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Title: Which motor does this sidekick have
Post by: bhaugen on August 18, 2005, 06:12:05 AM
Came across a Wrecked Sidekick I am thinking of bidding on for the motor to put in my Sammy.  It is a 1995 JX 4 wd 4 dr Sidekick.  95511 miles on it. 

What value is it worth.  front side damage.  Door looks like it doesn't close and the front wheel is bent out. 
Title: Re: Which motor does this sidekick have
Post by: steveofrost on August 18, 2005, 06:40:34 AM
Do you have a VIN? They still were making the 8v in '95
Title: Re: Which motor does this sidekick have
Post by: zaggy on August 18, 2005, 06:53:16 AM
Unless you ran into something real weird

     1995 4dr Sidekicks came with the 95hp 1.6/16v, basically the same bottom end as the 8v with a Single Overhead Cam 16 valve head and pistons to match....good engine, good power.
     To install where an 8v was you will need complete engine bay wiring harness and computer as well as all the little goodies you can get. Make sure you get all the fuel injection parts and wiring.
     I belive to put it in the Sammy you will need an adapter plate (build or buy), but it gives you close to a 50% increase in power.

Zag
Title: Re: Which motor does this sidekick have
Post by: nc_zuk on August 18, 2005, 08:40:28 AM
Definately a 16 valve motor.

It has 1.6 Liter, 16-valve, 4-cylinder, SOHC engine with Multi-Port Fuel Injection. 95 HP |removethispart|@ 5600 rpm and 98 lb.-ft. |removethispart|@ 4000 rpm.

When rounding up parts for your conversion keep in mind that '96 and up motors are OBDII and will not be smog legal for California. On '96 and up donor vehicles you will need to get the second 02 sensor portion of the wiring harness in addition to the parts listed below.

You will need the engine complete with all of the hoses, pulleys intact. You will need the fan, starter, alternator, coil, air cleaner, exhaust manifold, head pipe, engine room wiring harness, under dash wiring harness, ECM, and speedometer.

In addition to this donor parts list you will also need a high pressure fuel pump, an engine adaptor kit, and slightly taller mounts or shims for the front 4 body mounts in order to provide for hood clearance. The donor vehicles wiring harness will need to be modified for use in the Samurai as well as the Samurai speedometer which will need the speed sensor from the donor vehicle adapted to it.

In my opinion Trail Tough is your best bet when doing a 16v engine swap. They also have a special going on and the conversion kit is currently 40% off the original price ;)
Title: Re: Which motor does this sidekick have
Post by: bhaugen on August 18, 2005, 09:45:58 AM
Thanks Guys.  I have been looking at the local Salvage auctions for a while and this one finally came up.  We will see if I get it.  I may end up storing it for a year or so till I get to doing the swap, or fixing it good enough to drive around.

I plan on Using Trail Tough for the adapter stuff.  He definately has the most complete and you can't beat the service. 

BTW VIN is 2S3TD03V6S64
Title: Re: Which motor does this sidekick have
Post by: wildgoody on August 18, 2005, 04:09:26 PM
Looks like a strange VIN
doesn't seem to have the right beginning

Wild
Title: Re: Which motor does this sidekick have
Post by: LilRed on August 18, 2005, 04:33:23 PM
Looks like a strange VIN
doesn't seem to have the right beginning

Wild

     The beginning is correct, but doesn't look like it has enough digits.  I can tell you that since it has that first S, it is not Canadian built.
Title: Re: Which motor does this sidekick have
Post by: wildgoody on August 18, 2005, 04:39:14 PM
Built in Spain ???

I didn't look to see where bhaugen is from

Wild
Title: Re: Which motor does this sidekick have
Post by: 88Sammy on August 18, 2005, 05:14:36 PM
     The beginning is correct, but doesn't look like it has enough digits.  I can tell you that since it has that first S, it is not Canadian built.
LilRed is half right.  The 1st part of the Vin is correct.  The latter part is missing.
This is Canadian built.  It was built at the Cami plant.
2S3TD03V6S64
2=Cami
S=Suzuki
3=Sport Uitility
T=Sidekick/Sport
D=4wd,4dr
0=1.6L
3=Design Sequence
V=body type, SUV 4dr
6=Check digit
S=model year 1995
6=assembly plant, Cami
Title: Re: Which motor does this sidekick have
Post by: wildgoody on August 18, 2005, 05:24:01 PM
Ohh really, I thought there was a C in there for Canada

Wild
Title: Re: Which motor does this sidekick have
Post by: LilRed on August 18, 2005, 06:30:10 PM
Ohh really, I thought there was a C in there for Canada

Wild
   
     Me too.  Guess they used different VIN codes for the Tracker and Sidekick even if they were both built by Cami.  Does your Kick have the S, Wild?
Title: Re: Which motor does this sidekick have
Post by: wildgoody on August 18, 2005, 08:29:17 PM
No mine is a J
JS4  if I remember right
89' built in Japan, with an auto
trans made in France by GM  :o

I guess the engine and axles
were from Japan tho
Title: Re: Which motor does this sidekick have
Post by: bhaugen on August 19, 2005, 07:12:47 AM
I don't think they listed the whole VIN.  I went and looked at it last night and put in a bid.  Not too high.  Bids close on the 23rd at 4:00 pm. 

