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Re: tracker died on me AGAIN
« Reply #15 on: December 09, 2004, 04:51:31 AM »
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Re: tracker died on me AGAIN
« Reply #16 on: December 09, 2004, 10:25:57 AM »
Easy fix to all the starting problem... put in a relay. For some reason most of the track/kick out of the factory didn't get enough juice to the starter. I had the problem.. did the tappy with the hammer thing for a while just about to change it to a new one but decided to try the relay.

Been worknig without a problem ever since. Auto start and everything not one time it didn't start.

If you know how a relay works and how to wire it up it'll take like 10 mins tops.

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Re: tracker died on me AGAIN
« Reply #17 on: December 30, 2004, 07:16:38 AM »
ok well now im having fuel issues. i just dropped the tank today and the tank inside is clean. i dont know wht the problem is sono as i can find my volt meter im going to test the voltage put to the pump and then connect it back up and if it dont' fire..well i got my answer  >:(

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Re: tracker died on me AGAIN
« Reply #18 on: December 30, 2004, 07:29:20 AM »
I feel for ya with the starter problems.  That has been the lone plague for the Lawdog.  I had the same problem, nothing when I turned the key, but I could roll start just fine.  I also found that when it was running I could get the starter to engage and grind.  So the terminals were cleaned.  I worked for a while and then took another dump at Zuwharrie.  There I had to whack it with a hammer.  This was a new starter that I had just dropped $48 bucks on.  So the moral of the story is, as much as the LMS crew has learned about Zuks in general, some problems have to be attacked from all diretions.  Just try everything until the damn thing works again.  Oh, did you check the small wire that tells the starter to engage initially.  Start with that after you have replace the main terminals and wires.  Also check the ground for the starter at the block.  If that fails then replace the starter.  And check that e-mail address that keith posted, or at least shop a couple of parts stores before you shell out 100 bucks for a starter.  Good luck man! Oh, and might I mention that the Lawdog refuses to turn over again.  I'm fairly certain it's one of the crappy wires I didn't replace now.  
 As far as the fuel pump goes, it should make a whining/humming noise when you first turn the key on.  If you don't have a meter, listen for that.
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Re: tracker died on me AGAIN
« Reply #19 on: December 30, 2004, 07:42:03 AM »
Lawdog, your new engine wont turn over or your old one? You get it swapped yet? Good luck... ;D
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Re: tracker died on me AGAIN
« Reply #20 on: December 30, 2004, 08:22:39 AM »
the starter isn't the issue anymore..now it's the fuel...and i dropped my whole tank today and looked, it's clean so tomorrow im hardlining my fuel pump to my battery and it it pumps then it's the relay. and if i cant get a relay to work i got me some fancy kill switch custom wiring to do  :o

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Re: tracker died on me AGAIN
« Reply #21 on: December 30, 2004, 02:32:06 PM »
What reasons do you think you have a fuel problem? Whats it doing.. or not doing?
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Re: tracker died on me AGAIN
« Reply #22 on: December 30, 2004, 03:03:29 PM »
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What reasons do you think you have a fuel problem? Whats it doing.. or not doing?


ok well last ngiht after driving about 7 miles and shutting her off for like 15...she started and died right away and wouldn't restart. we couldn't hear the fuel pump pressurize. it ran with ether temp but wouldn't stay running. and today i went down and sprayed a wee bit of ether into the filter and she fired up and actually got me home. while idling in my driveway and listening for the hissing sound of the engine and then moving back to the tank to look for a loose connection she died. idling she just plain out died and wouldn't restart. again we tried and couldn't hear the fuel pump pressurizing. so i dropped the tank and it's clean inside. i grabbed the trusty volt meter and measured power at the relay location and i got 12 volts. i measured in teh back where my connection is for the fuel float. 12-13vlt again. measured the wires for my fuel pump to power...NOTHING! NOTTA! ZERO! not even after i wiggled it around for a while. tomorrow im goign to hardline the pump to the battery and if it starts then it's a wiring issue. if not..then a pump issue. any other advice or things to try while i have the tank down is listened to nicely :D

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Re: tracker died on me AGAIN
« Reply #23 on: December 30, 2004, 03:33:45 PM »
be care full bypassing that stuff, there are safer ways of testing things, you should have a fuse just for the fuel pump,mine has one under the hood I think there are like four large fueses together with a plastic cover over them, start there, next the relays are interchangeable you have two side by side under the dash by the ecm if I remember right by the left speaker, also the ecm has the timming circut for the relay so you have to be cranking the engine to do a relay test,ect.
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Re: tracker died on me AGAIN
« Reply #24 on: December 30, 2004, 04:54:39 PM »
if i were you i would test the pump just hold the wires to the batt. if it works you have relay problems, if nothign happens you need a new pump

my lug nuts require more torque then my engine makes ;)

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Re: tracker died on me AGAIN
« Reply #25 on: December 31, 2004, 05:17:34 AM »
I beleive the pump only runs intermittently to keep a certain pressure. Once that pressure is reached, the pump shuts off. The Fuel Pressure Regulator or even the ECM might have control to shut off the pump when the right pressure is reached... Hard wiring the fuel pump might cause an overpressure problem...
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Re: tracker died on me AGAIN
« Reply #26 on: December 31, 2004, 05:19:28 AM »
well hardwirie it just to tet to see if the pump works.

my lug nuts require more torque then my engine makes ;)

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Re: tracker died on me AGAIN
« Reply #27 on: December 31, 2004, 05:31:01 AM »
The fuel pump stays running,(or should)if your bent on by passing the ecm control of the relay, just pull the cover off of the relay and press down on the spring loaded contacs with the ign. on.
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Re: tracker died on me AGAIN
« Reply #28 on: December 31, 2004, 05:45:55 AM »
tested the pump today and it whirred like it should..ordered the relay it should be hear next week soemtime

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Re: tracker died on me AGAIN
« Reply #29 on: December 31, 2004, 10:17:17 AM »
This kinda sounds like what happened to my sister. I wonder if it couldnt be the ecm. :-/

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