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ZUKIWORLD Discussion Forum => Suzuki 4x4 Forum => Topic started by: bandit86 on November 22, 2005, 07:27:08 PM
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with the tracker? I bought a 24 foot bayliner, that wants to go to the lake in the spring and no way to get there
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I know on the tracker, the rated tow limit is 1,000 pounds. I would be willing to bet that bayliner is a LOT heavier than 1,000 pounds ::)
I have seen what happens when you tow a lot of weight down the highway with a small gm automatic tranny. The aftermath looked like a grenade went off inside the transmission ;D
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ive towed around a suzuki lj80 with a full cage on 31's behind a tracker before, could barly notice it was there suprizingly enough..... bayliner would be heavyer though
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I pull this thing all over Arizona with no problems. Only 700# loaded for the weekend.
(http://www.mikenchell.com/forums/album_pic.php?pic_id=4214)
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I tow a 500 lb. plus wood trailer(empty) all the time,with wet wood I had the tires smoking on the fenders the other day i'm guessing 3000 to 3500 lbs it holds just over a cord of wood, I have also towed a full equiped hard top sammie with winch i,m guessing 2300 plus lbs and did not hardly notice it being there compaired to the wood trailer with my sammie and the 16 valve and tranfer case gears is all and i'm at 4300 feet.
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I towed an SJ410 on a 4 wheel car trailer once, it coped surprisingly well but the brakes felt a little weak. At the time it was on stock suspension and tyres and is a 5 speed. As I recall this subject was discussed a while back and the towing limits were different for different countries.
This is from my (UK) owners handbook:
MASS Kg(Lbs)
Kerb Mass (2535/2557)*
Gross Vehicle Mass (3307)
Gross Axle Mass - Front (1565)
Gross Axle Mass - Rear (1984)
Towing Capacity - Braked Trailer 1450kg
Towing Capacity - Unbraked Trailer 450kg
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I've got you all beat! On the way back from GonZookin 2005 at Paragon Off-Road Park we ran out of fuel in a 1987 Diesel Suburban with a 28 foot trailer behind it while towing "Krusty" (the rusty lifted Tracker on 34's) and the 2.0 Liter Beater (my black Samurai on 35's). We were coming down an off-ramp and I noticed that the Suburban lost power steering then realized it was out of fuel. In front of me was a hill with gas stations up at the top. Within a minute or two of coming to a stop at the bottom of the off ramp a police car came up behind us and asked if we needed a tow truck or two to get us up to the gas station. I said no and quickly thought of how to get us off the ramp and up there without spending $100 or more in towing fees. I pulled the Samurai off of the trailer then hooked up a strap to the front of the Suburban then put her in 4-LOW and started pulling. With minimal clutch burning she slowly started moving and we watched the cops eyes bug-out as I pulled the Suburban with loaded 28ft trailer up the hill behind my Zuk to the fuel station. We got the Suburban pulled up to the diesel pump then reloaded the Samurai on to the trailer and after bleeding the fuel filter and injector lines finally got her running again.
100% true story!........just wish I had a pic of that!
Sean (Another day another adventure!) DeVinney
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I illegally towed a 98 Plymouth Neon 10 miles to the car dealership where my friend was gonna sell it. I was amazed my tow point held up through that. My friend was pretty impressed my Tracker could even move his heavy a$$ Neon.
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I towed a wounded XJ out of a trail the other day, through a huge mud puddle and everything. I also yanked another XJ out of really deep sand, and came close to getting a 2wd chevy fullsize out of a wet sand hole on the beach IN THE SURF.
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On the highway at speed, the only thing I've ever towed is the Zukamper. About 800 lbs empty, about 1100 loaded for a trip,
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y24/jzap/P6300029.jpg)
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y24/jzap/P7110173.jpg)
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(http://pic5.picturetrail.com/VOL72/842221/5455528/88528452.jpg)
The infamous "Tracker-Trailer" LOL!
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I have a 15' jet boat that is around 2000 lbs that I tow all summer. Seems to handle it fine except for long hills. The diesel will solve that though! :P
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Wow, the sami story pulling the suburban, is amazing.
THe most i've towed on the road was my landscaping equipment trailer with 2yards of top soil.
Thats 2 metric tonne.
I've got helper springs, between mu rear axel and frame.
Another time, my buddys dad called me up one spring day, and he need needed his trailer moved. He explained the trailer was stuck, and his van couldnt get any traction. Me assuming it was a small utility trail. I made my way to his house, when i pulled up he was sitting there trying to put some wood under the tire of this 30 foot camping trailer. The trailer had sat all winter long in the back yard on the grass, and it had drop about 5 inches on one side. The side that had sank one of th two tires had a flat. We hooked her up, and sure enough the tracker pulled the hug trailer from the rut on the dry land. It wasnt a far tow, about 30 feet but it sure pulled that bad boy out. He was so amazed that, 3 months later, he went and got a 2001, tracker two door for him self.
Amazing what these little things can do.
