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1.6 Engine valve seals - What to do?

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Offline toolman21

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1.6 Engine valve seals - What to do?
« on: March 28, 2005, 12:36:03 PM »
Ok, so I spent the past month getting my tranny back in the truck, after broken bolts some drilling, etc.. I get it back in drives perfectly, thats great...one problem.

So the valve seals were a little bad before I parked it, smoked a little at times when I cranked it.  Well letting it sit for a year didn't help I guess, smokes pretty bad now when you crank it.  I figure it is just the valve seals, but I really don't want to pull the head to just replace them.  The motor has some miles on it, so I don't want to put a new head on it, that would be crazy to have a new head with an old shortblock.  

But I really don't want to drop the 350 for the rebuild kit, and the 250 for the head, and machine work $$$ right now.

I have toyed with the idea of just putting rings/bearings/gaskets in it, and put the valve seals in, and put it back together, but I haven't found a kit for just that.

Is there anyway to put valve seals in the head without pulling it?  I have heard you can do it, but never seen it done, or know anyone that can do it.  I can do my own work, but not sure what I would need to do the seal replacement, if it is possible while still on the truck.

Basically I want to get out as cheap as I can at the moment, but get rid of the smoking for mosquitos when it cranks...its really annoying.

Advice O' Great Suzuki Gurus?

Thanks..:-)
Toolman

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Re: 1.6 Engine valve seals - What to do?
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2005, 01:29:35 PM »
8v or 16v?

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Re: 1.6 Engine valve seals - What to do?
« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2005, 02:36:32 PM »
He wants to know if you have to put a hole in your radiator or your fire wall.  ;D just kidding, my 16 valve goes streight up.
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Re: 1.6 Engine valve seals - What to do?
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2005, 02:45:41 PM »
Oh ok...so I left a small detail out... :P

It is an 8v motor.

Thanks  ;D
Toolman

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Re: 1.6 Engine valve seals - What to do?
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2005, 02:47:24 PM »
ok hole in fire wall it is.  ;D
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Re: 1.6 Engine valve seals - What to do?
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2005, 02:47:32 PM »
Rings and bearings are available
as seperate parts, I would change
the rod bearings for sure, you could
hone the cylinders and do rings, hand
lap the valves and replace the seals
on the stems, should be good to go,
unless you had a bad rod journal and
did a bad cheep rebuild like me  >:(

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Re: 1.6 Engine valve seals - What to do?
« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2005, 03:10:28 PM »
we have an adapter for our compression tester that allows us to hook the air line right up to it - that keeps the valves from falling into the combustion chamber. you can buy small spring compressors to use without removing the head. if you dont have access to an air compressor you can also push a piece of rope into the cylinder.
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Re: 1.6 Engine valve seals - What to do?
« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2005, 03:15:57 PM »
i love the rope idea, only ever heard of air before