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Offline Ph_sj410

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need infos on sj410
« on: March 31, 2005, 11:43:30 AM »
hi, i have a few questions(ok i have a lot :-) ) regarding the sj410 and the
samurai, here are the questionssss:

1.will the windshield of a sammy fit my sj?
2. since the orig sj410 have unboosted brakes and front drums, what do i
need to convert it into front disc? the booster needs a vacuum right? where
will i attach this vacuum(w/c part of the engine)
3. orig tranny of the 410 has 4 speed only, is there a 5 speed? or the sammy
tranny will fit?
4. does the sj410 and sammy have the same suspension components like leafs,
etc.

.....i know there's a lot of sites dedicated to suzuki's but i cant seem to
find one that directly answers my queries, thanks for your time...
:o :o
...in search for a showroom stock 1st edition sj410...........

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Offline trialspro

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Re: need infos on sj410
« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2005, 12:15:15 PM »
from what ive heard is the only way to get a 5spd is to actually swap engines, and my 84 sj410 has front discsi never knew they came with front drums...., and i think you can bolt on the power brake booster, i have one in my garage that came from one and

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Offline zutefisk

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Re: need infos on sj410
« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2005, 02:11:28 PM »
If you don't get an answer here. Hawk Suzukiparts can probably answer your questions. Called them quite often when I had my SJ 410.

Don't know about earlier years but the 85 SJ 410 hardtop shared shared body parts with the 85 Samurai.  Trim , grill, and I think hood differences.  


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Offline Rhinoman

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Re: need infos on sj410
« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2005, 10:06:16 PM »
Sammy windscreen should fit I believe the main body panels are all the same. The early 410 disc brakes had no booster so you should be able swap to discs without needing a servo master cylinder (which has a different hole pattern through the firewall). Most people in the UK simply swap in a later axle as its a lot easier than swapping parts.
Sammy gearbox will not fit, there are 410 5speed gearboxs which will mate up to the engine but the early 410s have the gear lever holes in slightly different
locations and a smaller transmission tunnel, it can be made to fit though. The input shaft varies too, there is a short shaft which mates to a flywheel with a bearing in the centre and an extended shaft which mates to a bearing in the end of the crankshaft. You may need to swap the flywheel, the extended input shaft can be cut down if required. Suspension (leaves/shocks) is the same as the SJ413 (narrow track) and is interchangeable with the Sammi
« Last Edit: March 31, 2005, 10:08:25 PM by Rhinoman »
2000 Vitara 1.6, 3+3 Lift, 33"MTs, 5:83s, LWB brakes, Winch, Snorkel, Safari Rack
1986 SJ413K PickUp, 1.6L conversion.

OBD1 - Full diagnostics on a PC/Laptop: http://www.rhinopower.org

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Offline Ph_sj410

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Re: need infos on sj410
« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2005, 01:40:01 AM »
thanks for all the replies....

what if i use sammy axles for the front and back....what problems should i expect?
...in search for a showroom stock 1st edition sj410...........

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Offline Rhinoman

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Re: need infos on sj410
« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2005, 03:46:50 AM »
Sammi axles are located differently, IIRC the spring mounts are outside of the frame rails so you would either have to modify the frame or the axles. It would be best to fabricate new brackets for the frame as the axles would be better supported and less prone to bending. You will also need to swap around propshaft flanges if you have the earlier small diameter solid props.
« Last Edit: April 02, 2005, 03:48:41 AM by Rhinoman »
2000 Vitara 1.6, 3+3 Lift, 33"MTs, 5:83s, LWB brakes, Winch, Snorkel, Safari Rack
1986 SJ413K PickUp, 1.6L conversion.

OBD1 - Full diagnostics on a PC/Laptop: http://www.rhinopower.org

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Offline Submercer

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Re: need infos on sj410
« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2005, 10:24:57 PM »
I just fitted a 410 soft top winscreen onto my Sammy hardtop after cutting the roof and screen off.  Fitted fine and lined up pretty good.  The internal wiper drive arms are a different length.
'92 FI 1600 Softtop Sammy ARB front and rear.
'92 Escudo
97' 2.0l SWB Vitara

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Offline Ph_sj410

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Re: need infos on sj410
« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2005, 11:15:53 PM »
....can you post interior pictures (dash, tranny hump area) of a stock or nearly stock sj410.....thanks ;D
...in search for a showroom stock 1st edition sj410...........

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Offline Rhinoman

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Re: need infos on sj410
« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2005, 11:48:51 PM »
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....can you post interior pictures (dash, tranny hump area) of a stock or nearly stock sj410.....thanks ;D



Hmm, stock you say. Thats a bit tricky! Someone else might be able to help you with that one. Though I can have a look in the FSM to see if there are any usefull pics. Anything in particular you need?

« Last Edit: April 05, 2005, 11:52:16 PM by Rhinoman »
2000 Vitara 1.6, 3+3 Lift, 33"MTs, 5:83s, LWB brakes, Winch, Snorkel, Safari Rack
1986 SJ413K PickUp, 1.6L conversion.

OBD1 - Full diagnostics on a PC/Laptop: http://www.rhinopower.org

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Offline Ph_sj410

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Re: need infos on sj410
« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2005, 05:03:27 AM »
rhinoman.....i'm looking specifically for the first edition 410's, the one with metal dashboard,  i'm trying to restore the interior of my 410....pics of the center tunnel too would help(the one from the gear shifter upto the hand brake lever)......thanks

btw it's the model w/ unboosted front drums :-/
...in search for a showroom stock 1st edition sj410...........

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Offline Drone637

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Re: need infos on sj410
« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2005, 09:43:03 PM »
Do you still need some pictures of SJ410 dashes?  I may have some buried in my collection of 410 paperwork from ebay.  :)
96 Geo Tracker, x-SJ-410,  x-White Rabbit, x-Project Trouble
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Offline Ph_sj410

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Re: need infos on sj410
« Reply #11 on: April 10, 2005, 01:13:38 PM »
 ;D yes please do  ;) or you can e-mail it.....thanks so much
...in search for a showroom stock 1st edition sj410...........

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Offline Drone637

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Re: need infos on sj410
« Reply #12 on: April 10, 2005, 01:27:20 PM »
Great, now I need to go through the pile of advertisements.  ;D

What year are you looking for?
96 Geo Tracker, x-SJ-410,  x-White Rabbit, x-Project Trouble
Crawlers NorthWest
x-Trouble Racing

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Offline Ph_sj410

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Re: need infos on sj410
« Reply #13 on: April 10, 2005, 06:51:00 PM »
82 model, the one with metal dashboards....thanks drone.... ;D
...in search for a showroom stock 1st edition sj410...........

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Offline Rhinoman

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Re: need infos on sj410
« Reply #14 on: April 11, 2005, 09:55:00 AM »
I had a look but there aren't any really clear pictures of the dash in the FSM.
2000 Vitara 1.6, 3+3 Lift, 33"MTs, 5:83s, LWB brakes, Winch, Snorkel, Safari Rack
1986 SJ413K PickUp, 1.6L conversion.

OBD1 - Full diagnostics on a PC/Laptop: http://www.rhinopower.org