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'92 TRACKER HEAD WARP SPECS

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Offline eschneider

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'92 TRACKER HEAD WARP SPECS
« on: July 13, 2008, 10:14:14 PM »
Have a '92 TBI 8V tracker.  Got hot, water in the oil, pulled the head.

With 2 different straight edges, measured 0.010 warp in the center (cylinders 2-3), 0.008 between 1-2 and 3-4.

What's the spec?  Anyone know how much warpage these motors can take?

I ask because the car has 200k miles, and I'm not planning on checking the main bearings other than an oil pressure test....  Just doing a $40 gasket.




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Re: '92 TRACKER HEAD WARP SPECS
« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2008, 07:44:32 PM »
I would have it surfaced, just take 8 thou off, and if you do a valve job, you
will need a new set of rings in 20-30K miles

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Offline eschneider

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Re: '92 TRACKER HEAD WARP SPECS
« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2008, 08:19:49 PM »
I would have it surfaced, just take 8 thou off, and if you do a valve job, you
will need a new set of rings in 20-30K miles

Thanks.  I think I will follow your advice.

Any reason to just take 8 off, and not 10 thou??

It sounds like you're saying there is a cause-and-effect with a valve job and rings?  What's that all about?

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Re: '92 TRACKER HEAD WARP SPECS
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2008, 05:56:04 PM »
Increased compression in an engine with that many miles will wear the rings out.
This is a common problem with all engines, they don't like to be messed with after
they are broken in.

Taking more off will increase the compression, tho not much, but 2 thou warp is in specs
and will give you more service life in that head should you ever need to resurface again

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Re: '92 TRACKER HEAD WARP SPECS
« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2008, 05:04:31 AM »
since I'm not sure about the bearings, and the motor has 200k miles on it, I decided to try using a long flat file (and some machinist's blueing paint) to very carefully dress the head surface.  If nothing else it will be one of those experiments to see what I can get away with.  With the file I got the surface flat to about 3-4 thou.

I'll let everyone know how this works.  From a practical standpoint, I'm insane for trying -- but it's a fun experiment that I couldn't resist.


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Re: '92 TRACKER HEAD WARP FIX
« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2008, 11:09:56 PM »
Posting the follow up to my experiment.

To review, the motor got hot, blew a head gasket.  I had just done the head gasket last summer, but my dad's been driving the car with a cracked radiator..... ugh.

Last time I did the job I replaced everything - timing belt, hoses, gaskets, even a new timing belt cover.

This time, I replaced ONLY the head gakset.  I pulled the head with the intake and exhaust still bolted on.  however, the head was warped about 10 thou.

I decided to try a cheapskate experiment.  I used machinists bluing dye and a 18" flat file to dress the head surface.  I got it to within .004" flat and left it there.  I bolted it on, and everything is OK so far after about 300 miles!!!!!!!  I even re-used the valve cover gasket - I just coated the gasket surface with standard grease to help it seal, and so far so good.....  Compression is back up to 145+/-10 psi.  Pretty good for an engine with 200k miles.  What a great, durable motor.....

Total spent = $35 for the head gasket, plus consumables (cleaner, oil, filter, antifreeze.....)