Bah.  Wuss.

My wife has driven ours without the bar for almost a year now and she thinks she's Mario Andretti.

I drove mine for a good four months or so and it wasn't that bad but I really think it would be best to find a way to make it disconnectable. I didn't really notice how much it helps on the road till I put it back on

Quote from: AJMBLAZER on June 12, 2006, 03:33:06 AM

Bah.  Wuss.

My wife has driven ours without the bar for almost a year now and she thinks she's Mario Andretti.

I drove mine for a good four months or so and it wasn't that bad but I really think it would be best to find a way to make it disconnectable. I didn't really notice how much it helps on the road till I put it back on

lol, well with that said then i guess i just won't put mine back on...

lol, good idea

ok def noob lol. can someone post a pic for me where it woudl be so i can tyake it off asap. after reading all this i dunno why zuki even puts em on. must be just to wreak our backs over bumps lol

ok def noob lol. can someone post a pic for me where it woudl be so i can tyake it off asap. after reading all this i dunno why zuki even puts em on. must be just to wreak our backs over bumps lol

LOL, if you look under your kick, and can't tell what and where a sway bar is, you have no business disconnecting it...

Get under there and look, and think it through.  That way you will get an idea of how it works too, and you will have learned something, instead of just following the masses and taking something off.

hey nuthign worng with just taking stuff off lol. if someone couodl convince me id get better gas milage without the engin i'd take that out to lol awyas all joeks aside, i always thought the sway bars were under the hood like in sport compact cars. i was more the tuner type seeing as i'm 18 and never even thought of lookin under the car lol. but now thta i have my zuki i'd never go back to those rice fart can things lol. i gess if no one wants to tell me what to take off exactly trail and error sumtimesowrks lol peace guys

Nope, that is a strut brace you are talking about.. nice thing to have on ANY MacPherson Strut vehicle.. really helps to solid it up.

What we are talking about here, is a metal bar, running from side to side, UNDER the vehicle, in this case, it is a FRONT sway bar.  and it attaches with linkage, to each A arm. It keeps the vehicle more flat in turns, it doesn't allow full articulation of the front suspension. They are usually fairly important on road vehicles, but not actually needed. I don't like the feel of a road vehicle without a sway bar.. but it's personal preference, especially with stiffer suspension like some of us run (either through coil spacers, or different coils) and the truth is, they aren't SWAY BARS, they are ANTI-SWAY BARS... lol...

Look for something that links each side of the suspension to the frame in one continuous peice.  Literally just hang your head under the truck from the front and you'll see it under the front suspension.

That's your hint, use it wisely.

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hah thanx for the straight forward answers that time haha. now that u say that i can picture it in my mind of what it is without even lookin. see learn sumthign new each day and being 18 i have atleats 4 more years ahead of me to learn things. if i don't die doin sumthign stupid befor that then were doin good lol. tahnx again guys

Nope, that is a strut brace you are talking about.. nice thing to have on ANY MacPherson Strut vehicle.. really helps to solid it up.

What we are talking about here, is a metal bar, running from side to side, UNDER the vehicle, in this case, it is a FRONT sway bar.  and it attaches with linkage, to each A arm. It keeps the vehicle more flat in turns, it doesn't allow full articulation of the front suspension. They are usually fairly important on road vehicles, but not actually needed. I don't like the feel of a road vehicle without a sway bar.. but it's personal preference, especially with stiffer suspension like some of us run (either through coil spacers, or different coils) and the truth is, they aren't SWAY BARS, they are ANTI-SWAY BARS... lol...

just curious, how do coil spacers make it stiffer? I spose it it's way stiff once I install my coil spacers I could take my sway bar off if it's that bad. I have my sway bar on because I mainly use my GV as a daily driver. only going to gently off road it on ocasion from time to time. I get in a hurry or just feel like taking corners fast from time to time so the sway bar comes in handy. even with it in I'll have to quit that a bit when I lift it I'm sure.. lol. the new tires I'm getting in the fall or late summer will apreciate slower corners too

Think of your suspension as a triangle with your lower control arm where it hits the knuckle as one end, where the lca mounts to the frame as another, and the upper coil bucket as the last point.

Adding coil spacers to this triangle means you're increasing the length of one side but not the others.  You're effectively increasing the leverage exerted on the suspension so your effective spring rate goes up as well.

Dunno if that makes sense.  It's not a lot but it is there.

Quote from: Quaddawg on June 14, 2006, 07:25:33 PM

Nope, that is a strut brace you are talking about.. nice thing to have on ANY MacPherson Strut vehicle.. really helps to solid it up.

What we are talking about here, is a metal bar, running from side to side, UNDER the vehicle, in this case, it is a FRONT sway bar.  and it attaches with linkage, to each A arm. It keeps the vehicle more flat in turns, it doesn't allow full articulation of the front suspension. They are usually fairly important on road vehicles, but not actually needed. I don't like the feel of a road vehicle without a sway bar.. but it's personal preference, especially with stiffer suspension like some of us run (either through coil spacers, or different coils) and the truth is, they aren't SWAY BARS, they are ANTI-SWAY BARS... lol...

just curious, how do coil spacers make it stiffer? I spose it it's way stiff once I install my coil spacers I could take my sway bar off if it's that bad. I have my sway bar on because I mainly use my GV as a daily driver. only going to gently off road it on ocasion from time to time. I get in a hurry or just feel like taking corners fast from time to time so the sway bar comes in handy. even with it in I'll have to quit that a bit when I lift it I'm sure.. lol. the new tires I'm getting in the fall or late summer will apreciate slower corners too

Yeah, what Blazer said...  That is the main reason I won't use spacers.. Aftermarket coils are SUPPOSED to keep a stock, or stock like ride, sometimes they do, sometimes they don't.  To tell you the truth, I feel it's better to have a SOFTER ride than stock, and a GOOD set of off road shocks, instead of just jacking the damn truck up with any sort of spacer/ride height booster you can cram under there..

Another thing to Sidekick101.. you say your Tracker is harsh riding.. How much air pressure are you using on the street??

it's making sense. the control arm has less leverage on the coil correct? well, I might be taking my sway bar off to soften the ride. I have pro comp es 1000's that work great in the back right now but they bottom out so that's part of why I'm putting the spacers on and bigger bottom out pads in the back. think I'll have to put longer struts on to which I'm not happy about because of the cost of ome's. I think the stock struts are likely shot cause the back shocks were about there so if I'm going to replace them I might as well do the ome's instead of screwing around

thanks for pointing out why spacers make a stiffer ride up front. quaddawg, I thought you had spacers? if you have lift coils what kind did you get?

I'm pretty sure the struts hold up better than the shocks, in which case you could get away with a pair of extensions for $45 instead of OME struts for $250.  If you do get the OME you might want to look around Zuwharrie, I remember seeing a guy that works at 4 wheel parts and said he could get the OME's for about $110 each.

By the way, click on Quadawg's pic to see his specs.