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Re: strut extender review needed
« Reply #15 on: December 23, 2007, 01:54:49 PM »
i used a solid chunk of roundstock stainless which i then turned in a lathe and...

Stainless!  That's totally rock bling , and I love it.  Cna you post a pic?  Damn thing must look sweeter than a powercoated blue ones.

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Re: strut extender review needed
« Reply #16 on: December 23, 2007, 03:30:15 PM »
Okay.  That wraps it up for me.  Two identical flukes.  I'll not be getting myself a set of those extenders.  If a weakened one finally let go when I hit a pothole on the freeway.......yeah.  No thanks.
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Re: strut extender review needed
« Reply #17 on: December 23, 2007, 04:08:46 PM »
Since I already have them and I don't jump or do any serious boggin' Im gonna give them a run.. if the CV bind is too much or I get some extra scratch I might upgrade later..

Thanks guys for all the imput!

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Re: strut extender review needed
« Reply #18 on: December 24, 2007, 08:58:26 AM »
Well I have to say it all depends on how hard ya pound yer truck... I mean ya jumped the rig... What do you expect? For it not to break?
Ya I have pounded the crap out of my 4dr and use the Boondox 2" strut extensions and have had absolutely no issues with them. From rocks to mud to 40mph trail runs and no issues with them at all.
Now another thing i here ppl talking about blue anodized from Boondox? Mine were black and looked like they had been tempered.
If you are worried about them then don't buy them... If you do buy them make sure they are torqued on to 80f/pounds with red lock tite so they never have a chance of backing them off.
Mybe thats why they are braking apart.. Due to improper installation.
Not laying blame but saying "Just maybe..."
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Re: strut extender review needed
« Reply #19 on: December 24, 2007, 01:01:48 PM »
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Stainless!  That's totally rock bling



no way man...no bling here.....keep em mud covered...i tried to clean it a bit for the pic...but its froze right on there good.....about 23 degreez here a.t.m.

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Well I have to say it all depends on how hard ya pound yer truck



TOTALLY AGREE....its a truck...not an atv or AIRPLANE....these things arent made to fly...no wings on 'em...if ya keep your rubber on terra-firma you shouldnt have an issue...ive had my lift on for a couple years, an ive beat the snot out of it....blew it up, rebuilt it and still continue to beat the snot out of it...michigan roads are about the worst around.....and i drive ALL dirt roads...try to avoid pavement as much as possible (snakes slither out there) and like ive said...no issues!
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Re: strut extender review needed
« Reply #20 on: December 27, 2007, 09:21:09 AM »
I respectfully disagree with the "everything should be fine" comments.  Remember, this is a MacPherson strut set up, not a double A-arm.  In a Mac set up, it's the strut that maintains the geometery of the steering knuckle.  Remove the strut, and the knuckle flops around.  This is not the case in a double a-arm.  In that case, remove the strut, and the knuckle maintains its geometery (like on a Kia Sporty).  The strut shaft in a Kicker sees forces both longitudinally and laterally.  Longitundinally, it's not a big deal, but laterally puts the extender in a stressful condition.  The pic I saw of a cracked extender seemed to be caused by the lateral force I mentioned.

If it were me (and it isn't) I'd add a strut spacer, or flip the stock mount.  It's not like the extender adds useful travel.

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Re: strut extender review needed
« Reply #21 on: December 27, 2007, 02:15:36 PM »
If it were me (and it isn't) I'd add a strut spacer, or flip the stock mount.  It's not like the extender adds useful travel.

Unfortunately you can not flip 2nd generation vitara's strut bearing plate due to its large size, and I haven't come across any strut spacers for the newer vehicles yet..  :'(
Call SKy" and order his strut extenders they are pretty trick.

  Kevin
How much do they extend?

Any idea if the stock strut could handle adding a 1" coil spacer to springs, or would that just fully extend it and make the ride harsh?  Also, would that yield approx 1.5" lift still?
« Last Edit: December 27, 2007, 04:32:18 PM by dentedzuk »

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Re: strut extender review needed
« Reply #22 on: December 27, 2007, 06:54:16 PM »
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I respectfully disagree with the "everything should be fine" comments.  Remember, this is a MacPherson strut set up, not a double A-arm.  In a Mac set up, it's the strut that maintains the geometery of the steering knuckle.  Remove the strut, and the knuckle flops around.  This is not the case in a double a-arm.  In that case, remove the strut, and the knuckle maintains its geometery (like on a Kia Sporty).  The strut shaft in a Kicker sees forces both longitudinally and laterally.  Longitundinally, it's not a big deal, but laterally puts the extender in a stressful condition.  The pic I saw of a cracked extender seemed to be caused by the lateral force I mentioned.

