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ZUKIWORLD Discussion Forum => Suzuki 4x4 Forum => Topic started by: Skunk on March 11, 2005, 02:32:10 PM

Title: Clutch problem, wont disengage
Post by: Skunk on March 11, 2005, 02:32:10 PM
so I took the tracker to get inspected, got to the place, then went to move it into the garage, backed it up, then it wouldnt go into gear, it acted as if the clutch cable was broken but it wasnt, when the clutch is out, it makes a wizzing sound, when the clutch pedal is in, the noice gets louder, but still the clutch wont disengage, I put the tranny in 1st and turn it over, the truck moves with the clutch pedal in and out the same. Pilot bearing maybe? dont know these trucks to well yet. Thanx for any input.
Title: Re: Clutch problem, wont disengage
Post by: ROSS on March 11, 2005, 02:36:01 PM
SOUDS LIKE THROWOUT BEARING

                            ROSS
Title: Re: Clutch problem, wont disengage
Post by: Skunk on March 11, 2005, 05:10:05 PM
well i figure Ill just put a whole new clutch kit in, it kills me but Im gonna have to find a shop or a friend to help as I receintly had open heart surgery and the doc said I cant balance a tranny/t-case on my chest anymore....  ???
Title: Re: Clutch problem, wont disengage
Post by: Zukipilot on March 12, 2005, 01:07:24 AM
Just check the Cable ;) Have someone step on the clutch with you watching the cable (inside the engine compartment) They get over heated and the casing breaks down with time allowing it to Kink instead of slide within the housing (this problem gets ALLOT worse if you have an aftermarket header.

If the vehicle is 'cold and you see it barely moving in one place, let it idle and heat up the cable and you'll probably see it jump around after heating up.

You can also watch the clutch arm on the side of the trans. If the cable is not kinking and the arm is not moving much whrn the pedal is pushed, your cable has some broeken strands and is streaching in the casing.

HTH,
Zig
Title: Re: Clutch problem, wont disengage
Post by: Zukipilot on March 12, 2005, 01:11:20 AM
Oh yea, I just thought of something else. I put a new clutch cable in one time and did not  tighten the adjuster lock nut down. After about 50 miles of use I heard a slight POP and then no clutch. All that had happned was the adjuster had slid off the bracket because my DA did not tighten the lock nut down after adjusting it :P

Zig
Title: Re: Clutch problem, wont disengage
Post by: Rhinoman on March 12, 2005, 10:34:54 AM
Been in the mud? This has happened to me a couple of times. Once the clutch wouldn't disengage, the next time it stuck disengaged. Watery mud/dirt had got under the throwout bearing and when it dried it seized solid. Now the shaft is a bit more worn it doesn't happen any more. Just in case i drilled and tapped a hole under the bearing so I could squirt some WD40 on it if it happened again.
Title: Re: Clutch problem, wont disengage
Post by: Skunk on March 12, 2005, 12:03:20 PM
no mud.... I got under the truck, had someone push the clutch in... it didnt go too far, I was able to push the lever the rest of the way by hand (not easy), I then tried to adjust the cable by tightening the nut on the end ... then it just broke off, so Ill have a new cable in tomorrow and see how it works out then....
Title: Re: Clutch problem, wont disengage
Post by: Mel Taylor on March 12, 2005, 12:19:03 PM
Does this stretched cable syndrome apply to the Samurai as well?

I just bought a stock 88 Samurai for $700.00. The guy I got it from claims he replaced the clutch about a year ago and for the first few weeks it worked fine, then the cable stretched and he couldn't disengage the clutch.

He has been driving it to work and back (a distance of 4 or 5 miles each way)  most of the time since then by starting it in first and shifting by sound and feel. I rode in it and he went through all five gears with nary a grind or crunch (wish I could do that) and the clutch was obviously engaged and not slipping.

The Haynes manual makes replacing the cable look like a piece of cake.  Is there anything I need to watch out for that the book doesn't reveal? And lastly, Is any one brand or vendor to be prefered or avoided over another?

TIA.

Mel

Title: Re: Clutch problem, wont disengage
Post by: Skunk on March 13, 2005, 06:58:58 AM
Update:

I was the clutch cable, easy to replace, just had to make a few adjustments on the pedal end, not a big deal. so its all fixed now.

Thanx for the help
Title: Re: Clutch problem, wont disengage
Post by: azrocktrash on March 13, 2005, 10:57:44 AM
Quote
Does this stretched cable syndrome apply to the Samurai as well?

I just bought a stock 88 Samurai for $700.00. The guy I got it from claims he replaced the clutch about a year ago and for the first few weeks it worked fine, then the cable stretched and he couldn't disengage the clutch.

He has been driving it to work and back (a distance of 4 or 5 miles each way)  most of the time since then by starting it in first and shifting by sound and feel. I rode in it and he went through all five gears with nary a grind or crunch (wish I could do that) and the clutch was obviously engaged and not slipping.

The Haynes manual makes replacing the cable look like a piece of cake.  Is there anything I need to watch out for that the book doesn't reveal? And lastly, Is any one brand or vendor to be prefered or avoided over another?

TIA.

Mel




 yes it does apply to the sami also.found that most aftermaket ones wear out faster than a stock replacement. they are easy to replace.
     oscar