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erik the red

SWB or LWB?
« on: August 06, 2007, 05:13:04 PM »
 
  Hey all,

     I'm tryin to order OME suspension parts, and I thought I had it all figured out. Then I went down to 4 wheel parts and talk to the guys down there. The configuration I want is for lwb Track/Kick, (mostly because OME 959 offers a tiny bit more height from the spring, vs. 953). My question is, what is the difference between swb and lwb? I have dug up measurements (457mm in the front and 480 rear for swb) (455mm front and 460 rear for lwb) from Zuwharrie. Well my Tracker doesn't fit either of those measurements LOL. I get 457 mm in the front and 469 mm in the rear. (measuring from center of hubcap to top of wheelwell.) Not sure how that defines "wheel base" anyways. I guess, bottom line, will it make any difference OME partwise if I were to order lwb springs and my truck was a swb? Would they not seat correctly? or something else stupid like that? thanks for the help.
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Offline museboy07

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Re: SWB or LWB?
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2007, 05:20:44 PM »
lwb and swb should be the same as to putting the parts on.  John1974 uses 3in boondox lift coils meant for an lwb on his swb so i dont think there should be a problem
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Re: SWB or LWB?
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2007, 05:22:29 PM »
   it will have a negative effect on the ride qualityand sometimes can impede proper flex,and suspension performance.
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erik the red

Re: SWB or LWB?
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2007, 05:30:05 PM »


 
Quote from: kingzoo on August 06, 2007, 05:22:29 PM
   it will have a negative effect on the ride qualityand sometimes can impede proper flex,and suspension performance.

 really? with only 2mm in the front and 20mm in the rear difference? that's 0.0788 inches in the front and 0.787999 etc. in the rear.
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Re: SWB or LWB?
« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2007, 06:25:37 PM »
In general, LWB springs put into a SWB truck will provide more lift.
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erik the red

Re: SWB or LWB?
« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2007, 04:49:54 PM »

  Got it figured out. I emailed Michael Tomzyack at ARB and he confirmed the '96 4 door is a long wheel base. I kinda figured that, but wasn't sure. Thanks for the responses guys.
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Re: SWB or LWB?
« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2007, 04:56:41 AM »
Quote from: erik the red on August 07, 2007, 04:49:54 PM

  Got it figured out. I emailed Michael Tomzyack at ARB and he confirmed the '96 4 door is a long wheel base. I kinda figured that, but wasn't sure. Thanks for the responses guys.

Ah I think I understand your question now. All 4 doors are LWB, all 2drs are SWB. The wheel base is the distance between the centre of the front wheel hub and the centre of the back wheel hub.
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kingzoo

Re: SWB or LWB?
« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2007, 07:30:43 AM »
  it is not the extra length that causes the problem,it is the springs rate and capacity,especially if it is a progressive spring.
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Re: SWB or LWB?
« Reply #8 on: August 08, 2007, 01:43:50 PM »
Quote from: Rhinoman on August 08, 2007, 04:56:41 AM
Quote from: erik the red on August 07, 2007, 04:49:54 PM

  Got it figured out. I emailed Michael Tomzyack at ARB and he confirmed the '96 4 door is a long wheel base. I kinda figured that, but wasn't sure. Thanks for the responses guys.

Ah I think I understand your question now. All 4 doors are LWB, all 2drs are SWB. The wheel base is the distance between the centre of the front wheel hub and the centre of the back wheel hub.
Just in case...(eric the red)
LWB = Long Wheel Base (4-Door)
SWB = Short Wheel Base(2-Door)
Quote from: erik the red on August 06, 2007, 05:13:04 PM
I guess, bottom line, will it make any difference OME partwise if I were to order lwb springs and my truck was a swb?
« Last Edit: August 08, 2007, 01:46:03 PM by Uncivilized »
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Re: SWB or LWB?
« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2007, 12:47:04 PM »
The reason for different springs is the difference in weight!  The 4 door is obviously heavier.  Therefore it requires a stiffer spring rate.  So when you put LWB springs into a SWB the springs won't sag as much creating some "lift".
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Re: SWB or LWB?
« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2007, 12:56:18 PM »
Eric, come and say hi when you come and pick up that suspension.
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erik the red

Re: SWB or LWB?
« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2007, 06:57:01 PM »
Quote from: crikeymike on August 09, 2007, 12:56:18 PM
Eric, come and say hi when you come and pick up that suspension.

Hey mike,

      You down at the Seattle ARB? I wanted to swing in and pick it up tonight, but with the M's playing and the n 5 construction, plus being a Friday I settled for waiting until Mon. (long 3 day wait LOL). Are you anywhere near will call? The sky body lift came in today as well, so I am pumped!!
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