If it were me (and it isn't) I'd add a strut spacer, or flip the stock mount.  It's not like the extender adds useful travel.


ok...ok...the strut spacer does add useful travel....the stock mount flip does add useful travel?? how can the extender not?? they all do the same thing...add length to the strut for your downtravel.....how the heck can a extender not add travel??? and yes, in a mac. type setup the strut does see both lateral and longitudinally stress...but ....do you ever hear of a strut breaking?? i figured the spacer was the best idea...i didnt like the idea of messing with the strut mount because have you guys really thought about what it may do to the actual body where it mounts to....its pretty thin...like crushed budweiser cans imho....so it just seemed more logical to make a extender that was as strong as the strut rod itself....rather than space down the mount which weakens that point....mines workin badass so far...as mentioned earlier, thou.....keep all 4 tires on the ground....jumping is for atv's and such.....when we lift our trucklets, that puts exponential stress on everything else....drive accordingly.....
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Re: strut extender review needed
« Reply #23 on: December 28, 2007, 01:05:50 PM »
ok...ok...the strut spacer does add useful travel....the stock mount flip does add useful travel?? how can the extender not?? they all do the same thing...add length to the strut for your downtravel.....how the heck can a extender not add travel???

I never said spacers or flipped mounts add useful travel.  AFAIK, the only way to get extended useful travel is running OME or the prototype Calmini extended struts.  Everything else retains the stock travel.

Re: strut extender review needed
« Reply #24 on: December 28, 2007, 01:09:51 PM »
If it were me (and it isn't) I'd add a strut spacer, or flip the stock mount.  It's not like the extender adds useful travel.

Unfortunately you can not flip 2nd generation vitara's strut bearing plate due to its large size, and I haven't come across any strut spacers for the newer vehicles yet..  :'(

Well, now that you say it's a gen 2 Vit, well thats different.

There are spacers, Calmini makes them, but they are part of their kit.  They is another place making knock-off of them, so you could try there as well.

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Re: strut extender review needed
« Reply #25 on: December 28, 2007, 02:36:24 PM »
Who makes the knock-offs?


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Re: strut extender review needed
« Reply #26 on: December 28, 2007, 07:03:30 PM »
i am not clear on the above post saying extenders or strut spacers don't add useful travel??  when i added my extenders i got that much extra downtravel which was what i was looking for, now the struts don't move up as far as they would have without the extenders but that's fine, they haven't been bottoming out, so far i only see an advantage having them.  of course i do not jump my dd tracker but the fronts still manage to find themselves off the ground in off camber situations even with the extended travel, just not as much or as often.

if a 1inch spacer is added you will top out your struts on and off road, i can promise that, it will work but bang on the front end and be hard on the struts, you won't like it, take the time to do it right once!  wish i would have...
« Last Edit: December 28, 2007, 07:06:09 PM by bzzr2 »
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Re: strut extender review needed
« Reply #27 on: December 29, 2007, 03:00:45 PM »
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if a 1inch spacer is added you will top out your struts on and off road, i can promise that, it will work but bang on the front end and be hard on the struts, you won't like it, take the time to do it right once!  wish i would have...

TOO LATE!!  I put in a 1" spacer today without the extenders. The front struts are almost fully extended but there is still 5/16" left to extend.  I already put in 2" spacers in the rear, and now it sits pretty well balanced. The rear is only about 3/8" higher.  I decided against the extenders because my struts are crap. ones leaking, and the other isnt that far behind, also i dont want to overextend the CVs.  I figure I will do it the right way after  taxes!  Since I need new struts anyways might as well replace them with the OME struts, add OME springs, and try to find some diff drops! ;D  Anyways, the ride on the road is fine, yea the front is now very stiff and i tryed a couple fast hits on a speed bump.. which now I will be very careful to avoid! But, all and all I can live with it for now. Correct me if im wrong, but wouldn't adding an 1" spacer to an OME lift spring with OME struts be about the same as adding it to the stock setup?

Thanks for the help guys, anyone what to buy some strut extenders?!  >:D
« Last Edit: December 29, 2007, 05:25:33 PM by dentedzuk »

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Re: strut extender review needed
« Reply #28 on: December 29, 2007, 09:49:36 PM »
haha, i remember the 1st time i hit a speed bump without the extensions..  regarding the 1inch spacer with the ome spring up front, that is what i plan on doing, it should be fine, even without the diff drop and ome struts. 
03-ZR2, 2dr, 31x10.5 SSR's & stuff...--sold :-(
03 xl7, jeff's 2inch spacer lift, 225/75/16's; sold
09 taco reg cab short box 4x4