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Offline zaggy

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Re: Super vs Turbo charging (dive in "Wild")
« Reply #45 on: August 02, 2005, 12:19:51 PM »
For those with the Supercharger itch

     Check out Camden Superchargers...re-releasing a kit for the Samurai $2495.00 USD
www.camdensuperchargers.com.....

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Re: Super vs Turbo charging (dive in "Wild")
« Reply #46 on: August 02, 2005, 01:46:54 PM »
It looks great and for an off the shelf kit I would say its not that expensive (not in UK terms anyway), especially when you consider how many hours of fabrication a diy kit would require. But.......  and its a big, but........ thats right where my brake servo and and possibly my steering column are  :'( :'(
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Re: Super vs Turbo charging (dive in "Wild")
« Reply #47 on: August 02, 2005, 09:28:56 PM »
Well Rhino, you are just going to have
to settle for a Turbo, sorry dude  ;)

And ya, he's adude, not abroad

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Re: Super vs Turbo charging (dive in "Wild")
« Reply #48 on: August 03, 2005, 06:44:34 AM »
He could just convert....the steering and brakes that is!

Then he could have his supercharger and drive on the correct side of the road! LOL

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Re: Super vs Turbo charging (dive in "Wild")
« Reply #49 on: August 03, 2005, 08:22:42 AM »
Ok so if one were looking for a supercharger, with a little DIY "not gona spend 2500.00 on a car  that ended up free"  i have been looking at the belt driven chargers from a yota or a subie  how much boost could i get away with keeping the stock ECM and Injector" it is a 1.6 8V TBI.  i will have to make an intake  cap for the TB but that is not that hard. i would like 5 - 10 lb boost

what  do you guys think?
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Re: Super vs Turbo charging (dive in "Wild")
« Reply #50 on: August 03, 2005, 08:54:37 AM »
"Wild" will have better hands on info than me...but IMO

     The 1.6 has a 8.9:1 cr stock, the early Mustang Turbos (79-80) had a 9.0:1 stock and ran 5-6 pounds boost...so I would think that would be fairly safe.
     You may still run into ignition problems so I would be thinking of a simple water injection as well. Also in my opinion run an intercooler, even one of the little sprint turbo ones.
     Really think about where (what rpm band) you want your power in as that will affect your drive ratios for the supercharger.
     Be careful and good luck.....I would still go turbo cause I think it would be easier and simpler.

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Re: Super vs Turbo charging (dive in "Wild")
« Reply #51 on: August 03, 2005, 05:54:01 PM »
The stock ECU can only handle 2-3 Max
PSI boost, not much but you will feel it.

Stock CR is 9.1:1 not 8.9:1, I found this
out after I did the turbo, I got the same
info as Zaggy has, so it might be a difference
of Japan built and Cami built, I don't know.

Max boost for stock pistons is 5 PSI, because
they are cast, this is the reason I lost the engine
on the way to Moab, I would say get forged pistons
if you want to boost hard, like 10-12 PSI

Also the Turbo 2.3 Ford engines had 10 PSI
waste gates, I don't know how they got away
with that and no intercooler, but they did

Have fun, but Zaggy has good advice, be
carefull, and don't run lean under boost,
Lean + Boost = Boom   ;)

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