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Offline Bobzooki

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Re: rear disk brakes
« Reply #45 on: February 22, 2005, 08:39:15 AM »
So why couldn't you use Spidertrax Wilwood Caliper mounts, http://www.spidertrax.com/brakes_wcm.htm

and Wilwood Calipers (oh, no parking brake levers...)

http://www.spidertrax.com/brakes_wil.htm



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Re: rear disk brakes
« Reply #46 on: February 22, 2005, 09:11:18 AM »
thanks rhinoman, i will be looking at thicknesses also.

and as for the spidertrax gear, thems some bling bling calipers and mounts. probably would be the most valuable thing on my vit if i got them. too bling for me. i just something to pull me up with out being beat by the mud.

thanks guys
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Re: rear disk brakes
« Reply #47 on: February 22, 2005, 11:38:35 AM »
How where the stock lines for the front calipers adapted to the rear lines??

I'm runnin into a snag here. Might take the existing rubber lines, cut off the end without the banjo fitting and have a shop crimp on the adapter I need.
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Re: rear disk brakes
« Reply #48 on: February 22, 2005, 12:09:28 PM »
cheif, this was the original idea when i looked at the fittings. theres no other way that i know of or have come accross, other than to get custom lines made up.
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Re: rear disk brakes
« Reply #49 on: February 22, 2005, 10:53:27 PM »
I had steel braided lines made up. Over here most motorcycle shops will do custom lines and keep metric fittings.
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Re: rear disk brakes
« Reply #50 on: February 24, 2005, 06:55:26 AM »
Sikid,

No updates from me - I've been to busy with my 2nd job to even look at Mudfkr, however this is about to change as my Anvil and 5.83 arrived yesterday and front ARB will be here Tuesday so work will have to wait until Mudfkr is rolling again  ;D

Pity those wilwooods don't have a hand brake on them they'd make a sweet set up.

I'll update you once I get back into it.
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Re: rear disk brakes
« Reply #51 on: February 24, 2005, 07:45:35 AM »
Hi Shane, have you looked at the Mitsubishi Magna TE, TH, or TJ rear disc and caliper setup? It was suggested to me the other day as it has a handbrake and the discs are to suit a 14" wheel so clearance should be OK. The guy was saying that it comes with a caliper mounting plate so the calipers would be in the right position for the discs and it may be possible to adapt it to the Vit. The wagon and the sedan have different sized pistons in the calipers and he reckoned the wagon calipers would be about right. The other plus is I can get the discs pulled of the production line at any stage and have final maching done to suit. Just something else to throw into the mix.
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Re: rear disk brakes
« Reply #52 on: February 26, 2005, 05:27:16 AM »
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Hi Shane, have you looked at the Mitsubishi Magna TE, TH, or TJ rear disc and caliper setup? It was suggested to me the other day as it has a handbrake and the discs are to suit a 14" wheel so clearance should be OK. The guy was saying that it comes with a caliper mounting plate so the calipers would be in the right position for the discs and it may be possible to adapt it to the Vit. The wagon and the sedan have different sized pistons in the calipers and he reckoned the wagon calipers would be about right. The other plus is I can get the discs pulled of the production line at any stage and have final maching done to suit. Just something else to throw into the mix.


I looked at all sorts of calipers before deciding to go with the Nissan ones but can't remember if I seen any Magna ones. The Nissan ones should work out fine I just need to find some time to get on to it.

I pulled the drums off yesterday  so I can get the 3RD out for the 5.83 install this week ( ;D) and the new shoes with less than 15 hours wheeling are 50% worn  :(
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Re: rear disk brakes
« Reply #53 on: February 26, 2005, 12:06:27 PM »
shane, i was told by just about everyone i've asked about the nissan calipers, and they have said that they are a bad design and seize constantly. thats with normal road use with no mud and water and durt.

but come to think of it, it is only the older model nissans, such as the pintara, R30 and R31 skylines, and bluebirds, if you could find them.

i found a very good caliper, and just about perfect, its off a KF ford laser TX3. also, a newer proton sedan has a very similar rear caliper, so may look into those.

although, i may be wrong, as you've been looking into this for some time now.

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Re: rear disk brakes
« Reply #54 on: September 13, 2005, 12:36:45 PM »
I might have found another option, Suzuki and said to be bolt in  ;)...
Off of a Suzuki swift GTI, rear Kick/Vit discs, machined back to 240 mm's instead of 290 mm (9 1/4 inch instead of 11 1/4 inch). thickness is the same. If you get the calliper mount off off the swift it would bolt right on (still have to try this). But I'm about to order the parts from the Junkyard  ;) and see how it turns out.....
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Re: rear disk brakes
« Reply #55 on: September 13, 2005, 12:59:16 PM »
The Swift calipers have been used for a few SJ conversions over here. The kits all come with custom made brackets. The only difference between the Vit and SJ mounting arrangements (AFAIK) is that the Vit has a bigger hole through the centre. When I was looking at doing a conversion myself I was told by someone who made an SJ kit that the Swift caliper wouldn't be man enough for the extra weight of the VIt. They could be wrong though, let us know how it turns out.
I should be receiving some LWB front calipers this week so I will be going over my brakes again soon, still leaning towards the Rover calipers.

I dug out my brake bleeding kit earlier, its been a while since I used it, lol:



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Re: rear disk brakes
« Reply #56 on: September 14, 2005, 02:30:35 PM »
I lied  :-[ I'm a bad man, lol. The hole in the centre for the Vit/Track/Kick is smaller if it was bigger then we could have machined out the centre of an SJ conversion but we had to make new brackets instead  ::).
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Re: rear disk brakes
« Reply #57 on: September 14, 2005, 02:37:56 PM »
I think I'll have to have bracket's machined either way... Found out today that the distance of the outer diameter to the first step of getting thicker is the same on the swifts and vit, so that might mean that the brake pads will sit a little bit next to the disc...... dunno if that's such a good idea, but will get some callipers and pads to test before I say no  ;)
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Re: rear disk brakes
« Reply #58 on: September 14, 2005, 07:04:01 PM »
My rear disc swap id DONE.

Used the brackets from Trail Tough, have a line lock for my e-brake and still need a proportioning valve, but it's not THAT bad. The discs work GREAT, and I used a stock rubber line for a sammi caplier, and adapted a SS line to that.  8)
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Re: rear disk brakes
« Reply #59 on: September 15, 2005, 04:53:04 AM »
Quote from: Chief on September 14, 2005, 07:04:01 PM
My rear disc swap id DONE.

Used the brackets from Trail Tough, have a line lock for my e-brake and still need a proportioning valve, but it's not THAT bad. The discs work GREAT, and I used a stock rubber line for a sammi caplier, and adapted
 a SS line to that.  8)

We hav eto have  a mechanical ebrake over here. Why do you need the proportioning valve? Too much pedal travel or too much power in the rear brakes?
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