(http://www.dakotasalvage.com/images/photos/05-1587-467-02-full.jpg)

I have been watching the salvage auctions for one for a while now and this is the first one to come up locally. 

BTW I am near Fargo ND. 

Title: Re: Which motor does this sidekick have
Post by: Bobzooki on August 19, 2005, 02:00:18 PM
Yeah, that could still be an 8-valve - I believe the "JS" trim line in 1995 4-door still had the 8-valve.

JX and JLX would be a 16 valve.

I can't say this is absolutely true, because both my 95 4-doors were/are JLX trim line, and my 2-door 95 (the Gnewt) is a JX trim line.

Title: Re: Which motor does this sidekick have
Post by: SnoFalls on August 19, 2005, 03:08:14 PM
AFAIK ... all 4dr sidekicks (not trackers) got the DOHC 16V in '92
(from consumerguide.com ... "1992 Suzuki Sidekick: Four-door Sidekicks earned a power boost, adopting a 95-horsepower engine with dual-overhead camshafts. ")
Title: Re: Which motor does this sidekick have
Post by: wildgoody on August 19, 2005, 10:47:25 PM
Consumers guide huh, well they are wrong.

The 16 Valve is a SOHC
Title: Re: Which motor does this sidekick have
Post by: SnoFalls on August 20, 2005, 02:53:05 AM
thx ... I've not opened up the 16V I picked up last week yet.
Title: Re: Which motor does this sidekick have
Post by: zaggy on August 20, 2005, 08:51:27 AM
Wild is definitely correct.......

     The kick/track never got the G series DOHC's in North America, Just saw a 1300 Dohc swapped into a Sammy and a Custom built 1600 DOHC in a Swift. You'd like the Swift "Wild", he's going turbo intercooled NO injected.

Zag
Title: Re: Which motor does this sidekick have
Post by: wildgoody on August 21, 2005, 12:02:56 AM
That's OK, as soon as I get this 16V
SOHC head ported (cleaned up and
smoothed out) I will enjoy the same
power the DOHC head gives.

I do belive the DOHC head will fit the
1.6 G series block, but I think I read
that there was a loss of something, but
I can't remember if it was torque or
high RPM breathing or ???

Wild
Title: Re: Which motor does this sidekick have
Post by: zaggy on August 21, 2005, 01:43:28 PM
From what I have read

- The 1.6/16v sohc head ported and polished will flow as good or better than a stock 1.3/16v
  dohc in stock form

- The 1.3/16v dohc will out breath the sohc at the high end by a pile once it is completely
  prepped

For what you're doing the sohc 16v would make the most senses to me....but the thought of a 200hp high rpm 16v dohc turbo does get the blood flowing

Zag
Title: Re: Which motor does this sidekick have
Post by: wildgoody on August 21, 2005, 08:05:01 PM
Got some before pics, and got some
porting done today, worked the combustion
chambers so they don't have any sharp
angles/edges, and tried to match the seats
to the port, but the seats are going to need
more work to get them smoothed in, but looking
much better, I still need to work the ports and
chambers with a 60# wheel and get it smoothed
out, right now it's just been finished with a grinding
point.

Title: Re: Which motor does this sidekick have
Post by: zaggy on August 21, 2005, 08:49:58 PM
sounds Exxcceelleennt Wild

     you are gonna have some awesome airflow!

zag
Title: Re: Which motor does this sidekick have
Post by: wildgoody on August 21, 2005, 09:14:59 PM
Ohh and I un-shrouded the valves
where the edges of the chambers sort
of  hung over the edge where the valves
opened, I hope this gives some improvment
over the stock heads.

Too bad I don't think I'll ever get to test a 16V
head and a worked over head for a comparison.
Title: Re: Which motor does this sidekick have
Post by: zaggy on August 22, 2005, 07:10:20 AM
That port work

     In combo with your turbo set up should produce some awesome results. Seat of the pants guess but if you were getting 150 with the unported 8v I would think you should be 185ish with the 16v and the blower....can't wait for the pics

Zag
Title: Re: Which motor does this sidekick have
Post by: cj on August 22, 2005, 03:43:01 PM
The DOHC head from the G13 will bolt on the 1.6. As to flow, well the stock G16 SOHC 16v head actually flows more but with some serious work done on it then the DOHC head can be made to flow some more.