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Offline Mike71

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Need some help
« on: January 04, 2005, 05:18:32 PM »
01 GV v6 auto 4wd

my moms car wont start it goes RRRRRRR like the starter is just spinning..so i recharged the batt didnt work..now what can i check to see if its the starter?

money is super super tight so i need to try and figure this out on my own..any help would be apreciated

it sounds like metal on metal when u start it..it almost sounds like its getting a little compression though

it started fine and drove fine about 2hrs before this happened..so im at a total loss any help is welcome ty
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Re: Need some help
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2005, 05:21:57 PM »
Cold and/or sticky selonoid and/or bendix
bendix is the part that throws the gear into
the flywheel, and pops it back out when the
engine starts so you don't trash it too bad
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Offline Mike71

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Re: Need some help
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2005, 07:12:43 PM »
yah i think the bendix part has gone out..so how do i test this all?

where is the starter relay? is the starter easy to get to?

it kinda sounds like the bendix is weak so its making contact but not all the way or not keeping contact

that would explain the little chugs i hear that sound like its getting compression
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Offline wildgoody

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Re: Need some help
« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2005, 02:03:01 AM »
The selonoid pushes the bendix into the
flywheel, there is a small plastic :o fork
that does the pushing, to fix it you will
have to remove the starter, and have it
tested or test yourself with a battery and
a screwdriver crossed between the big
terminal on the little can, that's the selonoid,
and the small spade terminal, that's the
voltage that would come from the key.

You can watch the starter do it's thing,
but make sure you hold it tight, lots of
torque and it wants to spin on the ground

Good luck
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Offline Mike71

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Re: Need some help
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2005, 11:07:36 AM »
ok well i charged the batt last nite to full and only cranked on it once..now when u get in the car the lights are super dim and the beep is like beee   eeee   eeeeeepppp so the batt is dead again

so i think the batt may just have toasted not giving the starter enough juice...hmm ill look into that today
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Re: Need some help
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2005, 12:06:48 PM »
u probably just need a new battery. if the battery is really old it won't hold a charge anymore....might be cheap to look in to

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Offline Mike71

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Re: Need some help
« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2005, 11:05:39 AM »
ok the dudes at kragen said the batt is perfect...how much water is suposed to be in them?

theres like 1 1/4" from top the resevoir to the water line in each of the holes..suposed to be?

also what does the starter sylinoid look like so i can try that? and how do i do that? just key on then jump it???
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Offline wildgoody

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Re: Need some help
« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2005, 02:29:54 PM »
I wouldn't trust kragen to test
my battery, I've had problems like this
with them before. The lights were dim,
sounds like bad connection, bad ground
or bad battery, clean all connections
posts and cable clamps with a battery
cleaner brush, then try it again
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Offline Mike71

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Re: Need some help
« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2005, 04:47:51 PM »
ok well i put the batt back in today and got click click click light were almost off.i was like wtf

so i took the wire outa the clam and touched the bare wire to the pos batt post and the car made that wizzing grinding sound again..so i dont know what to do

my dads coming home tommorow so i think were gunna try and replace the terminals and power wire see if that helps..
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Re: Need some help
« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2005, 08:58:02 PM »
Have you tried jumping the vehicle? I've seen people go thru all you have gone thru, battery checks ok, blah, blah, and they jump start and it starts right up....Least worth a shot.
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Re: Need some help
« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2005, 11:25:33 PM »
Take the terminals off the battery all together and jump it from another vehicle directly to the terminal cables. Sounds like your battery, but do what I said above to be sure...
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Offline azrocktrash

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Re: Need some help
« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2005, 01:08:01 AM »
make sure you check the condition of all cables.make sure they have no corrotion inside of them.and check your ground wires also.
 if you have a battery that ou know is good put it in and try that.if that don't work then go back to your starter.(if your ground wires are bad,it will use the starter as a ground and make it go out fast)
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