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Samzuki

My Samurai's clearcoat is flaking
« on: July 12, 2007, 03:24:26 PM »
My 88 Samurai's paint doesn't look too bad, except that the clearcoat is beginning to flake off in some areas. :'( What would be a good(cheap) way to remove the remaining clearcoat?

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Samzuki

Re: My Samurai's clearcoat is flaking
« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2007, 10:35:39 AM »
I have been scraping it off with my fingernail but I was wondering if there was a comprehensive solution without having it repainted by a body shop. Any ideas?

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speedball1981

Re: My Samurai's clearcoat is flaking
« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2007, 10:02:30 PM »
take it out wheeling, get some scratches in it and roll it down a hill a few times,  then it wont matter...  and get a "chicks dig body damage sticker"  and you'll be good.

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Samzuki

Re: My Samurai's clearcoat is flaking
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2007, 08:00:30 AM »
Speedball has some good ideas there. ;D

I would like my truck to look as good as possible. Now it looks like it has a sunburn thats peeling.
« Last Edit: July 16, 2007, 08:02:52 AM by Samzuki »

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speedball1981

Re: My Samurai's clearcoat is flaking
« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2007, 12:15:27 PM »
in all seriousness,  there are a lot of low buck options ive seen in my last 5 years wheeling.
1. camoflauge,   if you take your time it can look really neat.
2.bedliner.
3.  krylon,  ive seen alot of people get good results, just take your time sanding it smooth etc. 
4. my samurai is rubberized undercoating with krylon clear-coat over it.
it's no show stopper, but its definetely a 20-20 truck,  and looks good on the trail.

i made the mistake with my first wheeler of haveing it look really really good.   and that made it look really really bad
if you just want it to look ok,  its easier to keep it ok.
it all depends on your driving style, and wheeling habits i guess.

my wheeling motto is usually
"any wich way you can"
wich means i usually hit a few things on the way up the trail, 
good luck.

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Samzuki

Re: My Samurai's clearcoat is flaking
« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2007, 01:21:17 PM »
I think what I would like to do is remove the remaining clear coat and then polish and wax the remaining paint. Then I think it would look pretty good. I am not expecting a showy finish.

I am not doing much hard wheeling. I just drive it on the trails at my hunting lease. I don't worry if the brush scratches it a little. I believe it is the original metallic green. It has a good body and no rust.

I am just wondering if anyone knows of a process to remove the remaining clearcoat.

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Offline RHodge

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Re: My Samurai's clearcoat is flaking
« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2007, 11:50:13 PM »
I think what I would like to do is remove the remaining clear coat and then polish and wax the remaining paint. Then I think it would look pretty good. I am not expecting a showy finish.

I am not doing much hard wheeling. I just drive it on the trails at my hunting lease. I don't worry if the brush scratches it a little. I believe it is the original metallic green. It has a good body and no rust.

I am just wondering if anyone knows of a process to remove the remaining clearcoat.
sorry but taking off the clear and polishing the paint won't work for long the paint don't have
much uv protecion


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speedball1981

Re: My Samurai's clearcoat is flaking
« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2007, 12:41:01 AM »
ok,  i get ya now,  i would say since your not worried about scratches, but you want it to look "good",  you probably could sand the remaining clear-coat,    possibily use a wet sand,  and re clearcoat (they sell it in spray cans)  works pretty well, used it to re clear coat my visor on my bronco.  and you'd save your self alot of dough...
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Re: My Samurai's clearcoat is flaking
« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2007, 05:42:44 PM »
If it were my truck, I would use a waterproof 320 grit wet sandpaper to smooth it off and "feather" (smooth) the edges of the remaining clear coat to leave a smooth surface.  Then lightly wet sand with 400 grit.

If you are going to wheel it, pick a color that you can get in a spray can so you can touch it up easily.  If you have used a spray gun, you need to use the spray can the way you would use a gun.  (Long overlapping strokes, correct distance and not starting or stopping the spray over the surface.)  You can get a finish that will look good from ten feet away.

I had a guy who paints cars for a living say that he couldn't believe mine was painted with Rustoleum...

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Cuthulu

Re: My Samurai's clearcoat is flaking
« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2007, 06:31:48 PM »
I had a 1957 Willies Wagoneer that I had Rhinolined on the outside baby blue (close to the orginal factory color).  It looked really good but I have not found anyone in northern California that will do it to my Tracker.  And just for the record it was not my idea, I saw a guy with a Pienzgauer that had done it already in canarey yellow down in LaHunta Colorado and it looked sharp.

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Samzuki

Re: My Samurai's clearcoat is flaking
« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2007, 08:12:15 AM »
The wet sanding sounds like a good idea. I don't want to repaint it since it still looks pretty good.

What is a good polish for areas where the clearcoat is gone?

What is a good brand of spray can clear coat?

My car is in the shop now(Reliable Automotive, Austin,TX). They checked out the 5" Rocky Road SPOA lift they installed last year, fixed the dash lights, fixed the passenger door to open from the inside, and removed the nasty old carpet. I applaud all of you with the time and talent to do all your own work.
Thankfully no rust was found under the old carpet( except for one tiny spot next to the steering column which they encapsulated with Ospho). The rest of the truck is entirely rust free.

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Re: My Samurai's clearcoat is flaking
« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2007, 07:16:54 PM »
The problem is that once the clearcoat starts flaking, it usually doesn't stop.  The area where the clearcoat is missing, the exposed paint usually discolors quite quickly, so even if you polish it out and clear coat it, it probably won't match. 

Also, the paint that needs a clearcoat isn't designed to take a finish itself.  It is more porous and usually absorbs some of the polish, and the clearcoat won't stick.  It will just flake again. 

I still think the way to go is to wet sand the whole truck and paint it.
« Last Edit: July 19, 2007, 05:36:39 PM by jzap »
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Re: My Samurai's clearcoat is flaking
« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2007, 09:53:12 AM »
I still think the way to go is to wet sand the whole truck and spray it.
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If you try to polish base coat(the color) it will rub off, plus it's very dull because it's a flat paint. You need to cover it with a clearcoat to protect it, and to make it look good(shiny). Clearcoat in a spray can is good, but real clearcoat with hardener mixed at a shop is the best for looks and protection. I'd look around locally and see if you can find someone to sand it close to the base and re-clear it. Or, wet sand the spots yourself, clear using the spraycan stuff, the wet sand to spots after dried with 1500 - 2000 sandpaper to smooth out the edges, and then polish. You should read up on Color Sanding first, before doing it, you can use the same steps to blend your old clear with the new clear. If you watch Trucks!, Stacey demonstrated color sanding a long time ago on a Cherokee(I think).

http://www.carcraft.com/howto/926/
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