacer in the rear? I usually run with about 1 1/2 to 2 inches of down travel at the strut shaft. I would add spacing to the front coils till I achive that...Im not saying thats right, just the way I prefer.

Mike

Title: Re: sidekick front end sag after the hagen
Post by: Digger on November 18, 2005, 11:06:34 AM

Quote from: barcus on November 17, 2005, 08:05:18 PM

front end already with 1-1/4" spacer from rocky road. present condition have around 2.5" more downstroke.

If you have the track/kick spacers from RRO, I hate to break this to you, but they are only barely 1" tall. Mine measured 7/8" thick and when I emailed RRO about it, I was told that the spacers provide 1-1/8" of lift, not that the spacers are 1-1/8" thick ::) ...

Title: Re: sidekick front end sag after the hagen
Post by: crikeymike on November 18, 2005, 03:32:10 PM

Get some better stronger springs.   Spacers make the springs compress more and make them wear out quicker.  OME makes some good ones for $65 each and you could get them a few levels of firmness, and that would adjust your height also.

Title: Re: sidekick front end sag after the hagen
Post by: SnoFalls on November 18, 2005, 03:55:08 PM

I TOTALLY agree ...

"wider is better", but you need beefier springs ...

crikey can get hook you up with some good OME stuff that will help on the length and spring rate you now need.

Title: Re: sidekick front end sag after the hagen
Post by: brlj on November 18, 2005, 05:14:21 PM

Wow, when I did mine I noticed a little sag but it also looked like it transfered some weight to the back wheels (the rear suspension seemed compressed about 1"). I am going to install 1" spacers in the front to level it out.

Bill

Title: Re: sidekick front end sag after the hagen
Post by: jason hutchison on November 21, 2005, 08:30:50 AM

I was running the 0.75" spacers front and rear. After the Hagen Widening I removed the rear spacer and went to a 1.5" spacer up front and my trucks is sitting almost perfectly level.  I got the 1.5 in spacer from Sky's Offroad Designs.  Next step is to find a coil spring with a bit higher rate so I am not compressing it so much. Maybe an OME heavy duty vitara lift spring or something.

Title: Re: sidekick front end sag after the hagen
Post by: ice_man5210 on May 15, 2006, 12:16:30 AM

you rock, Barcus!

Title: Re: sidekick front end sag after the hagen
Post by: Rhinoman on May 15, 2006, 04:48:33 AM

I would think that the OME springs will be far too short. They are only intended for a 1.5" lift and aren't designed to work with the Calmini control arms.

Title: Re: sidekick front end sag after the hagen
Post by: hobgoblin on May 16, 2006, 04:19:59 PM

Hello,

I have 1.5" Sky spacers and done the Hagen mod,Didn't see much difference??? I even have a 8000 lb winch.....Are you using Calmini arms???? I have stock arms.

Later Tom K.

Title: Re: sidekick front end sag after the hagen
Post by: Jeff@TireBalls on May 16, 2006, 05:24:54 PM

What is a Hagen mod?

Title: Re: sidekick front end sag after the hagen
Post by: the_maplebar on May 16, 2006, 05:31:50 PM

In the border on the right side of the Tech Archive
http://www.zukiworld.com/main_departments_archive.htm#technical

They are specifically referring to the Front End Widening mod.
http://www.zukiworld.com/month_120102/feature_hagan_frontendmod.htm