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WARNING
do not try this at home, i'm a trained idiot
In my samurai , I have towed a car trailer with a 1982 toyota 4x4 truck on it for approx 6 miles down I-5 freeway.
it was scarry, that is about the only way to describe it :o
jason
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i have only towed, a utility trailer wiht a quad in it, probly about 700 punds at the most, notic a difference up hills but straight stretches it is fine.
i have also towed a empty dual axel car hauler back to u haul and it was fine too
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My mate towed, a V8 110 land rover! in a sammy!
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I towed a zuki on a car dolly with a stock zuki 30 miles
and flat towed a cj7 that ran out of gas on a strap about 15 mile to town ,the state cop that pulled us over let us go because he was a jeeper and could not belive that the sammy was towing the heep
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Dont over load it on long trips. When moving to Florida I loaded down the X-90 and a utility trailor behind it and topped the scales at just over 6500# :o It took me 6 trys to balance out the load on the utility trailor so it would track good and after 800 miles, I have a tranny whine for some strange reason :P ::)
I would NOT reccomend for any one to do this. It was a LONG slow ride at 65-70 all the way down. I have towed trailors my entire life. and it was still scary in the cross winds.
Zig
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I bet it took a half hour to stop too.
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I bet it took a half hour to stop too.
Lol, thats the main reason for me fitting LWB calipers and rear discs. Towing a heavy load the brakes feel very weak, even on stock rubber. 5:83s and 27" tyres pull really well though ;D ;D
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I bet it took a half hour to stop too.
Actually it stoped OK. I made sure I had a day that I could make the trip without running into any rain along the way though. I've got the CAT scale ticket somewhere. I'll try to find it to see how much was in the car and how much was being hauled behind.
Zig
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my brother biker and I were up mt arrowsmith one day and we came a cross a cement barrier block that some one had pulled out into the road. they even left the chain attached. so duane said what the hell lets try it. so 4 lo and hubs locked in, and the fun began. i have never saw a cars suspension compress as much as duanes track did. but low and behold the block started to move. these things weigh in at about 2500 lbs so we were fairly amazed. pulled it about 150 ft till we got it completely off of the road. and were able to get the chain unhooked and took it with us.
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i will be putting my motorbike on the back but with no trailer just a holding unit and I am installing a class 3 hitch but admittedly the only thing i hope too pull that is heavy is a heep out of trouble hehehehe
oh and a utility trailer with wodd for the cottage...
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i will be putting my motorbike on the back but with no trailer just a holding unit and I am installing a class 3 hitch but admittedly the only thing i hope too pull that is heavy is a heep out of trouble hehehehe
oh and a utility trailer with wodd for the cottage...
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sorry for the double post....dad use too pull a 18 foot bow rider with a class 1 hitch and he just took it easy on hills
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I have pulled a few XJ's out with my sammi, and several trees out of the way. Never towed anything before though. Oh actually I did tow a broken XJ through a mud hole.
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notice the theme of pulling heeps ;D
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The guys in my heep club said that they would rather burn thier rig then be pulled out by a sammie. ;D
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i will be putting my motorbike on the back but with no trailer just a holding unit and I am installing a class 3 hitch but admittedly the only thing i hope too pull that is heavy is a heep out of trouble hehehehe
oh and a utility trailer with wodd for the cottage...
If I understand you correctly then you are talking about a rack that goes across the back attached to the tow bar only. You will have a lot more problems with this setup as the 'nose weight' will be very heavy. I had that set up on a camper van and had to add a fair bit of additional bracing to the towbar as well because I got a lot of flex. The van had a fair bit of overhang though so the 'arms' on the towbar were about 2ft long.
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I had to get pulled off a log the other day by a Heep... it was my own fault for getting stuck, trying to go over a massvie log and not really paying attention good enough, front left bit through the bark and starting spinning along the side while the front right went right over it, and my back tires drove me straight up the log on my axle. No hi lift with me, and no winch, so I had to call my jeep friend with a stock 1990 wrangler 4 banger. He struggled pretty good, but finally managed to get me off the log. I backed up and went right over it, and he didn't even attempt it. So even though I got pulled out by him, he couldn't go any of the places I went.
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it wasnt with a tracker, it was in my samurai but the biggest thing i ever towed was a full size 2wd lifted chevy extended cab pu that was pulling a 40 foot trailer. he was down to the rear axle at pismo so his trailer was acting like a plow, i linked up, buried mine to the axles and just turned l r l r l r l r while getting about 1 inch per 7 seconds, after about 5 minutes of ruh ruh ruh ruh ruh pullin, i had him free. to this day i have never EVER seen anyone so blown away by a samurai, he actually got out of his truck in awe and walked around my rig like three complete times while scratching his head the whole while giving verbal praise to the samurai god that my truck had just become to him. ;D
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;D
I like that story
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with the tracker? I bought a 24 foot bayliner, that wants to go to the lake in the spring and no way to get there
My Wife!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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The biggest thing I pulled on was a early style bronco stuck in a mud hole! Got it out! Also a couple Jeeps.