LOL  Wayne  

You should se the 2" lifted rear YJ ?
I think they were, I got from Heather,
I don't fit in my brothers garage with
those in, SYE is needed before I slip
those back in, and relocate the shock
mounts.  Ohh I remember something ........
another mod  

Wild

LOL  Wayne  

You should se the 2" lifted rear YJ ?
I think they were, I got from Heather,
I don't fit in my brothers garage with
those in, SYE is needed before I slip
those back in, and relocate the shock
mounts.  Ohh I remember something ........
another mod  

Wild

Its not the jeeps I left it the jeople. YJs are leaf sprung it was Probly TJ stuff. I got a garage you can fit it into.

Hey wild I got a serious Electrical prob at the shop. the Main feed breaker at the house trips even with the panel main off at the shop. I think varmits have eaten into my cables and all the rain is causing a short to gruond.

Thanks
Wayne

I have always used, XJ (Cherokee) fronts for my 4-dr rear  (With the upper link spacer).  I also have a set of TJ fronts for teh rear.  Never had any troubles with the fit, but they are a little larger then the DIA of the stock coils.

I just bought a sety of 2"+ Cherokee fronts,  Ebay.

I'm swappoing those into the rear and moving my 2" coil spacer on top of my 2"+  Explorer front coils.  

Hoping to get the 36's under their with room to move.

Can't wait to see this divorced Sammy T-case mentioned above.  I'm looking at a similar non divorced set up.

I'm still runningthe slip yoke but with a D-shaft spacer.

I can make a SYE in short order and will probally do so next time I have the T-case out.  

I have always used, XJ (Cherokee) fronts for my 4-dr rear  (With the upper link spacer).  I also have a set of TJ fronts for teh rear.  Never had any troubles with the fit, but they are a little larger then the DIA of the stock coils.

I just bought a sety of 2"+ Cherokee fronts,  Ebay.

I'm swappoing those into the rear and moving my 2" coil spacer on top of my 2"+  Explorer front coils.  

Hoping to get the 36's under their with room to move.

Can't wait to see this divorced Sammy T-case mentioned above.  I'm looking at a similar non divorced set up.

I'm still runningthe slip yoke but with a D-shaft spacer.

I can make a SYE in short order and will probally do so next time I have the T-case out.  

That's alot of lift! When do the stock lower links max out in down travel? I can't get much more out of mine with the stock XJ coils in there, or so I think.

I'm gonna use the stock driveshaft as the intermediate shaft between the 2wd tranny and sammi case, then modify the existing front shaft (lengthen it) then gonna use the slip splined shaft from a sammy extended with the material left over from shorting the stock rear shaft. All with Tracker flanges. I thought I got a pre 86 sammi case, but I got a post 86 case with the big flanges.

Lower arms are maxed now, The angle they run  cause the rear wheel to try to walk  under the truck and lift the front.   I'll be remaking the lowers at the same time.  Just trying to find a free local parts donor for the necessary frame brackets.  

My current lower arms are +1.5,  Upper is + 2" all to keep the big tires out of the back door.  Yes the springsa are doing the Limbo.  I'll remake the upper & lower buckets soon enough.  

LOL  Wayne  

You should se the 2" lifted rear YJ ?
I think they were, I got from Heather,
I don't fit in my brothers garage with
those in, SYE is needed before I slip
those back in, and relocate the shock
mounts.  Ohh I remember something ........
another mod  

Wild

Darrin,
I think we sent you 2" lifted TJ front springs.

We are using YJ's all the way around on our kick now.

~Nate

Okay... I'm not getting all this to well..

So If I was use XJ front springs on my tracker rear it'll fit? What is this ball joint spacer I hear about? And lastly the TJ springs? if you use them how much lift will it give? Are they stock springs?

Right now I have 2" longer springs and a 1" spacer for the rear and front. So if I put the XJ springs in the rear it will raise it up around 3" or a little more?

What mods do I have to do to get them in and what do I have to watch out for? Right now in the rear I have XJ front shocks mounted for the extra travel and to make it stiffer for all the camping gear I truck along.

My brother has a stock XJ parted so I can get my hands on the stock springs east so any way to clear this up would be great

Wil

Okay... I'm not getting all this to well..

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My brother has a stock XJ parted so I can get my hands on the stock springs east so any way to clear this up would be great

Wil

You tell us. Shoot some pics, and don't forget about before and after measurements. This is the important part.
With free stuff, it's rather just time consuming to swap and see. Take those front XJ coils, place them in the rear and tell us.

The joint referenced is the upper link joint located on top of the differential. By lifting you basically are binding this link.

The 2" lifted TJ YJ ?J ohh ya KY    Springs
will lift the back 5 to 6 " with no spacers

Wild

Okay... I'm not getting all this to well..

1.  What is this ball joint spacer I hear about?

2.   If you use them how much lift will it give?

3.   Are they stock springs?

4.   If I put the XJ springs in the rear it will raise it up around 3" or a little more?

5.   What mods do I have to do to get them in?

1.  Rear axle upper link spacer, Place the ball joint plate spacer on top of the Thrid member where the link bolts to the 3rd member housing.

2.  3" -   5"  depends on what Kick you are placing them on, how they rest on the axle (XJ's are alittle big for the stock Side kick lower spring cups) and how much weight you are carrying.

3.  yes,  stock spring.

4.  See #2

5.  Yes you will need the rear axle ball joint spacer see #1   Here is a picture of the one I made below.

   

Okay Thanks for all the help.

Now here's another question. Say we take the average and it goes up 4" in the rear, I build myself the diff ball joint extender.

Now I have 3" of suspension life right now in the front. and I still have the independent front. 2" springs and 1" spacer.  

I've had the CV blow on me before and I will be putting the 1" spacer plate on the short shaft to give it more play.. is 3" max for my front? or what is the way to get more.. with out blowing everything to bits or going to SAS... and having the wheels have major positive camber?

Is this even posible without major fab work?

I think that XJ's and TJ's fronts are nearly identical.

I'd like to know if anybody has ever directly compared them.

I remember our TJ's and have seen XJ's and they look damn near the same in diameter, length and coil thickness.

Anybody have any input on that ?

~Nate

I think that XJ's and TJ's fronts are nearly identical.

I'd like to know if anybody has ever directly compared them.

I remember our TJ's and have seen XJ's and they look damn near the same in diameter, length and coil thickness.

Anybody have any input on that ?

~Nate

I got a set of each and they are similar but TJs are a bit longer and have a bit different twist.  I never put em on a spring compresion tester but I think the Tj are a bit softer too judging by the ride after the swap only. They provided about 1" lift on my stock XJ. Oh and they were 6 cyl hard top too.

Thanks
Wayne

Sweet!.
Thanks for the great info.
~Nate

Well, I'm taking out my XJ coils. I don't like em. They're too stiff. The rear end is ALL over the place when I get any type of speed. It's all over the road.

Time to go back to the stock coils, 2" spacer, and I'm gonna add some tricks!