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Has any one any thoughts on rock sliders?

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Offline TN_Tracker

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Re: Has any one any thoughts on rock sliders?
« Reply #15 on: November 28, 2004, 09:39:24 AM »
I joined, nice forum and your rocksliders look good. :)

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Re: Has any one any thoughts on rock sliders?
« Reply #16 on: November 28, 2004, 06:23:51 PM »
I started to design some bolt on ones on Saturday but then after look at it again I  decided that I'm going with weld on's as I think that more bolts hanging down off the chassis is just some thing else to hang  up on (if you use  the chassis for a slider like me  ;D).

Mine are going to be 130x95x6 mm plate for the chassis mounting plate with 75x50x3mm RHS for every thing else. The front mount will be welded just behind the body mount under the A pillar and the  rear just in front of where the rear control arm mounts are.

Heres a few pics of the profile,





I'll probably tuck them 25mm back under as I think they're sticking out a little much  ???

If they flex to much I'll put some up rights to the floor to help, I  hope to finish one tomorrow after work as I ran out of RHS tonight  ::)

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Re: Has any one any thoughts on rock sliders?
« Reply #17 on: November 29, 2004, 01:17:50 AM »
Some gussets at the mount plate would be a good thing too.

Have you thought about rotating the outside slider to extend vertically up to sorta "wrap" the rocker?

Something like ...


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Re: Has any one any thoughts on rock sliders?
« Reply #18 on: November 29, 2004, 02:48:18 AM »
I like the weld on the frame rocker ideia, Great for a clean bodied Track / Kic.   I'd keep an eye on the frame as the rocker guard welded on the arm to the frame might try to act like a leaver possiably bending and distorting the frame if it moves too much.  I would consider placing the square tube directly under the rocker so that if it did move (Bend the frame rail wall) once it hit the rocker it would stop.  :-X  

    Just a thought, BUT  Your mounting plates are well made and should distribute the load enough across the frame where it isn't an issue.
   

My frame and frame side body mounts are dented from sliding on rocks.  I am now thinking of a (Boat side / Buggy style) skid that wraps around to the rockers.  (Cutting board / street sign /  ???  somthing small thin & Light weight)

Pics before rocker guards, Lots O Rust & dents.  Missing a few trim pieces too.

« Last Edit: November 29, 2004, 02:53:35 AM by whitfield »
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Re: Has any one any thoughts on rock sliders?
« Reply #19 on: November 29, 2004, 03:03:13 AM »
Mud,  Get a soft face hammer, like a dead blow
or a heavy rubber mallet and roll the sheet metal
seam on the bottom of the rocker sill, it will give
you a little more clearance, you might even work
the bottom of the sill to a little more flat shape
with the hammer and tuck those sliders right
next to the body.

I like the 75mm square tubing, I think that is a
little more robust for rock pounding, I would
change the angle on the square tubing a little,
so that the tubing is close to the bottom of the
frame, and higher than the sill on that end, then
use some angle to drop down to just below the  
sill and out, then some more square or round tubing
for outside sill protection, this way you will gain
almost 100 mm more clearance, and then you could
add (bolt on) side skid plates to protect the body
mounts and rear track arm mounts.  Now you are
just a tick away from a full belly pan   ;D

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Re: Has any one any thoughts on rock sliders?
« Reply #20 on: November 29, 2004, 03:27:25 AM »

That is how mine are done, but pulled back where 1" is under the body and I placed mine as close to the body as possible (even folded the 1/2" body lip under to fit it against the rocker). Mine have not caused any frame damage and have been beaten for many years.
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Re: Has any one any thoughts on rock sliders?
« Reply #21 on: November 29, 2004, 04:06:44 AM »
Here is a quick pic of what I was saying

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Re: Has any one any thoughts on rock sliders?
« Reply #22 on: November 29, 2004, 04:31:38 AM »
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I'd keep an eye on the frame as the rocker guard welded on the arm to the frame might try to act like a leaver possiably bending and distorting the frame if it moves too much.


Its surprising how much the frame will flex with the leverage. If you've seen pictures of MarkyB's roll cage then you will see the lengths that the guy who built it (Jon Gilbert) had to go to to stop the cage flapping about just from frame flex. If you can position the mountings near to the crossmembers then it will lessen the effect
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Re: Has any one any thoughts on rock sliders?
« Reply #23 on: November 29, 2004, 07:22:35 AM »
i had my mounts right up against the outriggers and bolted them through the riggers aswell as welding to the chassis.
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Re: Has any one any thoughts on rock sliders?
« Reply #24 on: November 29, 2004, 07:25:31 AM »
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Here is a quick pic of what I was saying




Hey that looks like the one's I made.  And that's just what I did.  I folded over the rocker lip.  Welded it to the frame and then let it rest on the body.  Well I RTVed it to the body so that it wouldn't rattle but would still have a little give.









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mudfkr

Re: Has any one any thoughts on rock sliders?
« Reply #25 on: November 29, 2004, 06:54:43 PM »
Some good advise coming thru  ;D,

I've flattened out the seams and raised the mounts up to near sitting on the sills,tucked the slider back under slightly but kept it sitting the same way (on the flat side as opposed to Snofalls idea) only as I want to be able to weld pipe work to it if necessary and I will gusset the the frame mount point too.

Once I have them mounted I'll take some pix for ya's

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mudfkr

Re: Has any one any thoughts on rock sliders?
« Reply #26 on: December 04, 2004, 06:50:14 AM »
Due to high winds most of the week and then today it's raining I haven't managed to weld them on yet but heres the finished design.



I tweaked the ends out a bit to make it easier to attach any tube work to later on.


Also left them just short of the gaurd ends incase of trimming needed for bigger tires, It looks sick with 30"s now with the Calmini 3"  installed  ::)

You can see from the 2nd pic how squashed my sills were before and thats after I put a length of 2x2" box section under the chassis with bit of chain off it and vise grips connecting it to the sill and pulled them in to shape again   ???



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mudfkr

Re: Has any one any thoughts on rock sliders?
« Reply #27 on: December 05, 2004, 06:56:48 PM »
The wind died off enough tonight to get the MIG out side so there on at last !!


Less than 5mm flex while up on the Hi Lift but I think I'll still look at bracing them a little.

Front mount

Rear mount.

Probably just tie them off to the front body mount and rear control arm mount and that should do it.  ;D

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Re: Has any one any thoughts on rock sliders?
« Reply #28 on: December 06, 2004, 02:46:08 AM »
Nice looking welds !!

I wish I had got the 220V mig now,
the 110V just doesn't quite have the
amps that I like to weld with, I use it
at the highest setting most of the time.

I guess since you are down under this
wasn't a choice for you, since your regular
voltage is 220  Stupid 110-115-120  all
depends where you are if you get one or
the others.  

Good Work Mud

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Re: Has any one any thoughts on rock sliders?
« Reply #29 on: December 06, 2004, 01:38:56 PM »
Good looking welds.
One day I'll have a welder ;D
And then I will weld the nite away  ;)
BTW: nice Rocksliders ;D
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