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Offline kirknd4spd

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8 valve to 16 valve swap
« on: July 22, 2006, 10:39:05 PM »
a friend and i are swapping a 16 valve engine into his 90 sidekick.  will the 16 valve just bolt in in place of the 8 valve that came in it, or will we need to change over a lot of other things?  my 89 had a 16 valve swap when i got it, but i cant find the previous owner to ask about this.
by the way, we dont have a donor vehicle, he ordered the engine online, so we cant just go get parts.
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Re: 8 valve to 16 valve swap
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2006, 01:58:49 AM »
isn't the 16 valve a multipoin injection and the 8 valve throtle body injection?
in that case you need to build the whole injection and fuel management system over.

the block itself should be a perfect match

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Re: 8 valve to 16 valve swap
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2006, 08:40:06 AM »
To do the swap, you'll need a engine/vehicle harness from a 95 2-dr with 16v, as well as the ECM. The 5-speed tranni should be the same right through all years, but you might have an issue if it's automatic. You would have been better off with a donor vehicle so you can take what you need. Id find a donor in a salvage yard to get parts when needed.

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Offline kirknd4spd

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Re: 8 valve to 16 valve swap
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2006, 01:24:51 PM »
why would we need new harnesses? could we just swap the fuel injection from the 8 valve? he got a new auto tranny with the engine too.
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Re: 8 valve to 16 valve swap
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2006, 05:03:24 AM »
why would we need new harnesses? could we just swap the fuel injection from the 8 valve? he got a new auto tranny with the engine too.

I would think that the fuelling would be all wrong. It is possible to swap the 8V stuff on but you would have to make a plate to go between the inlet manifold and the head to blank off the injector recesses.
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Re: 8 valve to 16 valve swap
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2006, 04:37:25 PM »
The 8V is TBI, 16V is MPFI....the fuel system is different....

thus you would need the harness to fire the additional injectors and a cpu to do it...

unless you go mega squirt or something like that

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Re: 8 valve to 16 valve swap
« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2006, 04:45:22 PM »
your eight valve harness is different then the 16,, it'll be like trying to plug a square plug into a round hole.. just aint gonna happen... good luck a happy tinkerin( ;)
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Re: 8 valve to 16 valve swap
« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2006, 08:07:24 PM »
The computer is different, so the harness is different, you will DEFINITELY need a donor vehicle, or at the least, a cooperative junk yard with a 16v to get EVERYTHING from. Computer and wiring harness.. It's a bitch, and usually easier to just find a wrecked 16v. I wanted to do this myself. but the gains weren't worth the price. It ended up being cheaper to sell my 8v Track and buy a 16v Track.  I didn't do it. I just kept the 8v..  too much  hassle.

Still looking for a decent 16v but the prices are rising fast!!  These kicks are good investments when you can find them under a grand, JUMP ON EM!!

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Offline kirknd4spd

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Re: 8 valve to 16 valve swap
« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2006, 10:36:02 PM »
alright, thanks. were trying to find a donor vehicle, but the last one we found didnt have the harness, so we will keep looking.
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